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  • - Hi, everyone, welcome to the Daily Homeroom live stream.

  • I'm Sal Khan from Khan Academy.

  • For those of you all who are new to this,

  • this is a Homeroom that we are doing every day,

  • as the name implies, to really stay connected

  • during these times of school closures.

  • Khan Academy, we realize that we have a role,

  • we have a duty to step up when we saw the schools closing.

  • And we said how can we better support parents,

  • teachers, students around the country and around the world

  • in these really hard times.

  • It's we've been running parent webinars, teacher webinars,

  • putting together all of our content from early learning.

  • We're gonna talk a lot about early learning today

  • from early learning all the way through elementary,

  • middle and high school and ways,

  • learning plans and schedules that can help folks.

  • And then also to do this so that we can stay connected

  • and answer folks questions in kind of a live synchronous way

  • in this time of social distancing.

  • I do remind everyone that Khan Academy

  • is a non profitable organization.

  • We can only exist through philanthropic donations

  • from folks like yourself.

  • So if you're in our position to do so

  • please think about making a donation to Khan Academy,

  • every donation matters.

  • I wanna give special thanks to several corporations

  • that have stepped up in the last several weeks.

  • As soon as they saw the COVID crisis was happening,

  • they said, hey, we wanna make sure that,

  • you can stay up and running.

  • We were running a deficit even before the crisis

  • and we continue to run a deficit.

  • But the support from these organizations

  • have made a big difference Bank of America, AT&T,

  • Google.org, Novartis and Fastly, thank you so much.

  • And if any of you can are representing corporations,

  • please reach out to us I'm khan@khanacademy.org

  • anyone can email me there.

  • If you think you have an interesting way for us

  • to get sustainable cause you can imagine,

  • we're already running in a deficit and then the crisis

  • our traffic is about three x of what it typically is,

  • we're trying to do more programs,

  • so we, we need that support.

  • So I am super excited about our guest today,

  • we've had her on before.

  • But she's got several really exciting announcements

  • that I have to say, I was just telling Caroline before this,

  • I'm quite enthusiastic, I'm quite excited

  • about some of the stuff she's gonna talk about.

  • So Caroline, maybe I'll let you take the floor,

  • you know, you have a couple of announcements.

  • Tell us what's new at Khan Academy Kids.

  • Or actually remind folks what Khan Academy Kids is,

  • and then tell us what's new.

  • - Sounds good, yep.

  • So I lead the Khan Academy Kids team,

  • which is a program for children ages two through seven,

  • so preschool through grade one.

  • And it's a comprehensive early learning program

  • that covers multiple subjects,

  • everything from academic subjects like reading, and math

  • and also social emotional development

  • and executive function skills.

  • And our app includes thousands of lessons, and books,

  • and interactive activities that kids can learn from.

  • And so there is an adaptive learning path

  • that adjusts to a child's level.

  • And then there is a library,

  • that has the thousands of lessons in it.

  • And today, we have a lot of new things

  • that we've been working on.

  • One is a big research study was just announced,

  • and I can go through that.

  • And then we also are announcing our teacher tools launch

  • in Khan Academy Kids version three.

  • - So a lot of good news here, so first of all,

  • tell us about the research study.

  • - Sure, so it was very important for us

  • to get an independent academic study on our program,

  • to test the effectiveness of it.

  • And we did a study with Professor David Arnold

  • from the University of Massachusetts in Amherst,

  • and he just released his results publicly.

  • And the study was a randomized control trial study,

  • which is the gold standard of academic studies.

  • Were there two groups of randomly selected students,

  • and one group gets the Khan Academy Kids intervention

  • and one get is the control group.

  • And so this was a study of four and five year olds

  • prior to entering kindergarten.

  • And they were from low income families

  • with an median annual income of about $24,000.

  • And so what we saw was that in a 10 week study,

  • the kids that were using Khan Academy Kids

  • saw substantial increases in their pre literacy skills.

  • So they were tested pre test,

  • with the test of preschool early literacy, TOPEL test.

  • And then post test and we saw the gains

  • were really substantial.

  • They were at the beginning of the study

  • about upper 34th percentile likely,

  • due to the effects of poverty.

  • And then after the 10 weeks of using Khan Academy Kids

  • for 20 minutes a day.

