WHITE HOUSE FOR US THIS MORNING.

SHANNON, THANKS SO MUCH.

>>> LET'S WALK THROUGH SOME OF

THE POLLING THAT JOE WAS TALKING

ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.

IN THE NEWEST MONMOUTH

UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL, JOE

BIDEN HOLDS AN 11-POINT LEAD

OVER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

52% TO 41%.

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN CONTINUES

TO DO WELL AMONG KEY VOTING

GROUPS, INCLUDING VOTERS 65 AND

OLDER AND WOMEN.

THE PRESIDENT LEADS AMONG VOTERS

50 TO 64 YEARS OLD, AS WELL AS

WITH WHITE VOTERS WITHOUT A

COLLEGE DEGREE.

JOE BIDEN ALSO LEADS PRESIDENT

TRUMP IN THE KEY BATTLEGROUND

STATES OF WISCONSIN, OHIO, AND

ARIZONA, ALL STATES THE

PRESIDENT WON IN 2016.

ACCORDING TO NEW POLLS FROM FOX

NEWS, BIDEN IS UP NINE POINTS IN

WISCONSIN, 49% TO 40%.

IN OHIO, BIDEN NARROWLY LEADS BY

TWO POINTS, 45% TO 43%.

THAT'S WITHIN THE MARGIN OF

ERROR.

THEY ARE TIED THERE.

IN ARIZONA, SIMILAR STORY, WHERE

BIDEN IS UP FOUR POINTS, 46% TO

42%.

IN THIS STATE'S SENATE RACE,

DEMOCRAT MARK KELLY IS NOW

LEADING REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT

SENATOR MARTHA McSALLY, 50% TO

37%.

A 13-POINT SPREAD ACCORDING TO

FOX NEWS.

THINGS ALSO GETTING CLOSE IN

TEXAS, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST

QUINNIPIAC POLL.

ONLY ONE POINT SEPARATES THE

CONTENDERS.

DONALD TRUMP UP 44%.

JOE BIDEN AT 43%.

THEY ARE TIED RIGHT NOW IN THE

STATE OF TEXAS.

YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT DONALD

TRUMP WON TEXAS IN 2016 BY TEN

POINTS.

THIS, JOE, THESE POLLS WE WALKED

THROUGH, COMBINED WITH OTHERS,

IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING REPORTS OF

PEOPLE BEING CONCERNED WHEN THEY

LOOK AT THE MAP AROUND PRESIDENT

TRUMP.

>> WELL, THEY HAVE A REASON TO

BE CONCERNED.

WILLIE, IT IS VERY INTERESTING

THAT RICHARD HAASS, EARLY IN

THIS PANDEMIC, HAD A GREAT

INSIGHT.

THE INSIGHT WAS THAT THE

PANDEMIC IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE

HISTORY, IT IS GOING TO

ACCELERATE HISTORY.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE STUDIED POLLS

AND POLITICS FOR YEARS HAVE

SAID, RIGHTLY, THAT THREE STATES

IN THE SUN BELT WERE GOING TO

SHIFT AND BECOME MORE BLUE OVER

TIME.

THEY WERE GOING TO GO FROM

RELIABLY RED STATES TO PURPLE

STATES TO BLUE STATES.

THOSE THREE STATES, GEORGIA,

TEXAS, AND ARIZONA.

NOW, NONE OF US, THREE, FOUR

MONTHS AGO, ACTUALLY THOUGHT

THAT THOSE THREE STATES WERE

POSSIBILITIES FOR A DEMOCRATIC

PICKUP.

BUT YOU LOOK AT THE PANDEMIC.

YOU LOOK AT THE PROTESTS.

YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC

PROBLEMS.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE FAULT

LINES ALREADY IN 2020 INSTEAD OF

2024, WHEN, YOU KNOW, I'M

EXPECTING IN 2024 THAT THOSE

STATES ARE GOING TO BE LIKE

VIRGINIA AND ARE GOING TO AT

LEAST BE PURPLE.

AS WE GO INTO A 2024 RACE, JUST

BECAUSE OF DEMOGRAPHICS IN

TEXAS, DEMOGRAPHICS IN ARIZONA

ESPECIALLY.

BUT WE'RE HAVING AN ACCELERATION

OF THIS POLITICAL PROCESS.

YOU'RE NOW SEEING DONALD TRUMP,

INSTEAD OF FIGHTING IN

WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN,

PENNSYLVANIA, AND FLORIDA, AND

ASSUMING THAT FLORIDA IS GOING

TO BE AN EASIER WIN FOR HIM,

WHICH MANY REPUBLICANS EXPECTED,

NOW, HE'S LOSING IN THOSE

STATES.

MOST POLLS SHOW HIM -- THIS FOX

NEWS POLL SHOWS HIM LOSING BY

NINE IN WISCONSIN.

