Now, to do that, we've obviously had to try and lay down some criteria.

Is this being Monday Night Football?

We want to try and make It is stacked based as possible.

So first of all, before we have a look at the contenders that we've chosen, we've gone for a three year period for these sides.

Explain three season period.

Explain why that is important.

You think?

I think I don't think you could be a great side just based upon one seasons achievements.

I think you've got off some longevity success and achieve over appeared in time.

I think three years is a fair period, a team staying together, growing old together, man manages changing.

I think it's a fair period of sort of longevity that you would say excepting managers, particularly modern era staying jobs for three years time.

I think it feels about right.

I know it was different many, many years ago.

I think the reason for doing this is the ultimate.

There's always that debate about the greatest ever team and that you'll always be subjective and what we're doing here tonight.

It's subjective.

But what we have heard in the last five years, when teams have won the Premier League is gonna dominate for years.

This could be the greatest team of all time.

This is the greatest achievement of all time.

The Invincibles is this trouble teams that the Pep Guardiola 100 points team Is this you always in these opinions, I think.

But just thinking about potentially looking at, you know what is the greatest of all time over a three year period?

What he's saying is potentially Liverpool cause when it's traveled this season, Man says Okay, the league's number if they want the cup of the weekend, even the order peon captive in the FAA Corp.

They have one Santa like eight times in the last nine domestic talk that that's unbelievable as well.

So I do think it's fair.

Under usually use three years all souls, but these thieves teams in the three year period while the two teams are seeing right now, it is a fait paid and social case of crocs.

Are these teams to the actual greater the past?

So we've had to select 12 teams.

This is not including the Liverpool and Manchester City of of Now we'll get to that a little bit later on Khanna.

Logically, we start with the great Spurs side of the early sixties and we've actually had to set our criteria because of the point system that we've we've implemented here.

Not considering sides before.

European competition to the great press inside of the 19th century, the arsenal side, her Chapman of the 19 thirties.

We're talking really about 19 fifties onwards.

We missing any anyone out of our 12 do you think?

I mean, you think of the wolves of the 19 fifties.

You know, the big team in this country.

I think there's a Chelsea team that won the champions because that's a major part of our criteria.

For it wasn't the be Chelsea team if you like.

I think the alienated teams of the early nineties you know, one that fish Premier League and sort of want to on the Bounce and Alex Figs and always look back as them is one of those real big to be three teams he had in his tangible never quite in your well, our team has been working long and hard on the criteria then and the points system that we have agreed upon had a lengthy meeting.

Let me tell you, European Cup is out in front five points for that more than anything else, Why is that fair?

It's the most difficult.

Drove it to win.

It has proven over many, many years is the pinnacle.

You'd always say that to be a great side, truly great side that you would need to win the league title.

You need to win back to back titles or two in three years, but you also need to have success in Europe.

That, I think is always something that you would solve strife or to truly judge yourself is a great team.

I think the Champions League stroke European Cup is the pinnacle of world Cook ER club competition on it deserves the most points.

I think the debate waas should it be five and should the league, Premier League or Old league 123?

We said no, I think ultimately we decided on 500.

We've agreed this points but the points that we've awarded for each success is based on our agreement.

We subjected.

You're waiting.

We're waiting them towards what we feel is the ultimate of club competition versus the next, then obviously trickling down towards league Cups and runners up.

There might be another couple of questions that people have on that.

So let's go back to it for for a league title.

Three points for any other European trophy.

Now that's more than the F A Cup.

And some might argue, Jamie, that the F A Cup was much more valuable before the premiere league came along.

But it goes back to get his point about being You're being more difficult.

The reason being is every team's in the F A Cup.

Every actually have a chance.

You know, in Europe every year that's what makes it special.

I think winning when any European trophy is special and I'll be honestly, I go back to 2001 where we won the F A Cup on the UFO Corp Now at the time, I just want to be the fake or you're actually had this thing a foreign placement in the European tour of the English.

So I just wanted the FAA call because that's what you dreamt about as a kid, the winner of Korea if you said to me, but there's one of those that you'd lose or give away.

They're fake because there's something special about your job you could, you know, domestically.

Whatever you can win you do you back within league obviously.

But they're going to your take it in their teams, different formations, managers, cultures on to go there and win the European trophy.

It's special on.

There's not a place of one you want to be in trophies within the first division or the premise because it's not easy to do just to finish that off.

You saw two points for being runner up in a European Cup as well, and one point was it for being runner up in the league.

No bonus points.

We're going unbeaten in this season as well.

We couldn't get them to agree on that, but we'll come to that a little bit later.

Now the boys don't know what the results are.

Having decided on the scoring system will now apply it to those 12 teams that you saw.

12 place is that great Leeds United Side Onda Don Revie who get nine on our scoring system to Lee titles, runners up a cz Well, I think that was a great era for leads and they were runners working so much really brilliant service.

I've never seen them play.

We hear so much about the nut on brevity.

I lost the European Cup final thinking 75 against by immunity but that in some ways that leaves him even though they weren't tails.

We just mentioned the probably remember the lawful lose and so the big games.

I think they lost a final to Liverpool and 65 days a famous one against Chelsea.

I think I think they lost was a really bad, really aggressive game, the European Cup final also.

But to be there or thereabouts, you don't throw The seventh season has set a brilliant team, hopefully see the next is the heart.

