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Hey, it's Marie Forleo, and you are watching MarieTV, the place to be to create a business

and life you love.

This is Zach Bliss.

He works with us here on MarieTV.

Hello.

He zhooshes, makes everything really, really gorgeous.

I've been designing for you for how many years now?

Years.

Years.

And it's been a delight.

And he's a really dear friend.

Yeah.

So we have a lot of fun.

A lot of fun.

Anyway, this is the MarieTV call-in show where we actually call you guys and we get to answer

some questions live.

And I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

So let's rock it.

Our first caller.

Hello, La Shawn speaking.

La Shawn!

Hello, La Shawn.

It's Marie Forleo, how are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm so good.

So if you hear some people in the background, we have our MarieTV crew here and we are so

excited that you're on.

La Shawn, tell us your question and we'll do our best to help you out.

Okay, awesome.

Thank you so much.

I'm so excited to be talking to you.

Okay, so I have been a hairstylist and a makeup artist for 20 years.

And starting in 2010 I'm on the journey to transform the way I was dealing with life.

Since then it hasn't stopped and my goals and my life have changed.

I now want to transition from being a hairstylist to being solely a makeup artist and a relationship

coach.

And there's a part of me that feels that it's too much.

I fear that I won't have time to do both and will people take me seriously?

And lately I've been like going back and forth about it and feeling really stuck.

So, help me.

Yes.

I love it.

Well, as you know, I'm a multipassionate entrepreneur.

Many of the folks here in MarieTV land are, and so many folks in our audience are.

So I have some questions for you, La Shawn.

When you look at those two possibilities in terms of focusing on relationships and focusing

on being solely a makeup artist, if you look in your heart, which one to you feels more

expansive?

The one that you're just like “oh, my God.

This is a huge yes.”

Relationship coaching.

Woo!

Okay, good.

So the fear probably that's popping up, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that

for so long, right, you've been in the beauty world and so you've got some level of comfort

there?

Yes.

Yes.

And so it seems to me just listening to you that, you know, focusing in on being a makeup

artist is a little safer, at least in your mind at this point.

Would that be accurate?

Yes.

With the financial stability part, yes.

Yes.

Okay, cool.

So I want to give you some possibilities.

You know, in terms of you feeling that that could be too much, that is possible.

But I'll tell you this.

There was a period in my particular career where – probably about five to seven years

where I did multiple things.

So I was in the dance and fitness world, I was a Nike athlete, I was running my coaching

business and starting to understand how to build that from the ground up.

And so all of those things were happening simultaneously.

And what that did for me, even though I consciously knew that none of them would grow as big if,

you know – as they would if I would just focus on one, I just wasn't ready to.

So I want to offer this to you.

You know, rather than having to make a hard choice right now, what if you gave yourself

permission to go more fully into makeup so that you can have those finances coming in,

you can keep building that wealth, because I think for me, especially for woman, and

I always say this, taking care of the money is one of the most important things that we

can do for our long-term health, our happiness, our stability, our ability to contribute our

gifts to the world.

It's vital.

And at the same time you can start developing your comfort level, your skill, everything

that you need in terms of being a relationship coach.

But you don't have to go all in at once.

Does that make sense?

It totally does.

So you can dip your toe in the water, so to speak, and then perhaps in a year or two you

can reevaluate and say, “You know what?

Do I really still want to keep going with this relationship coach thing?”

And then you can start perhaps transitioning yourself, you know, from doing it 20% of the

time, 30% of the time, 40% of the time.

And you might reach a point where you get so confident in your skills and your ability

to bring in income and clients from that work that you're like, “Oh, I'm really ready

to make this transition.”

Mmm, okay.

Yes.

Thank you so much.

That totally makes sense.

Yeah.

This is a way to mitigate the risk, and it's also a way to help yourself build confidence

without pulling out the financial rug from underneath you.

Because from what you've shared and, again, I'd love to hear if you disagree with this,

it doesn't feel like to me that you're like, “Oh, I can't stand the beauty world anymore.

I'm just done with it.

I have to get out.

It's toxic.”

I took a look at your site, actually, and you've really – you've got so much great

energy around you that I think you still have more to contribute in that world.

Would you agree?

I totally agree.

I mean, I love doing – don't get me wrong, I love doing hair.

It's wonderful.

But I want to do – I want to focus only on makeup, because I want more freedom in

my life, and financial freedom as well.