  • They were close to the national average at 47th percentile.

  • And so the size of these gains are substantial,

  • they're equivalent to what is typically found

  • in much more expensive intervention.

  • So as an example, the phonological gains

  • were comparable to those found in an intervention of 25,

  • one to one sessions with a professional tutor.

  • - I mean there's a lot of what you've just said

  • that I think is worth unpacking and underlining.

  • I mean, just the first thing is,

  • 10 weeks is not a lot of time,

  • it's your point it was 20 minutes per day.

  • And that essentially closed the gap between the students

  • who are performing a good bit, below where they need to be.

  • And getting essentially to the national average,

  • if I heard that correctly.

  • - Right because students, particularly low income students,

  • often enter the first day of kindergarten

  • and they're already behind

  • in these critical pre literacy skills.

  • Which are things like recognizing letters of the alphabet,

  • understanding letter sounds, knowing their letter sounds,

  • and understanding phonological awareness skills,

  • being able to break down sounds and words and sentences.

  • So these are really critical to learning how to read.

  • So they start school behind and then they don't catch up.

  • - Now, I was super excited.

  • I mean, this is one of those things where I'm,

  • obviously this is part of Khan Academy's Khan Academy Kids.

  • But Caroline and her team

  • are a bit of a mini team on their own.

  • And so I sometimes I don't know about these things

  • until I her them, and it was really, really heartening.

  • You know, we always had an intuitive sense,

  • this was really valuable.

  • And I have to say, you know, Caroline,

  • I was telling you this before we got on the call.

  • I have a five and a half year old, as many folks know.

  • And, you know, people might say, oh,

  • Sal's five and a half year old, he must be super motivated,

  • in academics, no he likes to dance a lot,

  • and you know, and make potty humor.

  • And my wife says he got that from me.

  • I don't know, I think I'm quite sophisticated,

  • but he's been on it so much.

  • And, you know, so intuitively as a parent,

  • I got to say it feels right.

  • It is incredibly engaging for children,

  • but it's not your just your classic edutainment,

  • it is true standards aligned.

  • Tell us about kind of the work that's put in,

  • to make sure that it is standards aligned

  • and engaging at the same time.

  • - So Khan Academy Kids, each of our lessons

  • is aligned with national standards.

  • So for preschool, it's the headstart

  • early learning outcomes framework for literacy and math.

  • And then for kindergarten and first grade,

  • it's the Common Core Standards.

  • And we've worked with educators from the Stanford Ed school,

  • who are who specialized in early learning

  • and child development.

  • To make sure that our lessons are aligned with standards

  • and also taught in a way that reflects

  • how really experienced teachers teach these concepts

  • in the real world.

  • And what we've learned through looking at the research

  • on the learning of science learning,

  • is that technology has the power

  • to really further the learning for children

  • if it meets certain criteria.

  • So it has to be active hands on engaging learning,

  • it has to give kids specific real time feedback.

  • And then it also needs to adjust

  • to a child's individual level.

  • And that's what we've built Khan Academy Kids

  • around those principles.

  • - And I wanna emphasize to folks, this is all free,

  • this is all non for profit.

  • And I think a lot of people are skeptical

  • about things like this, they're like, there must be a catch.

  • I mean, people have thought that about Khan Academy,

  • but there's other resources out there,

  • that are more than happy to charge you,

  • you know, five dollar month, $10 a month, you know,

  • buy an app for this amount.

  • And, you know, anyone who doesn't believe me

  • go download the app and put it in front of a two, three,

  • four, five, six or seven year old and you will see,

  • not only does it work and keep them engaged

  • and is very good for them, but it has a lot more in it

  • than you would normally expect of an app.

  • I mean, you touched on it there's a ton of stories in there,

  • ton of activities.

  • - Yeah, that's what we've been hearing from parents

  • is that it's particularly during this time

  • of remote learning.

  • They are relieved to find something

  • that is so comprehensive.

  • And actually they can see their children building

  • their vocabulary, learning how to count.

  • I think we've heard we hear directly from parents

  • who are saying that they didn't realize

  • that technology could teach their child so much.

  • But they're in these desperate situations,

  • they found Khan Academy Kids,

  • and now after just a few days or weeks of using it,

  • they're realizing that their kids

  • are really building these skills.

