Shekeepssayingsheneedsmoreguyhereandevensomemoreguyfriendsfurry, livingbrightwithYeah, but I'm now.
I wouldjustsay I tendtoidentifyis, um, gaylesbian?
Marriedto a woman?
Yeah.
I loveit.
Reallymatterswhenyouwantyoumarried.
No, I think I alwayssay I don't thinkitmattersthetour.
What?
Evenifin 10 yearstimeyougo?
Actually, thereis a partofmethatdoesstillquitelikemen.
Becauseaslongasthere's a partofmethatlikesme, whyshould I care?
Yeah, well, I identifyasgayslashlesbian.
It's lastmarriedto a woman, but, um, thatisyoursexual.
She's just a sexual, but, um, like I havesenttoyoulike, I stillfindmenattractive.
Um, like, itdoesn't repulsedlikeitdoeswithyou.
Oh, yeah.
Sometimes I'm tellingyouthislastnightwassometimes I liketotestwhether I'm still a littleallegedlesbian.
Justbecause I thinkit's reallyimportantthatyoushouldknowaboutwatchingTV, andshe's like, Yeah, I'm going.
What?
Oh, I wasjustimaginingkissingthosepeopleontheTVand I waslike, No, So, I, um, definitelyeast.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, let's gettoknow, darling, there's a weirdright.
So I seem, youknow, menontelevisionyouareconventionallyreallyattractiveorsomething I'm like, Imagine.
Oh, no, I can't doit.
I can't doit.
Yeah, sothen I Yeah, still.
Hello, Tilly.
Youcometojoin?
What?
Tillyisjustsleepingonmylaugh.
Butbesideshelp.
Soyeah, with a revelationmoment, theyinclude, um, yeah, I wastalkingaboutThere's onlyonethingthatreallythinkingabouthowwe'regonnaanswersomequestionsAndthemainone.
Apparently, we'venevermade a videoaboutmycomingoutstory.
Nocentury.
I haveaskedyou, Yousaidthat I waslike, Yeah, I just, um I knowthey'resoshywithyourrole.
Well, it's notthat I don't personallythinkit's notinteresting.
Umandthenmythanksthingwas, I bought a bookbySarahWateriscalledTippingtheVelvet.
She's a lesbianwriterfortotry.
Sohewritesloadsoflesbianbecausehistoricallybased, Yeah, I didn't wantmaybebythebook, likemaybe I read a reviewofitorsomething, butitmusthavesubconsciously, I thought, Well, I'm gonnalike I'm gonnareadthisbook.
Andthen I gotreallyintothecharacterlike a reallysortof I don't know, I justlike a realemotionalattachmenttoher.
Eventhoughmylifeisnothinglikeherasyoulike.
Gropinglikeanoyster, sheddinglike a storyinVictoriantimes.
Oh, sonothingroadTheywereastogetheronce a comfyand I remembercirclingroundandroundthebooksoftheElWe'rethinkingit's like I actuallyboughtitoverthere.
Notlikepeopleknow I'm gay.
If I buythisbooksetlike I justdiditupon a weeklybasis, I gointoagent d'youseethatitwasonsaleWell, thatthey'd have a fewcopiesand I gotwhoon I justinback.
So I didn't wanttolikeoutmyselftothecashierperson.
Um, I justkindofputmywholesexualitythingonhold, Um, andconcentratedonmystudies.
Andmymomonthatwhenmymomdied.
Uh, I think I datedlikesomeguyand I rememberbeingonthedatewithhim.
I mean, I dated, likewhat?
Like 34 days.
Andthen I rememberbeingonthelastdaywithhim.
I wasjust, like, staringathim.
And I justthought I amgay.
Likeitjustcametome, likesoyouclearlywhat?
Strangewatchingtheguy.
But I didn't know.
I was, like, I actuallystoppedhimhalfwayforjustsoYeah, Youknowwhat?
Thisisn't gonnaworkout.
HesaidWell, I thoughthaving a I thoughtthiswasgoingreallywell.
I waslike, ny I just I'vejustrealised I justreallydon't fancy.
And I don't think I'm gonnafancymenjustfor a whileif I justneedtolie.
And I justthinkwhen I seeyouanymore, hewaslike, Oh, okay, butinside I waslike, I'm gay.
I know, right?
And I waslike, Oh, myGod.
Okay.
Anditwasverynice, actually.
ThatreallyAndthen, um, I thinkitwasbecause, um I'm sayinglike, CarlyWell, I thinkbecausemymomhaddiedondhe, youknow, youreassessyourlife, Newpriorities I wouldhavetoconfront a lotofmyown.
Imation's on.
We'vehad a lotoffriendsaroundwithonnomatterwhatandthingslikethat.
I justthought, youknow, thetimeisnowlike, actually, I needtojustbetreatmyselfonDDE.
Um, I livemylifeandcomeupMaybecause, youknowitwasgonnahappen.
Soit's like, I'm notgonnabescared.
Anyoneofthecircleround H M V 20 timessimplytooscaredtobuy a boxtherethatmayormaynotsay I'm gay, andthen I just I findit a bitmorethan I wasactuallyreallyexcitedtotellmyfriendsandfamilyon, buttheywerejustlike, yeah.
I justwantOh, so I shouldsay, I willsaythatwhilst I wasreallyintotippingthevelvetduringmyfirstyear, secondyearofuni, I wasstillgoingoutofmyboyfriendsand I toldhimandheknew I wasobsessedwithitondhe.
