Cast Episode 31 You listening to Ayotte's cast the podcast to put you in touch with successful isles candidates from around the world listening land as they explain how the achieved band 78 Andi, Even nine.

Now here's your host, Ryan.

Hello and welcome to Isles cast today I'm speaking with Mattawa and Isles candidate from India.

That's he's currently living in Ethiopia in the city of D'Leh.

Uh, Mattawa has scored a couple of very tremendous marks on the examination.

He had an overall band of eight with individual scores of 8.5 in listening and reading a band eight and writing and a band 7.5 in speaking.

And he's been kind enough to share a few minutes with us today.

Tell us about how he achieved these amazing scores.

So hello, Matter what?

Welcome to Kyle's cast.

Thank you very much, Ryan.

Thank you for the flattering introduction.

Anyway, I wantto thank you, Ryan, for giving me this opportunity to express my opinions.

First of all, um, let me introduce myself myself.

I am, uh I was born in India on then I traveled out on the world for studies, and, um on work on currently working in the law as a professor, I'm teaching.

I'm teaching me generating subjects.

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So I started.

Great.

Tremendous.

And so I suppose all of those subjects are taught in English.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Great.

And now, just so we can provide everybody with it with a bit of idea of an idea of who you are.

So you, uh, you were studying in the US?

You said that you spent?

Uh, was it several years in Belgium is?

Well, I spent about a husband I would 80 years in in us, mostly studying and doing my research.

After that, I got a job in Belgium.

So where I worked for two and half years.

Since then, I have been working here for the last three years as an associate professor in mechanical engineering.

So now you have a next ended a relationship with the English language.

It sounds like you've been living, working, studying in ah, in speaking countries in other European countries.

Let's talk a bit about your relationship with the aisles.

When did you first decide you were going to take the aisles and, uh and you know, when did the whole process of your preparation for the outs begin.

That was almost two years ago, when this was during my first year here in Villa I I wanted to improve my standard off living, so I wanted to emigrate to Australia at the time.

A time are, Celia seem to be the only option.

We're, um, where the immigration procedure takes place primarily based on the score.

Choose scores on off your rails.

So I else was not only mandatory, I realize that.

Getting good score.

Niles like band seven on bad date.

It will boost you are chances off going toe successfully emigrate to Australia.

So from that for that purpose, I I focused quite quite a lot on on, you know, I was I was not good, but listening to start with.

So that's where I started focusing that it helped me in several different directions.

I would say.

First of all, let me start with how I started preparing.

Okay.

Um, well, I was I am all this passionate about learning new things.

Like, I want to learn about the unwanted man, but I want to learn about the health, Any anything that is related to science arranging from astronomy.

You know, anything talking about new genetic research.

So all these things they come naturally.

I find them naturally interesting.

So I find these documentaries on top documentaries dot com.

There's a website so you can go there and get this documentaries.

They are from BBC on and just the venture.

So are these video documentaries?

Yes, the video documentaries on, uh, now they are very helpful.

I mean, whatever is your interest, it doesn't matter.

You will be able to find a documentary off your interest on theat accent that accents in those videos are quite similar to access that you see that you hear tires examination.

In fact, sometimes I feel like the embassy people.

Oh, okay.

Talk.

Yeah.

So I would say, Yeah, I would say those are the best ways in which.

I mean, I have employed those ways on They weren't quite well for me when the second aspect is that I would recommend people going for the Ted talks.

Yes, of course.

Yeah, yeah, I Yeah.

Again, you can.

You can choose your general on.

You can choose your choice.

Like if your interest in politics signs are astronomy, you can choose your choice and then they categorize based on your interests, and then you will be able to listen to them.

But what I recommend for the students who are taking the examination is to have a broad range off topics.

Even if you're interested only in hell, I wouldn't say that.

You focus only on help you maybe How false?

The documented that you watch.

Maybe should be off off.

You're unimpressed by.

Just watch for a little bit now only.

Sorry, sir.

I don't want to drop.

But when you were watching these thes documentaries are you are you being active and taking notes and and, you know, looking up new vocabulary and freezes that you come across?

Yeah, absolutely.

See, I I would say I have never really come across a really difficult word that I need to look up in the dictionary.

Even if they use a little bit complex world, I am sure I will be able to make it up.

But even if you're a beginner, if you are not at the level off, um, level off band so no band aid.

I would say that you should be able to follow the lecture on you should be able to take notes on.

The most important part, I would say, is that when when you are actually listening, you will be able to pick up the caracal ISMs.

Some people who are from from non native speakers I'm else is designed for only to speak it obviously.

So colloquialisms are not built in tow.

Many people so cavalry on the way you can build this up into your vocabulary is by eyes.

By listening to these videos, Ted talks on BBC documentary actually take notes off those collateral ISMs.

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Yeah, on then, bye bye.

Incorporating them into your work vocabulary You So you should be able to do that predominantly in your speaking part.

You should also be able to use it.

I part off it in your writing on I would say I help you.

I have listened to this amazing 11 one tech talk that had quite an influence on me.

It's a camera Robinson.

