to send in military to stop the protests.

Thoughts on that?

You know, Ellen, I have to give thought to him.

Because he is the president.

But I just wish, in an ideal world, I didn't.

Because for every single second that I give energy to him,

it's wasted energy.

This president is a lost cause.

And that's why it, again, will take people of good conscience

to stand up and say, enough is enough.

And in the same way that he allowed Dr. Fauci and Dr.

Birx to give credibility to the information we were receiving

on COVID-19, I just wish that he would do that

to this conversation.

He has an inability to empathize with anything.

And this situation is no different.

So when you're talking about bringing a military force--

I said this yesterday and I'll say it again.

America is a tinderbox right now.

And his tongue is a match.

And every time he speaks, he throws another match

on his tinder box.

And he's making it worse.

And so I just--

it's truly my hope that somebody of good conscience,

whether it's from the Senate or someone else of stature,

will stand in the gap and speak the things that America

needs to hear right now.

Because this is not a partisan issue.

I've been working with Governor Kemp since Friday

on how we are coordinating and addressing

the protests in Atlanta.

It's not a partisan issue.

This is a people issue.

And I just wish that he would stop.

It's not incumbent on you to be doing this.

But you should know that you are stepping into that gap.

By being on our show, by speaking out,

you are stepping into that vacuum.

And I think you should be aware how important

and how healing your words have been for all of us.

And how necessary.

I mean, obviously, we're talking about a lack of leadership.

But it's frightening to me.

And it is not a partisan thing.

Even these peaceful protesters who were in Washington,

and they throw tear gas so he can

go get a photo op with a Bible in his hand,

no one is saying or telling him to stop.

And the reality is this.

When there is this much anger in this country,

it's all of our problem.

We're talking about the trauma and the post-traumatic stress

that young men of color are feeling in this country.

It explodes.

And you can't put your head in the sand

and act like it's not an issue for all of us.

Because we're watching in real time

this explosion on our streets across America.

And so it behooves all of us to care about this.

Because it is impacting all of us.

And it will continue to impact us in the same way

that the Civil Rights Movement was just that.

It was a movement.

It was a long movement.

And it went on for years, and years, and years.

If we're going to have a true movement for change

in this country, we at least want

it to be a peaceful, purposeful movement.

But for us to stay in this state of chaos

with a president who is continuing

to do harm to us as a country, it's simply not sustainable.

Yeah, it's not going to go anywhere but bad.

I guess in conclusion, where do we go from here?

What do you think is the next step?

I think the next step is for us to succinctly articulate

what it is that we want.

We know what our pain is.

We know what our hurt is.

But now we've got to articulate what the point of satisfaction

is.

And that's the work that I look forward

to leading with the people on the ground in Atlanta

and with our activists in being able to succinctly say,

this is what we need to see happen in America.

We know that in the same way the Obama-Biden administration

left a pandemic handbook, next to that handbook

was one on policing in the 21st century.

And it created a very clear framework

on how you create trust and you build trust in communities

by not having the first interaction

with police officers and young people

be when somebody is chasing someone down the street.

We have something.

We have a foundation to build upon.

I think it's just incumbent upon all of us

to now finish the work.

Well, I will be that platform for you and for anybody

else who wants to come in and tell us

what you need, what you want, what

we can do to help make change.

And I think just like Ellen said--

sorry to interrupt, Ellen.

But this isn't a moment in time.

This has to be ongoing for us.

And Ellen and I, as two privileged white people,

have to make that commitment.

And part of that commitment as our season is ending

is that, next year, you be a part of our voice.

And you help us.

And we help you to get the message out that

needs to be gotten out.

Thank you.

Anytime you want to talk to us. thank you so much.

And stay safe.

We'll see you soon.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll be back.