I toldhimthat I like I waslike, I think I mightbeintogirls, andyoushouldbeokay.
Butthen I didn't eventhinkthatagain.
Buthe's a prettycoolguythen, Yeah, he's gothisactor, Sohe's surroundedbylove.
Thewholeargumentaboutourstraightpassingpeopleinstraightpeopleallowed a pridebecausetheymightbecosting.
Well, there's justsomanyreasonswhy I like, forinstance, howshould I explainthiscarthatthedayiftherewas a disabledprideandyousawsomeoneandtheylookedablebodied, wouldyouchuckthemoutofthePrideparade?
I thinkit's justabout a likeprideisjust a supportourselvesandeachotherandalldifferentareasofsexuality, includingstraightpeople.
Probably, youknow, tonight I don't seewhytheysaid, If I dosay, andthenthepassittherewas a holeandagree I wasgoingsomewherewiththisSothepersoncouldalsobetherewiththepartnerwhoisdisabledwiththechildortheirparentsortheirfriendOrtheycouldjustbe a randompersononthestreet.
Hewantstoshowsomelove.
Yeah, inthesamewayitpride, I lookyeah, justbecausehewantedtoshowsupportorlike, um, woman's rightsmarcheslike, I thinkit's greatwhenthere's menthere.
Definitelyitwasjustwomenmarching.
Itwouldn't havesuch a strongvoiceisthefactthatpeoplewhodon't havetofightfor a stillfightingforit.
I thinktheimpactonthisissayingwithstraightpeoplecomealongdeprivedisliketheyhelpedpassthoseregistrationsthatgotustobeabletomarry, youknow, becausethey'rethemajority, andtheyreportedtobeallowedtocometoexactlyevents.
She's like, Yes, but I thought I'd betterStillaskinglikeway D'oh!
I'm justhavingsexontheside, justincase, I meanandTriciatous.
ButitisYeah.
Andwedoalsoknowsomeonewhowasdeniedcontraception.
Nodenyingthepillbecauseitwasn't a contraceptive.
Useyes, onbutknowthisdoctorwasreallynice.
I'm gay.
I mean, yeah, hesaid I havebeen a very I say, though I didhave a carawho I didn't comeouttoo.
Soinquite a while, because I knewshewasveryCatholic.
I didn't wantThio.
I didn't have a girlfriend, soitwasn't beingdatingoranything.
Youknow, thereasonreallycomeoutonthenwhen I didso I getit.
I didn't tellhelpuntilanactualgirlfriendandthenhadtobelike, um, soyouknowthatgirlandshewaslike, Oh, right, yes.
Andshe's kindofskatedover.
Itwaslikeyou.
You're a goodfriend.
You'reright.
Andhave, like, obviously a Kara.
Um, and I don't raiseyoudoctors, like, ever, but a similarsortofrelationship, I guesswithbecause I'm thedentist.
I don't tellmypatients I'm gaybecause, um, unlessitcomesupincantation.
Butdon't go.
Meandmywife, like, I don't justdropitin, like, youknow, likelike I wouldperhapsmorecomfortablydropinif I wasmarriedto a manlike, oh, myhusbandonislandsthisweekendatthecinemaaswecan.
I justsay I didthisallweek.
I don't sayLikemywife.
I don't specifyinmysexualitybecauseof, um, thereisstillkindof a bitof a fedformypart, whichrolerichsometimes I'm a bitpainfulthat I evenhavetobeproud, but, likethat's mypatientwilllikePhiluncomfortablelikeif.
Butthenthat's matchedme.
AssumingthattheyhaveslightlyhomophobeIQfeelings.
Um, yeah, whichmostofthemprobablydates, but I don't wantThio.
Putthemin a positionwheretheyfeltuncomfortable, andthentheycan't sayit's becauseitbeyondPC, youknow, likeequally.
Butifyouwanttobecarefulthattheynoaggressivetowardsbutyou'rein a positionisquitedelicate.
Well, ifyouconsiderhowmuchharassmenttheygothroughoneday, theracesthatthat's gonnahave a bigeffectonyourmentalwellbeing, um, buthowtocombatshowtocombatthat?
I think, I think, withmentalhealthawarenessbeingwhatbigthisyear, therewas a wholeweekrecentlyintheintheUKum, ondheonthelegalizationofgaymarriageacrossmanycountries, I thinkthereismuchmoreawarenessofbothLGBT Q plussocietyingroupsandculturesonmentalhealthissues.
Yeah, Andi, astwoseparatethingsarebecoming a lotmoremainstream.
Um, Andi?
No.
Promoted S o.
I thinktherewillbe a nightofmeasures.
I triedtoseemoreinthemedia, moreofanintersectionbetweenGarrettandtousemysergeiandempties.
Sowhen I said I didn't, I justfeltreallycountryto, umifallofthecastofyoungwordstheoriginallikecastjustbelowthemYeah, I justloveallofthembecausetheyoverAndJennyYes, theyalltheirhope.
Oneofthemisthattheyrepresent, I think, a facetofeachpartofsomeone's humanlikepsyche, likeEsso.
They'relikethey'reallsothey'realsoquitelike I won't gointoanindepthnowtosee a worldrightnow, but I thinkeventhecreatorAileenshakingwhenshesaythattheyare a representationofthepower.
Yeah, exactlylikebecauseonepersonisn't todayandyou'reon a womanisn't justYou'reeithergayoryou'restraightawayyourfeministoryou'llknowyouknowthere's a yourmanythingson.