  • And it's not only the academic skills

  • that are so important for this age,

  • as Sal was saying, his son is wants to play

  • And so all kids at this age want to play.

  • So the way that we approach learning is play based,

  • and entertaining, as well as engaging for kids.

  • Is like they wanna learn through stories and songs.

  • And that's those are really, through play

  • is how kids build some of those critical early numeracy,

  • vocabulary and literacy skills.

  • - And I do wanna remind folks, if you have questions,

  • start putting your questions on YouTube and Facebook

  • on the message boards.

  • We have team members looking at them,

  • I will get them to Caroline

  • over the course of our conversation.

  • But there's a few more things

  • I wanna just make sure I have a chance

  • to talk to Caroline about.

  • I mean, I do wanna double down on this.

  • You know, my wife is a physician and she was on physician,

  • some physician moms group.

  • And people were talking about this age group,

  • and people saying what should I use,

  • and a lot of parents were saying

  • a lot of physician moms were saying Khan Academy Kids,

  • it's incredible, it's free,

  • and it has way more than you think.

  • But there are other people who are saying,

  • oh, you know, this thing that I pay $10 a month for my wife

  • is like, I can't believe people are paying money.

  • When this is available, especially

  • and some of that stuff you pay money for.

  • It's not as engaging, it's not as standards aligned

  • and it doesn't have the types of efficacy studies

  • that you just talked about.

  • And look, you and I are not selling anything.

  • We are funded with philanthropic donations,

  • and I'll say please donate so that we can keep doing this.

  • But I you know, if you have young kids

  • you shouldn't have to pay for this.

  • And if you know people, the young kids make sure they know

  • that this stuff is available there for free.

  • You know, we don't have the marketing budget to tell,

  • you know, to put ads out on the world.

  • But this is there free and most high quality resource.

  • Caroline, tell us about the other,

  • I mean, there's the announcement around

  • some of your teacher tools, tell us about that.

  • And I actually also wanna make sure

  • people know about some of the first grade content

  • you've added recently as well.

  • Tell us about what you're doing for teachers.

  • - Sure, so right before school closures

  • at the beginning of March,

  • we launched a large update to Khan Academy Kids

  • that included all of the Common Core Standards

  • for first grade, ELA and math.

  • And then after school closures on the heels of that,

  • we decided to fast track our teacher tools update.

  • So we have just in the last week announced our teacher tools

  • and this was really important for us

  • because since the beginning teachers

  • have been Claromentis Khan Academy Kids

  • and they've actually been,

  • which was originally designed for families and parents.

  • So parents set up an account

  • and so teachers were actually using the home accounts

  • to set up their students.

  • But it really wasn't designed to support a whole class.

  • And so these teacher tools include,

  • easy ways for teachers to set up their class

  • with the teacher and students.

  • And then to look at search all of our lessons by standards,

  • so the standards that they're teaching tool,

  • they can find the relevant lessons,

  • and then assign lessons to their students.

  • And then after their students have done some of the lessons,

  • they can monitor how their students are doing.

  • So which students have completed these lessons,

  • how they're doing, what the scores are,

  • and they can look at the assignments by assignment,

  • or they can look at the scores by student as well.

  • - Go ahead.

  • - And this remote learning there, we've made it easy

  • so that teachers can just share a code with parents at home.

  • So that the students can learn at home,

  • on their devices at home,

  • and then the teachers can continue to send them assignments

  • and monitor their progress.

  • And this is so important in this age,

  • because students really need that connection

  • with their teacher, and the teachers know best about

  • what this their individual students need to be learning.

  • - Now, I wanna emphasize that,

  • one parents could also use that functionality.

  • And if you know, as I was a couple days ago,

  • I was like, where is this functionality

  • that Caroline and Michael had showed me?

  • And I was like, oh, I have to update the app (chuckles)

  • Reminder, update the app, and then you will see

  • this functionality and there is instructions.

  • Where can people find instructions, if they wanna understand

  • and how do they activate the teacher tools?

  • Or how do they assign things?

  • If you just go to khankids.org,

  • we will have a link to our teacher tools.

  • And we have modules like Quick Setup Guide

  • and things like that, to walk you through

  • each of the different steps.

