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  • - Hey, welcome back, TechLead here.

  • Now, first of all,

  • I wanna say I did not really want

  • to make this video about anti-diversity

  • because I believe

  • that the intentions behind there are good.

  • However, I feel that we have gone too far

  • and I wanted to do a follow up video

  • on the manifesto video

  • that I did a few days ago about

  • how tech has become hostile

  • to certain types of people.

  • See after I posted that video,

  • I started getting some tweets from other people

  • and I did some more research into this

  • and I realized

  • that there's a lot more discrimination

  • in this field than I had thought.

  • And that's really disturbing to me.

  • And I know some people will say,

  • I'm one of the privileged people.

  • When you're privileged,

  • then equality feels like oppression.

  • No, this isn't really about me anymore.

  • This is about future generations.

  • My son, for example,

  • I would like him to get into tech as well.

  • And I'm just imagining this field

  • that can be very hostile to him

  • and other people like him as well.

  • So let me show you what I found

  • and I want you to keep an open mind about this.

  • Diversity, it's a very delicate subject to talk about.

  • It triggers a lot of people immediately

  • and I feel that if we can not even discuss

  • whether the approach is right

  • without somebody blowing up in your face,

  • then I think that's going

  • to lead us down a tenuous path.

  • And I want to preface this by saying

  • I support everybody get into tech.

  • I think that we can all learn the skill

  • but it should be a meritocracy.

  • So let's get into the first piece here.

  • So somebody sent me this screenshot

  • for an Oracle summer internship

  • that lists a bunch of eligibility requirements

  • like a GPA, computer science degree.

  • And then this says explicitly

  • that you must be African American,

  • Latino, Native American and/or a woman.

  • And that just seems pretty racist and sexist to me.

  • It excludes so many different types of people.

  • Not to mention it's also requiring you

  • to be a sophomore.

  • To me that sounds like age discrimination.

  • Now, regardless of moralities,

  • if you're to take a look

  • at the Civil rights Code Section 703 it says,

  • "It shall be unlawful employment practice

  • "for any employer to fail or refuse

  • "to hire any individual

  • "because of such individuals race, color,

  • "religion, sex or national origin".

  • So here's my problem with this.

  • The way I had to understood diversity programs was

  • that they would be for students

  • for underrepresented minorities

  • and they will not be in any employment capacity,

  • no internships, no full time jobs.

  • Because I believe that this is illegal by the way.

  • But if you wanna teach high school students

  • how to code,

  • if you wanna engage

  • with elementary school students

  • and get them more interested in STEM topics,

  • then that sounds perfectly good to me.

  • Just widen up that funnel.

  • But as soon as we started talking about internships,

  • internships, especially tech internships,

  • as say Facebook, Google, Oracle,

  • any of these tech companies,

  • they are so valuable.

  • Having an internship on your resume

  • is essentially a key

  • into a full time position.

  • And an opportunity like that,

  • especially if it is paid.

  • And offers you real-world work experience.

  • I don't believe that we should

  • be discriminated on that.

  • I believe it excludes too many people.

  • It's not fair.

  • It is not meritocracy,

  • and it may be illegal as well,

  • where the public and society have deemed

  • that this type of discrimination

  • on key opportunities simply should not be acceptable.

  • Now thinking in a little bit more,

  • I also noticed that we've got Facebook University

  • and Google STEP,

  • which is student training

  • in the engineering program.

  • But if you read the descriptions,

  • both of these programs,

  • they explicitly say

  • that they are internships, paid internships.

  • And so I find myself wondering,

  • well, why don't we just have internships

  • where we explicitly list certain races

  • and genders in which we'll accept

  • and which we won't accept.

  • And, I have the suspicion

  • that perhaps that these programs,

  • these diversity programs

  • are thinly veiled internships just

  • to skirt around the law of employment.

  • To me, it's kind of a loophole.

  • So when I posted about this on Twitter,

  • I got a bunch of responses,

  • but some of the responses really shocked me.

  • One of the responses was

  • from the leaders of BlackTechTwitter

  • and she said,

  • "I'm happy those are the eligibility requirements

  • "and all of you are mad about it

  • "well I don't care lol".