He has users such a complex vocabulary in his, uh, his talk that that I have used like, almost five off the words in my health examination, For example, he said, um we have to be central, our preconceived notions about education on.

We have to embrace a new paradigm where Children become become active participants on.

In fact, they lead the classroom.

Okay, and and just okay.

So what was the topic?

The hiss of his talk, though Hey, Start was about that education is ruining the Children.

Okay, so he's he's My argument was, the current system of education is not only bad, it cannot be.

It cannot be improved because it's it's the lad of this leaning against a look against the wrong wall way have changed the whole pattern off education on.

He uses several different words in the Ted talk on.

I would say that I was able to use those words.

I mean in those context in my examination.

OK, that's so that's tremendously So you were actively taking phrases that were used in that yet, And these Ted talks when you're applying them to your own.

Speaking Absolutely.

Yes.

So you know, you've talked about you watch the ted talks.

You gave us that great website, which I've written down here talk documentaries dot com.

So maybe some people that listen, go and check that out, and I should also highlight that you pointed out the very important topic of making sure that you are versed in several of the different topics that could appear on the examination.

Not just a handful that that that you like that you think are interesting.

So it's it's it's a bit of you gonna push yourself to to maybe get into your comfort zone, listen to a few topics, uh, that that you're not so familiar with.

Note the vocabulary is not the colloquialisms and try to apply these to your own language in Chapter four in Section four.

Most off the topic topics are based on science.

If you if you look at section for most of the topics, are off economic interest, where somebody use a lecture.

So most of these lectures are based on science.

Like whales.

Our ships are astronomy, so whatever topic it is, most of them are related to science.

So I would say if you are interested, if you are, if you're taking it else, examination practice examinations on a regular basis on you're struggling with section for Were you need to take notes continuously for from question number 31 to 40 right?

If it's that is the area in which you're having trouble, I think then the attack dogs on the documentaries will be off the most benefit to you.

It's a good point also.

Yeah, I mean as well.

And this just an obvious thing is that they're both delivered his monologues.

Yes, they're Yeah, they're delivered.

Has more locks on.

The cavalry is the same.

The level of vocabulary is the same on the accent.

I would say, as I told you, sometimes it feels like the same person.

So the accents are exactly the British accent on dhe.

You will be.

You'll be amazed at.

Sometimes you will be able to guess.

I mean, I have been listening to a documentary.

I mean, in my in my examination that I've taken like a week ago, there was something called hedonic treadmill, the the all.

The speaker was talking about how people are being unhappy in spite off making a lot of money.

So I have actually exactly listen to this kind off talk before.

Yeah, So it's almost like when I looked at the section for I see like Okay, I know this topic so that then I'm listening to that.

So I know I know that I know a little off your point off $1 that is going to talk about it helps a lot if your family era.

If your family with the topic on the talks are on a great way in which you can get family, get familiarized yourself with different range of politics.

Yeah, that's very yet it's a very wouldn't say that you're sharing here a very, very good way to prepare for a section for I will just put out one thing s O people.

Now you're advising people to do more listening into to pick up the language.

That's tremendous.

Uh, at what point do you think they should?

They should, um, focus their attention upon listings that are coupled with questions similar to those seen in the aisles.

I would say for the last one month you can You should completely focusing gauge a lot of practice tests on make sure that you hit your mark.

Like if you're shooting for band seven, make sure that you get actually started six card.

So it depends on your It depends on how much on how quickly you can learn.

So I would say it depends on you are already existing English capabilities on you're able, Andi, are how quickly you come on your ability to learn fast on your You are willing, misty and missed a lot of time on I would say that just, um, being wanted English.

I would say that I talk to people who speak in English with your room doctor talking English with your friends on Doc.

Make friends who speak only English with you.

I don't hang around just with your local people where you communicate with your you'll be forced to communicate in your local language on If you're talking in English with your local friend, obviously it is kind of frowned upon.

People actually don't like it.

They feel like you're showing attitude.

So I think better.

I mean, for example, I have a lot of trouble speaking in English with my with my Indian friends, because I'm speaking in in English in India.

The culture here is that you speaking in English only when you are angry with them only, and you are trying to force something so so the culture doesn't permit lot off people to communicate in English with another person who's capable of speaking English.

So most of the time you you should actually look for people with whom you can communicate only in English on make friends with them for the last two months before you take the Iast examination.

The best thing is to find another person who is also taking the examination with you.

That way you will be able to communicate.

You will be able to conduct speaking touched with each other.

You will be able to bounce vocabulary off each other on you will be able to be well prepared.

And you should as as a as you, as you already mentioned in majority off your videos.

I want to reinforce that speaking at least fun for an hour every day before you take their examination.

I mean, for the last one month, you should be able to actually speak.

Been placed for a couple of minutes on it.

Given topic.

Very good advice.

Yeah, Now I want to get your opinion on something everybody says to get a speaking partner and to work with this speaking partner, and you're pointing out that you can review the capital and these sorts of things.

What sort of exercises?

Like exam.

Exam?

Specific exercises.

Could students run through to help them prepare for the exam?

First of all, I would say, um, improve your vocabulary on make sure they're you're speaking the light tanks most of the time.