It's your camera fit on that mountain.

Yeah, it does.

Is damn.

How do you adjust the starting thing?

I don't know.

Just just pull that lever, that one, like I showed you.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That works.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Let's get this stuff out of here, man.

You gotta start.

You're saying this is the lock picking lawyer and I have a very special guest today for the first of what I hope will be a very enjoyable Siri's with me today is Bosnian Bill of the infamous Loch Lab.

How you doing today, Bill?

I am doing great.

Especially after the pre intro activities.

Priya, I'm feeling good.

Yeah, very, very good.

I'm very relaxed.

You know what this video is gonna look like?

But everything's moving right now.

I can tell you that.

What?

They're not supposed to bay.

Uh, So what are we talking about today?

Why don't you lead us into this?

Well, I think you can see right here.

We have a big mess of stuff, and I think you guys can pretty usually see that we're gonna be talking about disc detainer picked today, but maybe not quite in the way you think, Harry, I think you probably did one or two videos on these nasty little things.

You're these Chinese picks.

They're by far the most common.

Unfortunately, they really don't work and all but a couple hands, a couple of locks.

And, uh, you know, we both have videos on on our own little ways of modifying these a little bit more useful.

There are.

There are a lot of little tweaks.

You conduce mean Both of us have done this fork thing.

Both of us have struggled to make these tips fit into some of the newer technology key ways.

Lock makers air, definitely responding to the threat and one of the threat things that they've changes, of course, The length of what you want to call that thing right there.

Depth of the tension in this.

Let's call it a no and knows where I work.

Uh, anyway, some of them have learned that in order to defeat this type of pick, all they've got to do is set their locks a little bit deeper inside of the lock right away makes these things obsolete.

Now, I've definitely encountered that and I've tried to to make improvise tips that were a little bit deeper, but frankly, I'm not very good at it.

I'm with you.

I want my leave.

This one's a little bit overkill, but I did the same kind of thing, trying to find a way to squeeze a little bit further down there.

But you know, when you do that, your pick is off center, for example, it's off center.

You find yourself picking two or three disks at a time.

Other thing I found is that when you make your problems, when you modify these things to extend the problems, they get weak and they break very easily.

They dio That's about version 12 right there.

They just given up.

The reason I don't use this one anymore is because those prongs been too much.

This is made out of three or four stainless, and it's just not strong enough.

Yeah, so you know there are custom pick makers out there that make pick for specific locks short.

This is one of them.

This is one that I have was made by by Jacopo and in Sweden.

I'm sorry in Finland Finland.

Janko Fogger Linda.

He's famous for my very 1st 1 was from Jaca.

What looked nothing like that, though.

Sure, it was a precision pick.

It was very nice and designed specifically for the granite.

Here's the early version.

And it was a fantastic pig.

Unfortunately, I loaned that to somebody, and I can't remember who I loaded too.

I never got it back happen.

So, you know, we've got to do something to overcome these shortcomings and the loss of picks, I guess.

So What I thought we would do is talk about designing a new one.

And then in this series of videos, maybe we'd actually try to build one, uh, under for you that meets our own specs, things that we would like to see.

So what kind of things would you like to see in a homemade pick?

Well, there's a few things that strike me right off the bat.

The first, of course, is is putting a little bit a little bit more length on that tension.

He knows, and yeah, there's there's some elements from almost everything you see here that we can incorporate right here.

We have some depth markings.

Graduations would be very helpful.

The first pick, the Jacob pick that I had had those.

I really liked him.

They're very good.

So we could measure.

Ah, couple of locks to get the the average distance between demand.

The disks okay.

Tips would be another.

Another nice way that the actual picking tip itself.

Um, you can see this one from from Janko has a very, very thin tip on.

And that's for sliding between the desks as opposed to one of these simple like that.

Sure at yours or these where you're always going to be hitting two or three disks at a time.

So it becomes a function of luck.

You can modify these tips, but these are only low quality Silver Stoddard.

And what I found that the reason we seem so many in this pile I've got 10 or 12 Maura, Homa, Byman, bulk and a weak point to me at least, are those tips because when I start filing them, they generally will fall apart.

The silverware failed, yet I've had that exact issue.

This is the one I've had that's lasted the longest and and I had to brace.

This went on.

I put a really high temperature silver cider on there, and I probably spent over an hour trying to get that to take correctly.

Okay, So improved tips.

Definitely.

That's at the top of our list.

Absolutely.

What else would you like to see?

Well, I'd also like the thing did not be so darn ugly.

The orderly RG That's I'm you know, I'm not.

Don't generally bother by aesthetics, but this bothers me.

I mean, that's really when you look at these, they look so slapped together out of leftover parts, a couple of screws sticking out there for a look that looks so chances.

Exactly.