I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S

OUTSIDE -- A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE

OF -- AN OUTLIER.

BUT YOU LOOK AT WISCONSIN.

YOU LOOK AT MICHIGAN.

YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA.

YOU LOOK AT FLORIDA.

I THINK MOST PEOPLE RIGHT NOW

WOULD PUT ALL OF THOSE STATES

LEAN DEMOCRAT, BASED ON THE

POLLS.

SUDDENLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

GEORGIA, WHICH IS BASICALLY A

DRAW, ACCORDING TO SOME RECENT

POLLS.

TEXAS, WHICH WE NOW, I THINK,

HAVE HAD THREE POLLS IN THE LAST

MONTH THAT SHOWED THAT STATE TO

BE THE MARGIN OF ERROR.

THEN YOU'VE GOT ARIZONA, SAME

THING HAPPENING THERE, WILLIE,

WHERE DONALD TRUMP IS NOW DOWN

FOUR POINTS IN THIS FOX NEWS

POLL.

HE IS DOWN IN MOST FLORIDA POLLS

THAT YOU SEE.

HE IS STARTING TO REALLY BLEED

SUPPORT IN THE SOLID SOUTH, IN

THE SOLID SUN BELT.

THERE'S SO MANY REASONS FOR

THIS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT OVER

THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS.

IF YOU'RE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,

YOU CAN'T TRY TO EXPAND THE MAP.

AS I THINK JOHN HEILEMANN SAID A

COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THEY WERE

PLACING ADS IN IOWA.

THEY WERE PLACING ADS IN THE

PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA.

SO THAT'S WHAT -- AT LEAST AT

THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, INSTEAD

OF LOOKING TO EXPAND THE MAP,

THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO HOLD ON

TO GEORGIA, TEXAS, ARIZONA,

FLORIDA, STATES THAT SHOULD

COMFORTABLY BE IN DONALD TRUMP'S

MARGIN

MARGIN, COLUMN RIGHT NOW.

>> WE'LL REMIND PEOPLE THAT

PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE

MUCH OF A MARGIN OF ERROR TO

WORK WITH.

HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE IN

2016.

WON BY A HANDFUL OF VOTES IN

MICHIGAN, HANDFUL OF VOTES IN

WISCONSIN.

HE HAD NO MARGIN OF ERROR TO

WORK WITH THERE IF HE WANTS TO

BE RE-ELECTED.

NOW, HE'S HAVING TO NOT ONLY WIN

THOSE STATES BUT COVER HIS FLANK

IN PLACES HE THOUGHT HE COULD

CHALK UP, LIKE GEORGIA, TEXAS,

AND ARIZONA.

MICHAEL STEELE, IF YOU WERE IN

YOUR OLD JOB, PUT THAT HAT ON,

RUNNING THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL

COMMITTEE, WHAT'D WOULD YOU THIN

AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, AT THE

POLLS, FOR NOT JUST PRESIDENT

TRUMP BUT INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN

SENATORS LIKE McSALLY?

>> I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT MY

DOWN BALLOT.

I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT

GOVERNOR RACES.

I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT STATE

LEGISLATIVE RACES.

IF YOU HAVE THE KIND OF SURGE

FROM THE GRASSROOTS ACROSS THE

COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY AMONG

INDEPENDENT, CENTER-RIGHT,

CENTER-LEFT INDIVIDUALS, THAT

NOW BEGINS TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON

WHAT YOUR STATE LEGISLATIVE

CAMPAIGNS WILL RUN INTO.

THAT PARTICULAR BUZZSAW COULD BE

VERY DAMAGING.

AS ONE OF THE SILENT WEAPONS

THAT WE USED IN 2010 WAS

FOCUSING ON THOSE STATE

LEGISLATIVE RACES.

WE WERE LOOKING AT AN ENERGY

PUSH FROM THE BOTTOM UP.

SORT OF HELP US WIN

GOVERNORSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE

THAT.

YOU NOW HAVE THE PROBLEM WHERE

YOU'VE GOT THE TOP OF THE TICKET

THAT COULD BE A DRAG ON THOSE

RACES THAT ARE ON THE MARGINS.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE HOLDING

THE STATE LEGISLATURE BY THREE

SEATS, OR YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL

TO PICK UP THE LEGISLATURE BY

SIX SEATS.

NOW THE RACES TAKE ON A

DIFFERENT COMPLEXION.

SO THE PARTY IS GOING TO BE

COORDINATING AS CLOSELY AS IT

CAN WITH THE CAMPAIGNS AT THE

GRASSROOTS LEVEL.

GOVERNORS RACES, COUNTY

EXECUTIVE RACES, AND THE LIKE,