  • - Yeah, and I gotta say, it's quite powerful,

  • you're able to just look at the entire library thing

  • by standards, by grade level,

  • and then just you can sample it very nicely

  • and say, oh, I can assign this to my students.

  • And, you know, we, I've been talking

  • to the my five year old teachers

  • and it is amazing, it's almost the exact, you know,

  • I think they're very thoughtful

  • about what my five year old needs to be doing right now.

  • But you know, but they're doing,

  • they were doing primarily those,

  • you know kind of classic worksheets.

  • But the stuff that y'all have done,

  • cover those same standards

  • in so much more of an engaging way and interactive way.

  • And he frankly wants you know, it's a bit of pulling teeth

  • to get my son to do even one worksheet on you know,

  • in theory that could take him like three minutes to do

  • but like, you know, a long versus short oh,

  • and I'm like, let's just doing it, just you know (laughs)

  • But same activity on Khan Academy Kids

  • he like wants to do it after kind of pull him off of it.

  • So, you know, if you can't tell I'm very excited

  • about the work of Caroline.

  • (laughing)

  • - We're really heartened in this time I think,

  • you know, there is risk of academic loss during this time,

  • without teachers and being in school,

  • and so this is why we're so motivated to do this work.

  • But we're so heartened to see all the kids and parents

  • that are writing into us

  • with stories about how they are just hungry to learn

  • and they love learning and they're sending us their stories

  • and they're sending us their photos of the activities

  • that they're doing.

  • - Yep, there is two questions here from Facebook,

  • Scott Yang says, hey, Sal,

  • why didn't you put the big bear behind you today?

  • You know what, Scott, I'm gonna do that,

  • I'm gonna go get Cody.

  • I was told I had to be on, I think it was CNN

  • and one member of our team says,

  • well, you know, Cody bear

  • looks like he's just kind of staring at you.

  • So that's why I took it off.

  • So I'm gonna get that but while,

  • I actually I'm gonna get that right now,

  • but I'm gonna give a question from Andrea Adams Midget

  • from Facebook.

  • How can I ensure, this is for Caroline,

  • how can I ensure my five and seven year old,

  • do not get addicted to tech

  • during this time of homeschooling online?

  • And I'm gonna go get Cody.

  • - Sure I look forward to seeing Cody,

  • that is a great question.

  • I think at the top of our minds,

  • we designed Khan Academy Kids

  • to make sure that it was developmentally appropriate.

  • And not to focus on using technology

  • for hours and hours on end.

  • It's designed for kids to be using

  • in five to 10 to 20 minute increments

  • depending on their age and what's appropriate for them.

  • So some ways that we've done that is, there is Cody

  • in designed activities,

  • so that after a lesson you are coming back out

  • and the lessons are paced to be short increments

  • with an introductory video

  • and then highly active interactive experiences.

  • And then after a few activities

  • will tell your kids to get up and sing this song

  • or dance and so, or go outside and take a look at the leaves

  • or something like that related to the story.

  • So we really are cognizant of not having it,

  • be an experience that just sucks your kids in.

  • Which a lot of adult technology as we all know

  • from social media, and all that is designed to be addictive.

  • So we're on the congress designed to be,

  • hands on, minds on learning, but not sucking your kids in.

  • You can kind of tell when they get that glazed over look

  • for things that are not active learning.

  • And so we designed it to be active and interactive.

  • Another thing is, I think just being we have come out

  • with some schedules for kids just as a starting point.

  • And every family is different and has different routines,

  • but having some structure to the day does help,

  • particularly with young children and them knowing okay,

  • we're gonna have reading time now, and then in half an hour,

  • we are gonna go outside and play.

  • And so understanding that regular routine

  • and that those transitions that are coming up

  • can really help.

  • We really advocate balancing not only the Khan Academy Kids

  • all time, but all the other learning

  • that they're doing outside and inside the house.

  • And we'd come up with some programs to support that as well,

  • we believe in offline learning and have some printables

  • on our website, as well as activities

  • that you can do with materials in your house.

  • And then Sophie and I from my team are hosting a circle time

  • where we encourage kids to get up and dance

  • and we read books with them and do interactive activities

  • that also highlight the types of learning

  • that are in Khan Kids.