  • Someone else replies,

  • "Please find more of these,

  • "I would like to post them to my friends

  • "and colleagues so that they can apply".

  • And they justified this by saying that,

  • "It's illegal because up until now institutions

  • "were discriminating on gender and ethnicity

  • "and they wanted to change that".

  • So now, it's essentially reverse discrimination

  • and that was not what this movement

  • I thought was going to be about.

  • I thought it was about that firstly equality

  • and creating a better world for all of us.

  • Me and my children included,

  • not at our expense.

  • And then someone sent me this link to WomenHack

  • where they offer invite only events focused

  • on connecting top female engineers,

  • designers and product managers

  • with opportunities at diversity first companies,

  • you have to apply for an invitation

  • and you can meet a bunch of companies,

  • top tier tech companies like Facebook,

  • Oracle, Google, Lyft, Square, Asana.

  • And honestly once you allow discrimination,

  • the sword really cuts both ways.

  • I found this other internship

  • which only allows Indians,

  • H-1B visa Indians,

  • and they're only looking

  • for these types of people

  • for iOS engineering roles.

  • And so when I think about our children,

  • let's imagine someone has a white male son

  • and then they adopt a black daughter

  • and they're raising these two kids

  • at the same time in parallel,

  • these kids are not going

  • to have equal opportunities

  • and it's going to be strange.

  • The white male son won't be excluded

  • from virtually every coding curriculum,

  • bootcamp, internship, job fair training program,

  • events, conferences, parties, everything.

  • This white male son won't be excluded

  • and they may just make tech feel unwelcoming

  • and hostile to him,

  • especially when it is so unbalanced

  • in terms of the programs that were offered.

  • There's virtually no program out there

  • for any other type of person.

  • And of course there are

  • so many different types of people out

  • there in the world.

  • What about the underprivileged, poor, white and Asian males,

  • the Canadians, the Indonesians,

  • Philippines, Brazilians, Italians.

  • And if we're looking for diversity of thought

  • because we believe that diversity brings value

  • into the workplace.

  • What's to say that you can imagine some Chinese boy

  • who gets adopted into some black family,

  • he grows up with the culture

  • and he may have a better understanding

  • of the black culture

  • and what it can bring to modern tech society

  • than even say a black person who grows up

  • in just suburban white Kansas.

  • So my concern is not about

  • whether diversity is good or bad.

  • It's great, it would be great

  • to see more different types of people,

  • but it is about the approach

  • in which we are taking

  • that leaves out a lot of people,

  • not to mention in this day and age

  • where identity is so fluid,

  • you may have many women self identifying as males

  • and then they would automatically disqualify themselves

  • from such programs.

  • You may have people

  • who have only an ounce

  • of native American blood identifying themselves

  • as native American.

  • There may even be half races

  • where it's not really even clear anymore

  • and perhaps over time,

  • everybody's going to just get all mixed up anyways.

  • And I know some people will say

  • that I'm just another privileged Asian male

  • and I can't recognize that,

  • but I'm not really sure

  • what privilege you're talking about.

  • I grinded for 10 years applying

  • to Google every single year,

  • getting denied each time until I finally got in.

  • I sat in front of a computer for hours

  • by myself learning how to code

  • and then once I got into Google I hustled understanding

  • to code better than anybody else

  • until I earned the role of Technical Lead.

  • I was not just handed any of this stuff.

  • And as far as privilege goes,

  • research actually shows the opposite

  • where there's systemic bias

  • in favor of underrepresented minorities.

  • And so I think the issue we have here

  • as far as gender goes at least is

  • that the gender gap begins far before people even get

  • into these companies before they're applying to the jobs.

  • Even in high school,

  • only 27% of all students taking

  • the computer science exam were females

  • and then by the time they get to college,

  • only 18% of computer science degrees go to women.

  • Now this doesn't actually have anything

  • to do with ability.

  • According to research,

  • The Gender-Equality Paradox,

  • "Girls performed about as well

  • "or better than boys on science in most countries,

  • "and in almost all countries,

  • "girls would have been capable of college level science

  • "and math if they had enrolled in them".

