I'm Feifei.

Rob: And hello, I'm Rob. Hey, Feifei.

Did you see the match last night?

Feifei: The match? No, Rob.

I had better things to do!

Rob: Oh, you should have done.

My local team beat Manchester United

3-0! It was a giant-killing!

Feifei: Well I'm glad I didn't watch it - who

wants to see giants being killed?

Rob: Feifei, nobody was killed and

there were no real giants.

The giant is the team that

is usually stronger, more powerful

or skilful than the other team -

and the killing happens

when the weaker or less skilful team

beats them. And that's what

happened last night.

It was brilliant!

Feifei: I see. So a giant-killing describes

a situation when a weaker or less skilful

person or team beats a stronger or

more skilful opponent.

Rob: Yep. And we call the winning team

'giant killers' - so my team can

be called 'giant killers'!

Feifei: So is this phrase used

for sporting competitions?

Rob: Yes it is. It's not just used

in football - although the giant-killing

in the game last

night was amazing! I mean, did

I mention the score was 3-0?

Feifei: OK calm down, Rob. Let's hear

some other examples

of the phrase 'giant-killing'...

We're celebrating our village

cricket team's giant-killing over

a professional county team!

There was a giant-killing at

the tennis match today - a brand new

player beat the third-seeded

player in straight sets!

The non-league team have become

giant killers in the FA Cup - they could go

all the way to the final.

Feifei: This is The English We Speak from

BBC Learning English and

we're hearing about

the sporting expression 'giant-killing' -

that's when a strong or skilful player or

team is beaten by a less strong opponent.

The winners are called 'giant killers'.

So a giant-killing is quite an achievement?

Rob: It sure is. It's unexpected but

it's great when it happens.

Feifei: I understand, Rob - it comes as a

surprise because you're so used to losing!

Rob: Never mind, Feifei. If you're not

a football fan, you'll never understand.

Feifei: Hmm, I suppose this programme is

a bit like a giant killing.

Rob: Why's that then?

Feifei: The weaker, less skilful presenter

beats the stronger, more skilful presenter

by getting more lines to stay in the script.

Rob: Errr, I don't think so, Feifei.

You always have more to say.

Feifei: That's true. Now, isn't it your turn

to make the tea?

Rob: OK, if you say so. See you later.

Feifei: Ha! 1-0 to me. Bye.