  • - And I'll say, just as a parent,

  • and you know, this is literally something

  • that I observed this morning, and last night.

  • Is, you know, when my son is on a device,

  • he looks, you know, I don't know if you can see me

  • right now, but you know, he looks kind of like a fleet,

  • you know, he kind of has this like, you know,

  • when he is just like watching YouTube, he's just like this,

  • you know and no parent wants to see that,

  • on their kid too long

  • where he's just you know, staring at it.

  • But when he is doing Khan Academy Kids,

  • there is something about it,

  • where he's like, yes, and he is moving around,

  • and he is dancing.

  • And he is like, I don't know what it is,

  • but I definitely seeing him,

  • it's kind of feels like healthier behavior

  • than you know, the just like, you know, tablet, zombieism

  • that you sometimes see.

  • And, you know, what I would add is,

  • you know, no one is advocating to do this hours a day.

  • I think your research study was 20 minutes a day,

  • so, you know, I could imagine a couple of 10, 15 minutes

  • a day sessions, it's plenty to keep people progressing.

  • And if you need time, where your kids on the screen,

  • this is a very healthy screen time.

  • - Yeah, we've designed it so that Cody bear

  • the one behind Sal talks to your child,

  • and we've scripted the language, open ended question

  • so that kids that's why the kids are talking back to the app

  • and tell, you know, talking about, you know,

  • what their thinking and their learning.

  • - Yeah, there's just this morning,

  • we my son was doing the subjects of sentence

  • and you know, it was like, you know,

  • he wrote a bicycle to town and it had a picture of Cody

  • or a little cartoon of Cody riding a bicycle.

  • And I was like, you know, it says, what's the subject

  • and you could tell he was probably processing it,

  • cause the, you know, obviously was he,

  • and he's like Cody's riding a bike.

  • I guess Cody is he.

  • You know, it was just really powerful for me to see

  • that, process going on I actually thought,

  • you know being able to identify subjects

  • or kind of verbs in a sentence was a little bit beyond him

  • at the stage he is in.

  • But I was very, very impressed

  • with how the app delivered it.

  • So more questions here, so this is Dave Hankin from YouTube

  • says as a teacher, I'd like to know

  • how you recommend introducing Khan Academy Kids

  • to parent guardians, so they'll buy into regular use.

  • - As a teacher, I think now with our teacher tools,

  • it would be a lot easier

  • to get them to buy into regular use,

  • particularly if you send them an assignment or two a day.

  • Then they will know they're getting something

  • from their teacher and the students will be able

  • to see that assignment in there view,

  • and you'll be able to see which ones they've completed

  • and and how they've been done.

  • And doing these assignments is really quick,

  • you can just search by standard

  • or even just look through our library

  • and see which lessons are aligned

  • with what you would like to teach

  • and then just press a button and it's assigned.

  • - Yeah, I have to say, you know what,

  • what I've seen for my own children's school

  • is they've been doing a heroic job,

  • they have a learning management system.

  • And they, you know, they sent us printouts,

  • so but every morning me or my wife,

  • we have to go print out the worksheets,

  • then my child does them,

  • then we got to take pictures of them.

  • We texted, uploaded onto the learning manager,

  • it's quite stressful for us some days.

  • But you could imagine now with Khan Academy Kids,

  • you can as a teacher, assign it,

  • and parents and families and students

  • just have to get in the habit of like,

  • hey, in the morning, let's see what's assigned.

  • And then they can go through that,

  • they don't have to upload pictures

  • and all this other stuff that you have to do with worksheets

  • in this time of social distancing.

  • So yeah, I think as a teacher,

  • you have a lot of power to forget to get families on it.

  • So a related question Lauren Buyer from Facebook asks,

  • would any of the teacher platform tools

  • be useful for parents to use at home?

  • - Absolutely, so it particularly during this time

  • when all of you are home schoolers.

  • Absolutely, if you want to use Khan Academy Kids

  • teacher tools, all you need to do is set up an account

  • as a teacher.

  • Or if you're a parent, and you already have an account,

  • you can convert it from the parent section,

  • we have some documentation on our website on how to do that.

  • - From Facebook, Scott Yang asked,

  • and I can help answer this as well.

  • But Caroline, who helped you oh, actually,

  • I read this the wrong way, but I'll answer

  • what I read it the first way.