  • So the researchers actually assert

  • that when women are empowered,

  • they actually go towards non-STEM degrees

  • because they feel they're even better in that

  • than computer science,

  • they claimed that,

  • "Some would say that the gender STEM gap occurs

  • "not because girls can't do science,

  • "but because they have other alternatives based

  • "on their strengths and verbal skills".

  • "In wealthy nations,

  • "they believe they have the freedom

  • "to pursue those alternatives

  • "and not worry so much that they pay less".

  • So as I see it,

  • if we really want to tackle this issue,

  • we need to be looking earlier

  • in the pipeline like at junior high

  • and high school students

  • and not so much at creating more internships,

  • creating more hiring programs

  • and tech conferences.

  • Because at that rate,

  • the graduation rate for women in computer science

  • is only 18%

  • and if you're trying to push it any higher than that,

  • then you probably do not have a meritocracy.

  • And that's not to mention,

  • I find that somewhat contradictory

  • that once women actually get into tech,

  • I've seen multiple female colleagues at Facebook and Google,

  • they cry and they have to quit in tears

  • because they plan to become a mother

  • and none that these companies offer chances for remote work.

  • These women, they wanna spend more time with their children.

  • There's just no way to do that

  • and so they find that they have

  • to give up their careers anyway

  • after all of that struggle.

  • So let's talk about some of the solutions

  • that I would recommend if we want

  • to pump these diversity numbers.

  • First of all, I would say that,

  • anything that is based on say your identity,

  • the way you are born should be excluded.

  • That's what I would like to see.

  • I would like to see this based on scale meritocracy.

  • If you're interested in boosting diversity numbers

  • because you think that diversity is a great skill to have,

  • then there should be a test for this such

  • that if you have seen Chinese Asian male

  • who is born into a black family,

  • if he can understand black culture,

  • black history better than a black person

  • then he should get the role for a diversity job

  • because he can bring more of these diversity perspectives,

  • underrepresented minority viewpoints

  • into a company and help represent them,

  • there should be a test that anybody can pass.

  • Secondly, personally, I would like

  • to see these gray zone summer internship programs

  • to remove the entire funding redirected

  • into public coding bootcamps

  • that are aimed at high school students

  • and junior high students available

  • to anybody who is willing and able

  • to code anyone who has the interest.

  • There's no need to discriminate on any sort

  • of identity politics here

  • and it's clear that we need more role models as well

  • from underrepresented and minority groups of people.

  • So I will launch a marketing campaign,

  • put the posters, YouTube videos,

  • showing all the types of different people

  • that are working in tech.

  • And then lastly I will look

  • into stronger maternity and paternity programs

  • that offer remote work,

  • part time work to help mothers

  • and fathers continue to raise their children

  • as they're continuing to do work.

  • The U.S is so far behind the other countries

  • in terms of this.

  • Other countries are offering one to two years

  • of paid leave, remote work,

  • part time work

  • and then the U.S

  • is only offering three months worth of leave.

  • It's just not enough.

  • And at this rate,

  • women who are also very interested in becoming mothers,

  • they may just abandon the tech field

  • and opt be a dentist or a doctor

  • where they have the ability to do part time work,

  • maybe hire a babysitter occasionally

  • and still be there for their children.

  • And then lastly, a bit of friendly advice.

  • If you're already in the system

  • and you believe that it is treating you unfair,

  • it's unwelcoming hostile to you.

  • (swallows)

  • I might recommend just self identifying

  • as a Native American black lesbian female,

  • and that should open up other doors for you.

  • Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.

  • So that'll do from me.

  • Hope you enjoyed the episode.

  • Let me know your thoughts on this topic.

  • If you liked the video,

  • give it a like and subscribe

  • and I'll see you next time.

  • Thanks. Bye.

- Hey, welcome back, TechLead here.

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為什麼多樣性是有毒的(作為一個前谷歌技術負責人)? (Why Diversity is toxic (as an ex-Google tech lead))

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    林宜悉 posted on 2021/01/14
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