The Sussex is Harry and mega.

Should they profit from their rules status?

Is that what you think they're doing?

Or that they may end up?

But I think what they may well under billing for most likely let's be honest, we've already seen in trademark.

They're so six Name.

Um Andi.

I think it's highly unlikely that it won't continue to, um, carry on this trend.

You know, Lawrence, what's your view on it?

Will next.

We'll, um I feel sorry for them in a way, but because it's difficult when you've got a new baby and all of that and and it's it's hard.

But I just have this feeling that shouldn't.

But surely Harry must have had a chapter Meghan at some point and said, By the way, darling, this is gonna be misery and you don't have to marry me.

You don't want it on.

Then maybe they did.

Yeah, maybe they did.

But then, you know, and then you want you want to hop out.

It's like, Well, you know, coming up the cottage back on Dhe, your H r H is I think I think It's really unfair because we've got the queen.

It was an extremely different ball game, isn't she?

She's duty ahead of everything else.

And I think you know, when you're younger, you do want to make a life for your family, so do empathize with them.

But I do think it's a little bit of having cake and eating it, which thought and enjoy.

Okay, it's you little nest that your hand right up at the problem we've got with this is that Megan has agreed to be Harry's wife, and then the press have taught her to pieces.

Theo, let's be really clear about what they says.

Let's call it by its name.

It's racism.

The black woman she has.

She has been told to be the most current lovely country.

Racism, everybody, it's really stop worries me about your comment is you are a white privileged male who I was ball not.

This is an immutable characteristics recording your white privilege to be racist, Theo way.

I'll just add in that pretty patella.

Home secretary also took the view that it wasn't racist.

I'm not making a judgment on that either way, the woman in the red top there as as this question after you're nodding your head along vigorously, What have you got?

Well, I think we're.

When Meghan first married hurry, I thought it was a breath of fresh air.

I thought it was It was good as that.

It was nice to have somebody like her who was not a royal.

She came from America.

She came from an ordinary background.

I thought that was great, but I think that she's actually joined a club, and now she just doesn't like the rules.

And she wants to opt out on.

As Lawrence said, I think surely she must have reached his an intelligent woman.

Surely she must have realised some of what was going to happen.

But it might be Harry.

What is driving hurry?

But it seems to be that it's Megan that it's all about.

I don't know what we don't we don't We can only speculate.

Conway shammy What's what's your take on this?

E think that you gotta walk around in someone else's shoes?

Now I know that to be royalty is not to be.

I'm the worst off person in the country on the planet, but I still try to walk around in someone else's shoes, and I do think that some of the things that are being said a pretty harsh Andi, I would never say that because you're you know, because you're a white man.

You don't have ah perspective.

But I would ask you to consider the perspective off anybody who who's had a different experience.

And I and I know that Britain is a wonderful country and I am second to no one in my love, my country.

But it is loving your country doesn't mean that you say there is no racism in the country and there were no issues in the theme this city, perhaps more than anywhere else in this country, you know about abuses by parts off the press.

Yeah, specific.

And look for evidence on a piece.

I think it was in Buzzfeed today where there was a very, very forensic comparison between the treatment of the two princes.

Lie quote think this is the Daily Express.

So the Daily Express talking about Cate choosing flowers, and in August they said 2011 for the wedding.

Like the bride herself, the bouquet was effortlessly elegant and understated.

Then the Daily Express on on Megan choosing plans for her wedding.

How Meghan Markle Flowers Mir put Princess Charlotte's life at risk.

Now that's what the Holy selected.

Not saying that represents the Daily Express.

His perspective on things.

But that's and it goes on and it goes on and one's touching their bump too much.

And the other one's not touching it now than avocados.

A good another.

Cardoza.

Even he was so forensically.

Andi, it's not just the press.

I mean, some of the some of it.

I mean, I'm not on social media because I'm a dinosaur, but I'm also not on social media because some of it is just so awful.

And I do think Forgive me.

I do think that that the Duchess of Sussex has had some some really rough treatment question.

Waas eyes it right.

It is tricky, isn't it?

Because you can't We can't have it both ways.

If they say if we say we want a slim down real family, we won't spend less public money on people who are no in the direct line of succession, et cetera, et cetera.

You say that on the one hand, and then you say over, they shouldn't profit from their what they cannot.

Prince Harry cannot escape his birth and his status, and part of that is a very, very tragic story about losing your mother when you're too young.

I have some sympathy for that.

Have some empathy for that.

I think we should just tone it down a little bit.

Did you come back in for good?

I think that it's one of the dangerous things about throwing racism around in this country, which we're doing.

A lot of the moment is people become so conscious of it that things like the Manchester grooming scandal get ignored so that, you know, we need to be careful that we need to call out racism when it's seen when it's obvious and when it's there and we should stand together to condemn it.