  • But Caroline, tell us a little bit about

  • how Khan Academy Kids was founded, is what Scott is asking.

  • I read funded the first time I was gonna answer that too.

  • But you go.

  • - Well, so I founded a company called Duck Duck Moose,

  • about 10 years ago with my husband, Michael.

  • And we created 21 educational apps

  • for mostly preschoolers and elementary school,

  • early elementary school.

  • And we did this independently for about eight years,

  • and then in 2016, we joined Khan Academy.

  • So we have been part of Khan Academy since 2016,

  • and focused on now on developing Khan Academy Kids.

  • Although the Duck Duck Moose apps are still out there,

  • and they've been downloaded,

  • I think over 60 or 70 million times.

  • - Yeah, for I've oftentimes espoused

  • my benevolent alien theory,

  • that benevolent aliens are using Khan Academy

  • as a vector to prepare humanity for first contact.

  • And when Caroline and Michael reached out,

  • yes, yes, it's been a while now four years ago and said,

  • we you know, they all had a presentation.

  • It was kind of hilarious

  • and I was like, no, no, I know all about you all.

  • I'm your biggest fan, my kids are, you know,

  • been using Duck Duck Moose.

  • I've always told the Khan Academy team,

  • the only time we're ever gonna get into early learning

  • is if we can be anywhere remotely

  • as good as Duck Duck Moose team.

  • And the fact that y'all were in the office,

  • I was like, why are you here?

  • And then you and Michael said, well, we'd actually

  • like to donate our organization to Khan Academy.

  • And I was like, alright benevolent aliens, thank you,

  • we get the message.

  • - Yeah, to your earlier point about

  • how we're completely free.

  • We couldn't do that when we were not a nonprofit,

  • and when we were independent.

  • And so to us, it was so important for us

  • to be able to focus on the deep education for kids

  • and not to interrupt kids with in app purchases

  • and subscriptions while they're learning.

  • - And to give you, Michael and the team, a lot of credit,

  • you had other financial options

  • where you guys could have gotten bought out

  • and it could have been very, very lucrative for y'all.

  • But this is something that you just decided as humanitarians

  • that you wanted to, you want your life's work

  • to be accessible to as many people as possible.

  • And so Caroline, Michael and her team,

  • they passed up a lot of money

  • that a lot of us would have thought twice about

  • in order to make Khan Academy Kids not for profit ever.

  • And, you know, we were able to, then obviously,

  • they were able to donate their organization to us

  • which was frankly worth many millions,

  • arguably 10s of millions of dollars.

  • And, but then we had to go find funders

  • and that's where at the time was called the Omidyar Network,

  • Pierre Omidyar, Pierre and Pam Omidyar,

  • founder of eBay, famously.

  • His foundation was one of the major funders

  • that allowed us to do this work.

  • And then the Windsong Trust.

  • Those are the two really big funders

  • that allow us to this work.

  • But once again, we're also running it as a deficit

  • at the Khan Academy Kids level.

  • So especially if you're a parent,

  • and you've really enjoyed it, please think about donating.

  • And if you're a corporation, or foundation,

  • please think about helping us to support this work.

  • So from YouTube, Wendy Oliver.

  • This is more of a comment, but it's a good comment.

  • The offline is a great feature for those families

  • who are remote or do not have access to the internet.

  • And Caroline, tell us more about the offline functionality,

  • and you know what devices can this be used on

  • if people just have a cell phone, is that sufficient?

  • - Yes, so we designed Khan Academy Kids to be accessible

  • as widely as possible on Android and iOS,

  • as well as across different devices, phones and tablets.

  • And it was very important for us to design

  • so that folks with intermittent Wi-Fi could use it.

  • So we have an offline mode, where a substantial portion

  • of our content in early literacy and math can be accessed

  • when you're offline.

  • So you can use all of those lessons,

  • for the complete library and the learning path.

  • You do need an internet connection

  • just because of the thousands of lessons,

  • there is no way that we could pack it into a mobile app,

  • nor would you want it all on your device.

  • But we've also designed the technology

  • so that it downloads in small packets

  • when you do need new lessons for your learning path

  • and then it purchased them.

  • So it's really designed to be efficient

  • so that anybody on any devices can use them.

