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  • Flaming less wear here outside of the famous guest room records were in Oklahoma City for one of my favorite days of the year record Store Day.

  • Our Love of Music, A Dogfish runs just as deep as our love for beer in Today's an extra special day for me because we did a beautiful collaboration with one of my favorite bands in history, The Flaming Lips.

  • Today's episode is all about a couple of my favorite things.

  • Music, beer, independence and collaboration.

  • This is gonna be fun.

  • The Flaming Lips are one of the most innovative and collaborative rock bands of all time.

  • With more than 30 years of experience in music and iconic status in Oklahoma City, it was a dream to be able to visit them on their home turf to bring together fans of indie music and Indy beer through one super unique collaboration.

  • And while I was in town, it was my goal to steal lead singer wing coin away from the throngs of fans and sit down in the beautiful 21 C hotel to pick his brain about the creative process and get his reactions to a few different collaborative bruise.

  • The first part of her journey is this beautiful Westside Drank from Our Friends at Anthem and Stone Club.

  • This is a cool story about weaving together independent brewers that by nature, you tail while the independent thing must means that they're always just on their own doing their own thing.

  • But this is a case of two breweries here in Oklahoma City who, instead of getting pissed off the first brewer Rather brewery, was opening.

  • They helped each other, you know, borrowing grain borrowing equipment.

  • And when the second brewer finally opened, Stone Cloud, the first brewer anthem, reached out and said, Hey, let's do collaboration to try and get more game to come to this part of the city.

  • So take a sip.

  • It's It's a Brett pale ale.

  • Now Brett is basically a special yeast that will give it sort of a clue v dry character.

  • See, I like it how you're able to describe what's in it, get close.

  • You get a little Clovis thing going on, clues that one medium would be too advanced for my palate at the moment.

  • See this a good beer.

  • Beautiful, right?

  • Yeah, that's a good beer.

  • Wouldn't be able to describe it in detail like you are.

  • But goods a Naj active all Brewers went to hear when they asked, What do you think of my beer?

  • It's good.

  • That's that's great to hear you guys have chosen to stay in Oklahoma City.

  • How has that informed your journey in in the band right now?

  • Bigger.

  • That is a part of the flaming lips for us, we would always have.

  • Our music is made in our mind.

  • It's not really made in an area, but in time I think this story of you know Santa Claus comes from the North Pole.

  • Oh, cool.

  • Yeah, you know, the Beatles come from Liverpool.

  • The flaming lips come from Oklahoma.

  • And that little thing very first times we ever played somewhere you'd read the two lines if they write about you in the local paper and that, say, the flaming that's making this music and they come from Oklahoma in the same way that flaming lips are proudly synonymous with Oklahoma, you guys were also synonymous with collaboration.

  • And that's the next phase of our liquid journey.

  • We're gonna talk collaboration.

  • Excellent.

  • So this is collaboration, not litigation, from Avery Brewery and Russian River Burry.

  • The craft brewing industry is 99% asshole free on these two were helping us keep our odds together.

  • There's a great story that kind of personified that where, unbeknownst to either of them, they both decided in the 2005 to name a beer salvation.

  • And instead of like luring up and getting the yeah, trademark wars, they said, How about we do our H to salvation and let's do a blend of our salvation is and call the beer collaboration, not litigation.

  • Wow, it really is that idea of instead about why you're not my enemy.

  • If you're If you're doing what I'm doing and you might do it better than me, then you're my enemy and I should I should destroy you.

  • I think when creative people are around other creative people, they love it, always sort of say it's it's like having our superpower.

  • You're helping me.

  • You're giving me energy.

  • You're giving me ideas.

  • You're making me rethink the things that I had doubts about.

  • And that's really the truth.

  • We always say that, uh, we're more focused on the good karma that comes with focusing on collaboration than the negative energy that comes with focusing on competition.

  • You see that?

  • You said that.

  • Good.

  • Try the goodness guys to brewery.

  • So like I said, this one's gonna be a little stronger.

  • LG warned me, a Belgian dark ale that's fermented warm with a Belgian yeast that will throw Esther's like fruity, peachy karma.

  • Lee, I love that.

  • Say I think now you you've given that to me before I tasted well, Maybe Maybe I'm off.

  • Let's see.

  • Yeah, I mean, that's definitely got a good vibe to it.

  • You liking it.

  • But if you drink too much of that, you're gonna get drunk pretty quick.

  • You gotta pacers called you ever corn anyway.

  • E.