It looks like they custom made one or two parts and then took a bunch of stuff out of the parts.

Been no matter what it looked like and slapped it together.

And they're selling thousands of them because that's all there is.

I do like the neural ing.

So we need to make sure you got neural ing on anything we design on Shorten.

That is very a lot of times you really put a lot of torque on there.

I agree, but I think the most important thing would be this tip here than thing that we decided.

We're gonna call the nose.

Sure.

All of these are the same.

I mean what we've modified him.

But there's only so much that you can take off of here before this peace fails.

It's hollow that at that point, so if you file further that things fall apart, we need to find some way to get us a longer knows.

So let's and also also perhaps even a replaceable notes.

Irreplaceable would be fantastic, because some of these locks take Geritol wire really long and shorter.

Tips are easier to use, and I think, and they help keep it aligned.

But on those deeper set locks, you really need a longer knows, so that when you attention it, you're not tensioning too far away from the body you want to be.

Tension is close to the body as you can to keep it perfectly centered.

Absolutely.

Otherwise it gets all canted, So a long nose.

We want a changeable back to a short nose.

If we come up with a Chinese, we can easily popping in a short nose and him again will be very flushed to the face of the lock.

Those are all things you want.

I mean, we're doing this on the fly you want to go and try to sketch one out here real quick?

Let's do it.

He's getting Don't spill the drinks and move that junk and I get a piece of paper.

Okay, First we have the main body.

Let's start with the main body.

So let's again.

Let's keep things simple.

Okay, That will be our body.

And then, of course, there's gonna be a whole down the center of it.

Sure we don't wait the other side.

Large hole for the for the tension he knows on one side and then a thin hole for the picking.

Why?

Okay, so we got our attention.

He knows we'll be here.

So put a larger nose on this side.

Actually, you'd see that, so they'd be a solid line.

Um, we're about howto attached that later, but our attention, he knows, is gonna extend out.

You've done a lot of experimentation.

What's the ideal length on that?

You know, I found about 20 millimeters 20 millions.

What?

I've made my custom ones to go and, uh, other than them being made out a week.

Materials.

It all seemed to work out.

Okay, we have hole there, obviously.

Okay.

And we're gonna find some way to make this replaceable.

So 20 and then we'll find the other lengths that we want on.

Then we'll also figure out how much of a little wing to put here on the end.

Yeah, and we can do that by by measuring.

Okay, Now, some of these pics just have a new world area for manipulating the picking head and then and for tensioning, and then we have handles.

So how do you wanna handle the controls for this?

Do we want just narrowly in here or do we own handles that coming again?

Let's steal some ideas from some successful makers.

Jacob had his was a weird shape.

Perfect.

I did a prototype like this.

His was made out of this shape, and it was okay to get a hold up to do the tensioning.

But what I found is that some locks require a lot of tension.

As you know, I agree.

S so it's a little easier to have something out.

I ended up modifying my Jacob by drilling holes and threaten him and putting in some knobs.

So something like this, But I wanted to be prettier than that.

Okay, So let's put some knobs in the side.

All right, So let's put I don't know if you keep me toward the bottom one over here, one over here and those were probably gonna be threaded, and they're gonna be into it a little bit.

And if they go all the way down to that tension, he knows we can use them to hold attention.

He knows in place.

That's a good idea.

So have that go all the way into that, That whole.

So they actually compress him so we can avoid having a set.

Screw agree, right?

Yeah.

So these were gonna be threated, obviously.

And I'm just gonna drum had kind of hanging out here to remind us I'm gonna put hatching because I want these also to be cross hatched or to be neural DDE again.

It makes a little easier.

Some of these picking sessions or marathon sessions and your hands get a little sweaty.

And are you a little oil or something on him?

I agree.

I agree.

All right, so let's talk about we're talking about graduation marks like you'd find on on this right here.

So what?

They actually go on the body or on where do we want to put that?

Well, that is something I put some thought into.

Now remember, we want to keep this wire as perfectly centered down this as we can.

And if we make a large hole in here by hauling this out, that will allow our pick tip to kind of flop around.

So what I thought we would do is kind of the opposite of what they have here.

Instead of having this telescope inside, I thought we were telescope on the outside, but something like So put the this like a pen cap, almost like a pen cap on.

And I don't really give it no threads, and they're obviously and he's very much tighter.

But we would have the graduations on this shaft, and again, we have to measure those out.

And we could easily see by having that slide on the outside, which, which of the disks that were on What do you think?

I think that's a plan.

So that will keep this much more aligned by having a tight shaft down the center.

And then the chef would obviously come out here and again, stealing an idea from Jaco, we're gonna put a set screw to pinch that.

Uh, that shaft makes that the shaft is too long.

He'll simply protrude out of the back.

And that will allow us to vary the links with shaft if we want to.