Yes.

And although if I just do makeup, not relying on the hair will kind of hurt me financially,

but at the same time I do believe in going for my dream.

So I'm just going to go that route.

Yes.

So another assignment I would give to you is to take a look at your financial goals

really seriously and understand exactly where you are right now in terms of your net worth.

You know, we have some great MarieTVs that we'll put links to below.

If you haven't seen them, I would suggest to go back and watch them so you have a really

clear understanding of your financial picture right now.

And then you can use that to support yourself as you move into doing makeup.

Because I can hear, right, you might take a little hit on your money, at least initially,

but I hear confidence in you that you'll be able to build that up fairly quickly and

then build in the relationship stuff on the side.

I know you can do this.

And here's the best thing, La Shawn, you're gonna discover what's gonna be the best

route, how fast you should go, from executing.

You're not gonna come up with it in your mind.

You're gonna come up with it from actually doing it, and then you're gonna be able

to navigate as you go, and you're gonna feel like a rockstar doing it.

Yes.

Thank you so much.

I do want to say that I am a B-Schooler.

I'm so grateful to be speaking to you right now.

Thank you so much for taking my question.

Oh, absolutely.

And La Shawn, since you're a B-Schooler, girl, come back this next round and do it

again live.

Come on back.

You have it for free, so you can take all of these new ideas and this new focus and

we can help you supercharge it.

I will do that.

Most definitely.

Awesome.

Thank you so much for your question.

We're cheering you on, we love you, and thanks for calling in.

Thank you.

Have a wonderful day.

You too.

Bye-bye.

Bye, La Shawn.

Yay!

That's so interesting.

You know, sort of like getting rid of a business to pursue another one.

But you've done that a few times.

Yeah, but I think – here's the thing.

A lot of people see things in black and white.

And some people thrive best that way.

You know, they have to kind of burn all the bridges behind them.

That's the only way they're gonna be able to focus on this new thing coming up.

But there's many of us, and I'm one of these people, I like transitions.

I like to do things gradually.

I like to have a sense of financial security underneath me.

And sometimes that means, yeah, I'll work a little bit longer because I have more kind

of plates spinning in the air.

Yeah.

But it gives me so much more jet fuel to take off from.

Good morning.

Is this Mandy?

Yes, it is.

What's up, Mandy?

It's Marie Forleo and the whole MarieTV crew.

How you doing?

I'm great, Marie.

How are you?

I'm so good.

We're so excited to have you on the show.

So let us know your question, and we will do our best to help you out.

Oh, absolutely.

Well, I – first of all, thank you.

I've been following you for years.

I'm a huge fan.

Aw, thank you so much.

I'm an entrepreneur, an artist, and have been doing this for way over 20 years.

And I do okay, but truly I'm a real creative at heart, and that is my passion and that's

what I'm best at.

And what I struggle with is finding help with marketing.

I feel like marketing to me is like trudging through quicksand in the dark.

And I also know it's just not the best use of my time or my talent.

But I've struggled with how do I find the best marketing help?

It's a great question.

And Mandy, first of all, I want to congratulate you for doing what you've been doing for

20 years.

As a creative, I just admire and appreciate that.

Every time I meet artists of any kind, folks who do the kind of work that you do, singers,

musicians, writers, I just – you're my people.

So I just want to acknowledge you for that.

Thank you.

And two, I also want to tell you, you are so not alone.

And especially when it comes to the marketing bit.

Right?

And feeling this sense of resistance.

Yeah.

What I'm laughing right here, and I see – I just want to let you know, because I

know you can't see us.

But I see Elsa in the back raising her hand, who is my stylist, I see Zack who's sitting

next to me right here, who's a designer going – they're nodding their head and

raising their hands that, yes, the marketing piece is hard for them as well.

Yeah.

So here's what I want to share with you.

One, you want to ask yourself, are you happy with the level that your business is at right

now?

And I heard what you said about, you know, you said you're doing pretty good.

So I'm curious to hear if you feel like you want to see more growth in terms of your

financial revenue, in terms of your profit, in terms of your work getting out there in

the world.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Yes on all of those.

Okay, great.

That's awesome.

So that being said, what I think is gonna help you most is, first, not even finding

someone to help with the marketing.

We can get to that.

But I also truly believe in my heart that having a reframe around marketing itself,