  • - Yeah, and I think that's, you know, does double download,

  • you know, we really obviously, the whole reason

  • why Khan Academy exists, Khan Academy Kids exists

  • is to level the playing field as much as possible.

  • And there's all sorts of inequity right now

  • in device access,

  • and we're trying to work with others to solve it.

  • But Khan Academy Kids goes, arguably further I mean,

  • the Khan Academy main app, so to speak

  • also has some ways to download content,

  • but y'all do a really great job.

  • It's as long as you have at least a reasonable smartphone

  • and have some time to download some of the materials

  • that that you can go pretty far.

  • There is a question about from Susan Garcia Dominguez

  • on YouTube.

  • Is it available on laptops or is it only tablets and phones?

  • - It is only on mobile devices right now,

  • and the reason for that is that we found in testing

  • with young children that the form factor of mobile devices

  • where they have the touchscreen

  • that they can directly manipulate

  • is much more effective for learning.

  • It's tough for the two year old and three year olds,

  • to navigate, before they can read on a computer

  • with a with a mouse.

  • - Yeah, and even the five and six year olds.

  • I mean, they can do it kind of, but it's,

  • and that leads to another question from Nikio on YouTube.

  • I feel like I know a lot of these folks

  • cause we have good question askers who show up here,

  • Susanna, Nikio, Scott, almost every day.

  • But hi Sal, Caroline one of the best studying methods

  • while simultaneously using Khan Academy.

  • You know, I'll interpret that is how does Khan Academy Kids,

  • you know, transition to Khan Academy.

  • I have a view there, but I'd love your take on

  • what it is today and what could be in the future.

  • - Yeah, I think right now, it's, we cover up

  • through the end of first grade

  • and then Khan Academy does take

  • we're hoping to scale up through

  • the end of second grade at least.

  • And then Khan Academy takes over from there,

  • but we're building those those critical skills,

  • in pre literacy and math before you get into Khan Academy.

  • - Yeah, and if you go to Khan Academy,

  • there is content on kindergarten, first grade,

  • second grade content, but it does require to use a mouse.

  • And it has things like select all that apply.

  • And so we view that content, especially in a world

  • where Khan Academy Kids exists,

  • that's valuable if you're a fourth grader, a third grader,

  • or if you have a student who needs to remediate

  • some of that content or review some of that content.

  • But ideally, if you are, if you're working on

  • first grade standards, or below Khan Academy Kids

  • is the place to go.

  • And yeah, I hope second grade and you know,

  • third grade could be an interesting thing too,

  • if we have the resources to do it,

  • to think about cause Khan Academy Kids really is,

  • I think hitting the sweet spot for all those kids needs.

  • I see that my own son when I put them on Khan Academy,

  • they're using the mouse, you know, the motor skills

  • to kind of click on the radio button

  • is a little bit more difficult,

  • than and obviously with Khan Academy Kids, yes, no problem.

  • No problem at all.

  • See more questions I'm getting on,

  • so there is the other questions.

  • This is from Madeleine Bordwell on youtube

  • I love that you see the Super Simple songs

  • their interactive component cheers to you and your team.

  • And that's a good reason to talk more about all the content

  • and the partners that we've been able to (mumbles).

  • - We're so grateful for the partners,

  • a lot of our content is homegrown.

  • So we have our own books that are illustrated

  • by our own illustrators, but we collaborate

  • with children's book authors to author original

  • an original series of books.

  • And then we also collaborate with Super Simple Songs,

  • which is an amazing animation company that has,

  • I think, I don't know how many billions of views on YouTube

  • but favorite nursery rhymes and great animations

  • coupled with these songs.

  • And so we integrate them into Khan Academy Kids

  • and then make them interactive.

  • So we'll use the Muffin Man song

  • and then have children do activities around that.

  • In addition, we partner with National Geographic

  • and bellwether which have nonfiction books on animals

  • and nature and so that's how we have

  • some of our rocket science content.

  • - So more questions here, Maria, he says from YouTube

  • Sal, are you okay, you look tired.

  • - (chuckles) Are you okay?

  • - I think it's just irrelevant

  • because Caroline looks so energetic and well lit.

  • And yeah, I'm looking at myself now, and I'm like,

  • yeah, that guy, he is something.

