There's another group of people who are equally important, and that's the fans showing how during this period and whilst these decisions are being taken, how do we take care of the fans?

How how are fans represented?

How are their concerns addressed on?

How are they made to be part off this?

We keep saying it.

Unprecedented process.

I think this is difficult.

Age Club is gonna look at how does engage itself with its own fund.

This?

I mean, what can you you know, Everybody's clamoring for this information.

We talked about periods of time to reflect and cool heads on.

That's what we're doing at the moment.

That's hold driven by this clamor, for when are we going to be able to go back and watch our team play again?

Cause that's what people want.

So clubs are going to have to work out.

How do you continue to engage and keep that from that fam based Engage, remembering that you can't get them all together for a big meeting.

Now you can't do all the things that you would do.

No Mark doing the fans far way fall under funds wanting to know what we can't do that anymore.

So So it looks about social media is going to have to be doing that were on.

That, of course, will only then get a certain certain certain certain demographic of from best.

You know, the other families that just don't go anywhere near social media.

So it is a really is a real challenge.

And actually, you know, the sky and keeping these debates going and keeping the interest in football actually helps bridge that gap during this pick.

During this period of time, we have to keep people engaged in something that's not actually they're happening for you.

I mean, joking aside, football has a the place in the hearts and minds off millions tens of millions of people.

And it's important that we address those concerns on how they feel that they are still very, very much a voice that must be listen to during this process.

On DDE, I can't think the right brother that they're not getting their fix because football, but normally it provides relief as well as anguish and pain.

Depending on the results, it provides a great source of joy.

It's a social event as well.

That has been taken away from millions of people's lives right now.

So how do we help them in the House?

Of course they aren't in all this is that this summer's European Championship was meant to be a summer of travel.

It was meant to be a tournament of travel for supporters to be able to see different cultures, different environments around the sporting community.

Interesting point there.

Jeff is that if you look at all the colds that you, if executives have tomorrow, it's old.

With the administrators, it's all with clubs.

It's all with the league's and against.

The question to Sean is when you were on the board of the European League representing 30 plus leagues in European football, how much were the funds?

Front and center?

Have you been really honest?

Are you just looking at it from a league perspective on the fans?

Well, the least could deal with the lead.

The league, the league's Ultimately, you know, Money's.

The competition about the club's final leagues don't have fans.

It's the clubs that have the families on.

That's where that's where that's.

That's where these links sometime is misunderstood because if in league stuns in the middle of the relationship between a club and its fans, then that potentially creates all the rest of these old right, and that's in normal circumstances.

But there is a relationship because there were suggestions in some quarters of games being closed, behind games being played behind closed doors.

So then the league would have had a direct relationship with the fans, Absolutely.

And I was in those conversations going about How could you stream games so fans could.

Still, France could still see them.

But what was the purpose of playing games behind closed doors?

He was usually punishment for clubs rather than rather than another measure.

And ultimately, the commercial value for clubs is by having fans inside that ground.

So playing games could only have ever bean being closed off a way of getting to the end of the season.

So if we have Bean three games away from the end end of the season, then that probably that conversation would probably have had more meaning.

Being 10 games away in some respect or 12 Sure on the argument there is if it was only three games from the end of the season know everything would have been settled.

So it's argue those games have even more important that the fans wanted to say.

But there wasn't as many, and it didn't go on as long relevant What there's again to saw you in the title.

It was the game that saw you say for relegation.

Absolutely.

I mean, I can't think of anything worse than going and watching your team all year and not being able to see the one game that really, really matters.

But they were the sort of decisions that people were having to make inside that sphere.

When everything was spinning, it warns, and we were trying to find the right answer.

Now we've got to the position where we're not playing.

That should never, ever be considered again.

I was gonna say, Is it runs Gut feel that That's a nonstarter Now it was mooted at some point.

But is that just not gonna happen?

Do you think in my mind no more?

So because there's everything we've spoken about?

No, no chance of building close doors.

What be you have fans congregate outside?

There's actually only about the P S G game, so thousands of fans congregate.

You defeat the object you need.

The service is there the police.

Everything is defeated by this.

But understand fully.

Is the fans coming through the gate spending the money, which keeps the club's going?

None of it's happening.

Why we do with it.

Only played behind closed doors once for Lester against Burton Albion because the crowd trouble in the first game was the F A Cup.

Neil Warnock, Bert now being we played at Highfield Road Common.

Choose Old Ground, and it was just like playing for the reserves.

It was just spooky looking to those in the game.

They also the same thing.

It would be a tick box exercise.

The only reason it would be done would be to take the box that says we've fulfilled the fixtures, have a happier Jeff said.

You got Liverpool for example, Pounds wanna be there.

We were there the night he won the title.

30 All of these various examples.

We have to make sure it's for the good of the game and we talk about precedents of playing behind closed doors.

You know, I remember a decision we did take when I was at the league was when Bolton couldn't fulfill the last fixture against Brentford.

One of the options was he could have played it behind closed doors just to tick that box and said, No, that's not what this is.

All that's not what this is about.

So we actually made that positivity.

So it is.

It was a case of playing behind closed doors.

Just get you to the end of a friend of a friend of a process.