The heart thing.

I suppose with Leeds was picking that the right three years because it was a period of sustained success, wasn't it?

So let's have a look at the next on the list and actually we couldn't separate the next to in terms of the point, so joint 10th on our ranking, first of all, WAAS, Manchester United and it was so bad, Sir Matt Busby's United Gary and tell us about the legacy that this team left behind.

The legacy is huge in terms of the impact not just of that team.

Best law in childhood that define an air in Manchester but also the recovery from from, obviously the tragedy of the Munich air crash.

Some of the survivors still being around office.

Manager Sir Bobby Childhood Still a lot off academy players.

Brian Kid, 18 years of age, Bank Union.

So there's a lot of what would be the values of months united today that are attributed to that 10 year period from 58 to 68.

When I say a lot off the attributes of months, United States all the attributes of months united today, playing with the academy players, playing with excitement, you know, ultimately playing to win all the time.

That's not flare.

That element of Maverick with best in that element of academy with childhood and soft signing players for a time, was big money in Denis law.

All the things that you saw a tribute to Munch, unite living today come from that period on.

It's a special era English team as well to win the European Cup.

How significant was that?

It was significant, I think when you look back, it sort of months United's history.

But Matt Busby took months unite and took English teams into Europe at the time against the wishes off the federation, the league, the FAA, you think about now the idea of someone sort of defying, sort of.

What would be the organizational, the FAA, the league to be able to go and play in Europe?

It seems madness that he had to fight to take his team to Europe and obviously suffered the tragedy that month's United did in Munich.

In 58 cities, pioneering it was an era for Manchester United.

Western Matt Busby was the heart of a manager for the club for so long and starting what?

The journey of stop this modern months.

United isn't Alex Ferguson.

When he took over a month, United just wanted to repeat a lot of the values and principles that have been achieved previously by the club he respected.

The history history of the club wasn't overall by it.

I went on to actually better so Max achievements in terms of what he achieved.

They are joint.

Couldn't separate them with Aston Villa, another European Cup winner.

That team of the early eighties, which after the league title, then I want to win the European Supercup as well.

They still sing about them, don't they?

Well, it's still a famous Banners in the Peter would do the commentary.

Think beyond the gold, where it's Peter where?

Something like that, but early eighties team Aston Villa I think Ron Shawn ders passed away a few months ago.

We have a legend in the Midlands manager off to different clubs.

There was actually it is roller Aston Villa.

The strange thing that you just actually he moved on before they actually got the hands on the famous trophy.

It was Tony, but you came in.

But he produced that.

You think that?

I think Dennis Morse when he lifted the troll feelings, said Peter, with getting the famous girl cut the spouses.

There's something about what Aston Villa Nottingham Forest did that defies almost the point system that we've put in place because of the fact the nature of the clubs, the fact that ultimately it was unexpected for these clubs to do what they did.

I think even now we know even put, the less the team in a few years ago, that wouldn't the league that still goes down as the greatest achievement of either I've ever seen in English football.

But when we talk about greatness, you have to talk about sustained success.

But Villa Forest, the achievements of less than a few years ago, need special managed because in context of their achievements compared to the investment, maybe a view of the great lamplight Liverpool, United, Tottenham, Chelsea, Assam they had a lot more difficult.

They didn't have this off the tools and the armor to be able to work with these guys.

They need a special mention.

Isn't scientific this?

Sometimes when you're applying the side, you're really on.

We will come to nothing for us and see how far the list they are.

But next is thier earliest side on our list, and that's the Spurs side.

We mentioned the top Bill Nicholson Spurs, you know, going to spurs.

You always hear about these names.

League title to FAA Cups, European Cup Winners Cup People talk as well about the way the style of football that this top team had one winning a record 11 straight games at the start of the season and, of course, the first double winners of the 20th century.

To be honest, when I, when I first started watching football, was the 84 85 season with evident.

So obviously that's so long ago now.

But when I was a kid, I remember that team getting spoken about.

I'm sure Howard Kendall spoke about even the event manager at the time.

About if you ever wanted the team to play, sit and wait, be the double team of Tommy.

All remember vividly.

I think it is it.

Is it?

No.

One is that I got this right.

The pushing one team.

That was sort of the way it was described the football after played.

And I think it wasn't just the achievement.

The Troll agrees.

I think what they were, it was the actual way they played football.

I'm probably legacy went on for years where we it sometimes looks.

Airplane thing is a Tottenham player.

I maybe listen, I didn't see that team playbook.

Maybe that commentary way that team play.

I think Danny Blanchflower was maybe the captain of that team.

I think Jimmy Greaves just come after the the team won the title.

Maybe is involved.

The European stuff joined in 61 but missed the double side of it to the extreme.

Greater said.

Great Jimmy Greaves just turned 18.

Big petition to getting maybe night and maybe rightly so, but say brilliant, playable.

Seven.

Don't know too much about that team, but only what's being passed down when you listen to where Dad or so how would you know?

A lot of a lot of Spurs fans have been getting in touch with you on that on that very note.

Actually, Jamie, this one comes in.

Used to ask old people about teams and players.

When I was a kid in the Spur 61 side was always class is the best.

Doing the double, as as you point out.

Didn't happen back then, and they did it by playing a special brand of football.