  • I loved what you said about the superpowers, and I always think of it and then raise my Children to say, You know, everyone has their own unique superpowers and everyone with every decision they make can either use those powers for good or for evil and, you know, creatively finding like minded people like you said, if someone's doing something similar but in their own way, and they got their own superpowers you're like, How can we fight evil together by making something of using your superpowers?

  • Me using mud?

  • Can you give an example of one that blew your mind last 30 years of how how how in sync, you and that collaborative partner warmer?

  • I mean, I mean, Miley is I mean, she's like that as well.

  • You know, you think she's Miley Cyrus and she's a great singer and she's a flamboyant freak or whatever, and people are still insecure.

  • You know the idea.

  • Like, I don't really know if what I'm doing is gonna work or if it's any good and people don't allow that you to see that we all have that anyway, I don't know.

  • It's so you said you're invested in it, but it's not just invested.

  • Like I wanted to succeed.

  • You're emotionally in it.

  • And these air, these people, they're not.

  • They become more than your friends people that you love.

  • So we'll go from the collaborations of other fine folks that put their hearts on their sleeves and trusted each other to the one we got to do together.

  • Excellent.

  • Alright, alright.

  • This music has always been one of my biggest inspirations a dogfish.

  • So it's always been a dream of mine that my beer would inspire musicians as well.

  • For this to a collab, I teamed up with indie rock legends the Flaming Lips to create dragons and young, a tropical paleo packed with dragon fruit.

  • Young Mary passion fruit and black carriages.

  • Lead singer wing coin, then wrote Leers, inspired by the brew for a special released called The Story of Yum Yum!

  • And drag pressed into super limited vinyl records injected with beer itself.

  • There's music in the beard and beer music.

  • Literally.

  • Look at the color of that one.

  • That's a beautiful color, but the most like important in terms of how it turned out.

  • Ingredients.

  • Dammit, that's good, right?

  • So the dragon fruit, the young buries the black carrot juice, those air.

  • Probably the most important ingredients in terms of how it turned out, and they add fruitiness.

  • But it's like an astringent dry, not sweet.

  • I see.

  • So you're saying a stringent.

  • This is like the sour.

  • This is the sour part of it that we're like a heart thing coming from the fruit.

  • We jumped on the phone a little over a year ago and I said, these are some ingredients that were already thinking about brewing.

  • And then I sent you a package, and then you kind of took it from there with the musical part of the journey, right?

  • Well, you know, like you mentioning the ingredients and you know, the idea that maybe those could be worked into something.

  • And so I just turned, you know, some of the ingredients into these characters, and then you start having this story, and I think I drew this at the kitchen table and even this idea that he's got an ear and he's got three noses or whatever no lies on.

  • Well, that's part of the story.

  • So yeah, and you're you were encouraging when you know, when I showed you these characters and I think it was just another one of those.

  • Oh, man, this is This is becoming something.

  • Our first conversation where I threw out some ingredient ideas and you didn't say that was stupid.

  • I kind of like this is going The next sentence out of your mouth was Well, if we do a vinyl for record store day, put beer in the vinyl.

  • Yes, and I was like, Yes, Who could that really happen?

  • We'll see.

  • I'm coming at it from Well, I don't know how it could happen, but I know it could happen for sure, because we've done wasn't a seven inch, but it was a bigger record filled with human blood and the blood that was in it was the actual people that are on the record.

  • Jim James, I've got Chris Martin from Coldplay have got Kesha's blood.

  • Actually, their blood, it's too normal pieces of vinyl.

  • And then there's this little thing That's carpet in the little kid and the way that we put the blood into our records.

  • I had a big draw.

  • Blood literally fill it full.

  • I would stick it in the little hole and then we had this little rubber cement that would just fill it out.

  • You have video of you combining catches bride do James Bligh.

  • Did sparks and smoke start come out of the force?

  • Of course it did.

  • Yeah.

  • We've put a lot of our blood sweat.

  • Tears are hard work totally into what we make so and it is I mean, it is a strange thing to see.

  • I mean, you think these days all the things that can be made, and it's still it's still a fascinating thing to see super cool get behind the Bay area that lined them up.

  • Craftsmanship is the process, not the product, and I have enjoyed this process with you immensely.

  • Cheers away When it comes to collaborators, I've rarely met someone as enthusiastic and creatively invested as Wayne Coyne.

  • Touring Oklahoma City, with its unofficial mayor and most recognized rock star, was pretty epic, and as a music nerd trapped inside a brewer's body, it was exciting and a little nerve racking to see flaming lips fans try this vibrant, tasty beer we made together.

  • As fun as the process is a collaboration, can't realize its full potential until it's living out the world, making people say That's odd, Let's drink it.

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