But for fear of sounding races, there's been a horrific things have happened in months, turn in towns all over north of England and we should be careful and use racism when it's there and it's obvious and not cool someone racist because they don't agree.

I think when this story broke, was it Wednesday week ago?

I don't need any of us could have foreseen how it was going toe g o We've now got this.

This you've got the mail and made on Sunday.

Possibly calling Megan Marcus, Father, having kind of Marchal on Markell situation in the court in the libel case.

What's your view on on what's happening?

I think it makes the UK looks like it's lost its marbles.

Forgive me, I really struggle.

Given all the issues that are kicking a boat in the world to find any, I think the royal family has been the press alternates with the Royals between utter sycophancy and everything's fabulous or sheer hatred.

And we've seen over the years with each member of the royal farmer if there is an issue public spending, it's not entirely frivolous and out with the public donations of security and something.

But all the issues facing is I don't think this is the biggest one.

If they want to be private citizens, good luck to them.

I wish them well.

They absolutely give up the right public money when that happens absolutely well.

Lots of people want to talk about it, and that's why we didn't want people to have celebrity Love Island that doesn't mean I support no initial, No single question on that.

I'm very glad that racism is a bit more serious.

Three idea that there is no racism in Britain is quite serious, this unit and it goes beyond that.

So, no doubt there has been a great deal of racism directed against Meghan Markle from members of the public and some sections of the press.

Of course there has.

But I think in general what is really aggravating people isn't the color of her skin.

But it's the parent hypocrisy that they have shown on many occasions, even the way which they want to exit.

The royal family is, you know, they're not proposing to be like, you know, let's say the Dutch royal family, where you cycle to work and you maintain a regular job.

What they're proposing is a kind of strange hybrid where you're retained many of the perks and privileges of being in the royal family.

But you expect none of the duty on dhe to go back to the original question about Are we going to see the cashing in on their brand?

Yes, I think we will.

I think we're going to get a kind of woke celebrity.

Sort of.

Gwyneth Paltrow meets Greta Thornburg with a bit of Kardashians thrown in for good measure type thing.

God, now you tainted in any religion on.

They say they want to avoid press coverage, but I think what they're hoping to achieve with this brand is to exchange UK coverage for US coverage.

I think the public completely understands and empathizes with.

They're need photo Livermore private life and there were what routes out of the royal family that would enable them to do that.

But what they're proposing is not a retreat from public life.

It all I think the hypocrisy of that is that is really annoying.

A lot of people, yeah, fair.

He got 10 times worse press in Megan's ever ever had Fergus suit yet?

And as soon as the press say boot Meghan, I feel she pulls the racist card.

Now I'm, as she says, a woman of color, and I feel she pulls the racist card every time.

When some something she doesn't like.

She strayed off with its racist.

I'm not sure she's personally has ever said that, but other people have said that for her, yes, on Harry's mentioned it.

I think the woman in the red top, I feel as if they're you're not naive.

They seem rather naive to me and they got their priorities all but they talk about being family oriented or raises lease it.

But we know what you mean orientated as well, and they seem to just seem to know they're vulnerable.

But they have priorities that go around.

But they didn't even the didn't tell the queen Bee told the hotel in the media what they just seemed to be to make a couple of up quite naive.

Then we just got priorities around.

Why don't you tell the queen you tell your family or what you tell your family first, and if they go on about their family, their child never think about.

It's awesome, but we don't know if they didn't tell the queen what we're.

We're all speculating because we always we never fall out without ever waving hand.

Come back to you so well.

I mean, where there are questions of racism, let's just continue to put the message out there.

It's not acceptable in our society.

Tolerate, tolerate it.

We shouldn't tolerate it from members of the royal family for I mean that I'm sure that the Meghan, like others, have have experienced racism.

I haven't seen the analysis that you went into.

But what about the original question to the Sussex profit for their rules?

State, I guess, to come come back to the overall point.

Being a member of the royal family, there is clearly great material benefit.

But it must be tough living your entire life in the public eye.

Actually, I can't imagine.

Okay, I am sometimes in the public eye, but not that much of my life is in the public.

I think it must be really tough when they're a huge number of duties associated with it and you don't get to make all your own choices on DDE have a huge respect for our family.

Huge step for the queen and I just hope that it's a shame this is being played out so publicly, but I hope that they will be able to come to a conclusion and move on matches, Alan said.

There's lots of other stuff that we should be focusing on the country and that's where we should be focusing our time and our energies mine with this structure with a high that we've spent 10 minutes talking about.

A family of multi millionaires exist on state subsidies.

Benefit remove a little bit more importantly, Theo.