Hi.

How are you?

Ok, fine.

How you doing today?

You're pretty good.

I gotta ask.

Given Bernie's recent health situation, Is he still your candidate?

I don't know.

I just because he has a heart attack is a problem.

I get asthma.

Have asthma was a tragedy.

My God.

As But I can perform the war.

I don't like that he wants.

He wants free health insurance.

And he wants free education and limitations of the Abbott cousin.

Right?

I have a cousin and she she has a degree.

And she was She was telling me one time how she was so miserable because her credit can get up so she can really get the apartments that she wants.

And her credit is down because she owes four for student loans.

So it is like, How does that How does that encourage people to want to go to school?

I don't make me want to go to school.

I don't want to be in debt so high.

You suppose how you gonna make America?

How you gonna make America be great if we gotta pay?

So be dedicating.

What do you think your daughter story is?

gonna be.

And what is the story?

Who do you want her to look up to now?

I always say this.

I will always keep my daughter humble.

You know, she still be going to the bronze.

He still be going to Washington Heights here.

We're going to my grandmother's house, and I'm not always, like, so her to look and listen.

Don't be bragging about the things you have.

Don't be bragging about having a mansion.

I get every door I want because some of your friends, some of your cousin, someone, your family members, they don't have that you gonna show her hustlers one day I am going to talk to my daughter about everything that I did in my life because it's just not a secret.

But I also one wanted to be like a lesson like, for example, right.

I have a little sister and my little sister.

She saw me coming from work at four o'clock in the morning with my stripper heels in my bag and be counting on my singles.

But she seems certain times that I cry because sometimes I cry because I felt disrespected because guys sometimes be drunk and they want to smack the shit out of your ass.

They wantto aggressively grab on your titties.

They will make you feel like like you just like a piece of shit.

Like not worthy.

Like, you know, sometimes the money is so glamorous.

But sometimes we feel so like the values that you have as a woman.

Sometimes it goes just a little down, and sometimes your self esteem goes a little down, like you know, you dancing, you feel like your body's perfect.

You feel like a person.

Perfect.

But then a guy just he don't want So buy a dance of you.

But he buys a dance from another woman, and you just feel like, am I not pretty enough?

And I just have to go through a lot of things.

And I would tell my daughter like it's like, Listen, I bust my ass, I bust my ass for you, and I'm gonna give you this choice.

The choices.

You could go to school, you could open a business I will fund.

Did I'll get you an apartment?

I'll get you a car.

But if you wanna live your life independently and do what you want, you go out there in the streets and you tell me if it's as easy as you think it is, When did you think it turned for you?

And you started to see yourself as a boss.

Is this levels off like silly thing like a boss?

Because even when I was a dancer and I was making my own schedule, I felt sometimes like a boss, like, uh, I don't gotta listen to nobody.

But then again, they had to listen to the owners sometimes, like, I did feel like like they were watching me and I couldn't act the way I wanted to act sometimes.

So it's like that didn't make me feel so bossy.

I felt like I was a boss when I was, like, really in control off everything that I do like when it comes to my wardrobe, when it comes to when I want to release music.

Hi.

Wants a real music.

That's I felt like I'm a Boston.

They're not suffer that paying bills.

Maybe feel like a deal, boss.

Say I pay the way shifting things a bit.

You were just quite the boss in Paris and we were so delighted to see you in fashion action l at stomp around.

This is what we talk about.

Fashion.

How is that for you?

How is Paris?

I don't know, like is like another level to me.

You know what I'm saying?

Like I work so hard to come, like so these levels to be able to get on these shows because let me tell you something.

When it comes to fashion the industry, they don't care if you got number one hits all the awards.

If you just saying if you just instead of style and right, they just think I'm gonna invite you today shows they just don't care like is that you gotta be into it.

You gotta dress properly, Not properly.

But you just have to have that that sense off style.

So it's just like it's something that you gotta prove.

And I feel like it took in years for me to prove it.

And it's like I finally em were I want to be is just like I don't know how anybody seen that Hilary Duff movie.

It's like a song that every single time that I goto event I always wanted to go to always stayed in my head goes, Hey, now.

Hey, now this is the trees May, And that's how I feel every single time that I get invited.

So these fashion events, because we work our ass off is this When you've been working with Colin, we love that relationship started.

Exactly.

How does it work?

How How do you start planning one of your looks?

Um, well, it started when I did this.

Ah, photo shoot.

No, like a magazine cover for Fader.

And?

And I met him.

And I was a little hard on him because, you know, I have a certain type of body No saying I'm skinny, but I got big boobs and a big but so certain things just make my violin is a little weird and everything, but I like how he was.

Just sold a sermon.

I like how he had a solution for everything.

And we just started working with each other ever since.

You're talking about how you're bringing yourself into fashion, but fashion is coming to you.

I mean, you are now.

You are the center of fashion now.

So how much is that when you work with con, You think?

No, no, no.