  • I think it's all relative I think

  • what you don't see Carolina I'm fine.

  • - Is my background, I do circle time here,

  • so I have to look weak and you have a lot of energy.

  • - I think Maria is onto something

  • I need to introspect a little bit.

  • Rusika tell him Sadie from YouTube,

  • I literally did my Khan Academy homework right now,

  • love the detail videos.

  • All that good to hear that Rusika.

  • Let's see other there is someone, there is folks

  • Scott asking a lot of questions.

  • Hey, Caroline would you like to invite Sophie

  • into a live stream and Sal someday?

  • I guess supporters yes, we'd love to have Sophie.

  • - We would love Sophie everywhere.

  • - She will only reinforce me looking

  • like I'm tired and aging.

  • - Oh, yeah, she's another level.

  • She does all of our parent and teacher webinars as well.

  • - Marie, you've confirmed some of my insecurities,

  • so I don't know, I'm feeling a little.

  • I sometimes like to think that,

  • I'm more young and sprite than I am.

  • Let's see, there is a lot of questions here,

  • but first, we're out of time.

  • I'm always I'm having a good time with these conversations,

  • until someone points out that I look old and tired.

  • But Caroline, tell us a little bit more.

  • I mean, what are your hopes, I mean, just to finish this up,

  • what are your hopes and dreams for Khan Academy Kids?

  • - Yeah, I think we are just grateful right now

  • that we have a role to play in our way.

  • To help families and teachers

  • during this time in particular,

  • so we're kind of just very, very focused

  • on the current moment and everything that we can do.

  • This new teacher tools is extremely exciting for us to see

  • we are already seeing districts and teachers use it,

  • from California all the way across to New Jersey.

  • And I think we were just at the beginning

  • of our classroom entry, and we'll continue that.

  • As well as with new features for teachers and classrooms,

  • and then we're very excited to continue with the content.

  • We're seeing the kids grow and they wanna grow more with us,

  • and so, continuing on to second grade.

  • - Awesome, well, I just wanna thank everyone

  • I wanna remind everyone go try, Khan Academy Kids,

  • even if you don't have early learners at home,

  • proselytize it tell other people

  • because it's a shame that, anyway,

  • tell them about Khan Academy (mumbles)

  • Tell so many families, especially families of need

  • that don't realize that there are resources out there,

  • for them and their children

  • and for their children's teachers to keep folks learning

  • and not only are they free,

  • but there's more research studies done

  • on Khan Academy and Khan Academy Kids,

  • that almost all of those for pay products,

  • that frankly, are spending probably more on marketing

  • than they are on product development and content development

  • and research and development.

  • So get the word out, it's really a shame

  • that people aren't accessing these things,

  • or that they are paying for things that are inferior,

  • frankly.

  • And but I wanna remind everyone,

  • the way that we're able to do this,

  • and kind of do what's right on a principled level

  • is through donation.

  • So if you're benefiting you, your family

  • or if you just want other kids around the country

  • and eventually the world to benefit from Khan Academy Kids.

  • If you, your children, your students

  • or you want other people around the world

  • to benefit from Khan Academy.

  • Please think about making a donation

  • it makes a huge difference.

  • You know, one way to think about it,

  • if you were to go to you know, a not as good

  • for pay product, it could easily cost $10 a month

  • five dollars a month.

  • If you're able to support Khan Academy,

  • those types of levels.

  • It makes a difference and allows us

  • to support a lot lot more folks.

  • So thank you so much for joining Caroline, thank you so much

  • you, Michael and your entire team.

  • Really amazing work and, you know,

  • thank you for dedicating your life to this.

  • This is you did not have to do this,

  • this is not the way that the world normally works.

  • But y'all, decided to do what's right for frankly, humanity.

  • - Yeah, we're grateful for the opportunity.

  • - Thanks, everyone, and we'll see you all next week.

  • We have a lot of really good guests next week.

  • We'll and you'll we'll be sending out emails and stuff.

  • But you know, we have a really cool folks

  • like Angela Duckworth and other folks next week

  • to talk about grit and resilience.

  • So as see y'all later, have a great weekend

  • and take care of yourself.

  • Clearly Maria thinks I need to myself.

  • (laughs)

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