of condoning tyrannical governments.

I s it narcissism that compels them to seek their reflection

in the regimented structures of fascist regimes?

There was an interesting connection

between the rise of fascism in Europe

and the consciousness of politically radical people

about corporate power.

Because there was are cognition

that fascism rose in Europe

with the help of enormous corporations.

Mussolini was greatly admired all across the spectrum

business loved him investment shot up.

Incidentally when Hitler came in

in Germany the same thing happened there

investment shot up in Germany.

He had the work force under control.

He was getting rid of dangerous left wing elements.

Investment opportunities were improving.

There was no problems.

These are wonderful countries.

I think one of the greatest untold stories

of the twentieth century

is the collusion between corporations

especially in America and Nazi Germany.

First in terms of how the corporations from America

helped to essentially rebuild Germany

and support the early Nazi regime.

And then when the war broke out

figured out a way to keep everything going.

So General Motors was able to keep Opal going

Ford was able to keep their thing going

and companies like Coca Cola they couldn't keep

the Coca Cola going

so what they did was they invented Fanta Orange

for the Germans

and that show Coke was able to keep

their profits coming in

to Coca Cola.

So when you drink Fanta Orange

that's the Nazi drink

that was created so that Coke could continue making money

while millions of people died.

When Hitler came to power in 1933

his goal was to dismantle

and destroy the Jewish community.

This was an enterprise so vast

that it required the resources of a computer.

But in 1933 there was no computer

What there was

was the IBM punch card system

which controlled and stored information

based upon the holes that were punched

in various rows and columns.

Naturally there was no off the shelf software

as there is today.

Each applicant was custom designed and an engineer

had to personally configure it.

Millions of people of all religions nationalities

and characteristics went through

the concentration camp system.

That's an extraordinary traffic management program

that required an IBM system

in every railroad direction

and an IBM system in every concentration camp.

Now this is a typical prisoner card.

There are little boxes

where all the information is to be punched in.

We compare this information to the code sheet

for concentration camps.

And here you see Auschwitz is one

Buchenwald is two

and Dachau is three.

Now what kinds of prisoners were they?

They could be a Jehovah's witness for two

a homosexual for three a communist for six

or a Jew for eight.

Now what was their stats?

One was released two was transferred

four was executed

five was suicide

and six. Code six

Sonderbahandlung

special treatment

meant the gas chamber or sometimes a bullet.

They would punch that number in

the material was tabulated

and the machines were set.

And of course the punch cards by the millions

had to be printed.

And they were printed exclusively by IBM

and the profits were recovered just after the war

I really do believe that particular accusation

has been fairly discredited as a serious accusation.

They used equipment

but how they got it

how much co operation they got

and any kind of collusion

trying to connect dots that are not connected

I think that's the part that is discredited.

Generally you sell computers

and they are used in a variety of ways

and you always hope they are

using the more positive ways possible.

If you ever found out they're used in ways

that are not positive

then you would hope you would stop supporting that

but you know do you always know?

Can you always tell?

Can you always find out?

IBM would of course say

they had no control over its German subsidiaries.

But here on October 9th 1941

a letter is being written directly

to Thomas J. Watson with all sorts of detail

of the activity of the German subsidiary

none of these machines were sold

they were all leased by IBM.

They had to be serviced on site once a month

even if that was at a concentration camp.

This is a typical contract with IBM and the Third Reich.

Which was instituted in 1942.

It's not with the Dutch subsidiary

it's not with the German subsidiary.

It is with IBM corporation in New York.

You know as it happens I know that story.

I discussed it more than once with old Mr. Watson

and I was around at the time.

I'm not saying that Watson didn't know

that the German government used punch cards.

He probably did know

after all he had very few customers.

Watson didn't want to do it.

It was not because he thought it was immoral or not

but because Watson

with a very keen sense of public relations

thought it was risky.

It should not surprise us that corporate allegiance

to profits will trump their allegiance to any flag.

A recent U. S. Treasury Department report

revealed in one week alone

57 U. S. corporations were fined

for trading with official enemies of the United States

including terrorists tyrants and despotic regimes.