This is not a fashion moment.

It's a cardi b moment, and fashion has gotta wake up to this.

Every outfits and me is such a risk.

And so it's like sometimes something that I will consider fashion.

Maybe the people won't consider fashion, but it's like at the end of the day, I gotta put on what I like.

So is that I don't know.

Maybe people weren't inconsiderate fashion.

What's the first thing you bought when you in your mind?

You thought you had money?

I bought a Gucci rain Jackie that caused me $6000.

Whoa.

You keep all your looks.

I keep all my life.

Sometimes I got I got give some back because there's a pool.

But I have a really large closet that is like hold my daughters my size when I broke because how fashion works in your house like do you and your husband, you coordinate your looks for red carpets for because, you know he's like really his his 1000 Wilhite beasts.

It's very It's good, though.

Yeah, excellent.

Good hi beast.

So it's like sometimes it will.

Sometimes we disagree on certain things you are.

Do you edit him way to go at each other because sometimes it is I who dressed better.

I don't know.

I just baby maker the material.

You look at them, it's feel you'll be the judge, so be getting a little intense.

But, um, But when I Alfred, it's really good.

We give each other So much compliments is that we are like our biggest fans to each other.

Your daughter is a better wardrobe than many of us vote.

How is that working?

Do you pick her outfits?

How does it go?

It's been my new hobby lately, and it's just becoming like, almost like when I shop.

Because, you know, when I usually shop, I usually put the outfits on my bed and I just spread them and I'd be like, This would look good with this.

Typical.

And now I'm not even doing that as much.

I'm doing it more with her stuff, and I'm just waiting for these for a coach to come in.

Oh, I'm going with talent.

It's so fun.

It's like vesting a dull all over again.

Tell us about fashion Nova.

How does that work?

How do you work with them?

And you know, we wearing fashion ova before you started the collaboration.

And, yeah, I've been wearing fashionable for a long time.

I like fashion over a lot because it just it just fits my body perfectly for my first collection.

It was very difficult because we started designing and looking to things, and I was seven months pregnant.

Now I was restricted from traveling, so I had to see ah, lot of clothes through face time, so I couldn't feel the material, couldn't see how I translated in person, and that was very, very difficult for me.

But it didn't really really good.

Well, even if it they're really good, um, for my second piece, for my second piece, I feel like I listened to a lot of people online.

They wanted to be more revealing, more sexy, you know, fashion over, do a lot of sexy, a whole lot of as whole lot of booze showing.

So I was like, All right, let me do that.

But in my way and it was pretty cool.

And it was it was a lot of moments that is like, you know, it's crazy, like when was having though the collection party is this thing like everybody was so happy and everything.

And even though we were happy, it was like a lot of times that I was like, really frustrated because, you know, we gotta work on a certain type of budget, so the clothes could be sold at a certain type of price and then some of the material I hated.

And then it's like when you see the sketching, it looks amazing.

And when it comes back as I hold on, who the hell picked this?

And it's like you picked in, is out.

I hate it good again.

And that was that was such a challenge.

But you're getting a whole lesson in how to work in fast fashion.

And howto had a move in that type of production.

Right?

So you're you're learning it.

You're learning which fabrics can work and not work.

Yes, is that it was definitely a lesson doesn't make you think, you know, as Reon is done, I want my own line.

I'm gonna I'm gonna move it forward because she's, you know, just go on just well without damage.

Um, if I ever do that, it would have to be on a certain point of my music career day.

I don't still have to like, like, have to still prove myself.

You know, I'm saying, like, I feel like Rihanna isn't as in the point of her career, that she don't got a release music.

She already she already proved herself.

She's already there.

She already put her time in as well as Kanye like he'd been.

He'd been doing it for a long time so he could focus, and she could focus on her, her brand.

You know what I'm saying?

Like is like now, like you know, her clothing brand.

So it's like, um when it comes to doing, designing and being there for doing your clothes, you're fit.

It's not like a three day for they think is not like all I gotta fly in that I fly out who really has to be there every single day, making sure that everything is going fine.

You cannot just be face timing things like is like the first collection.

It was just such a damage.

Seriously, it was really hard for me, and then the second time was a little challenge soup, because it's like I keep flying in an hour so I could only be there like once a week, and that's just not enough because it's like nobody does the work better than you, he said.

In music you still have to release, you have a lot more to do in some way.

You're still on a curve of releasing music.

What what will define?

When will you know?

You're at the point where you've you know you've got it you've got You've got the canon of work.

You're ready.

You're that Rihanna, Kanye Point.

It's not a matter of time on that.

Imagine it's a matter of accomplishment.

Sometimes I fool, eh?

Because I always I always tell myself like like from the beginning, when when I get on the radio, I feel like I'm meeting and then it's like when my album come out, I'm gonna feel like I made it when I want.

When I want certain awards, I feel like, Oh, maybe when I want to brand me, I still feel like I made it.