Katie Holmes: I'm really excited

Kim Hastreiter:我真的很興奮

to sit down with all these women.

可以和這些女性一同坐在這裡

It's always interesting to read about a person or have an idea of someone and then get to the bottom of how they became who they became.

知道一個人的故事或想法總是非常有趣 深究他們如何變成他們自己

Kim Hastreiter: I am sort of a cultural anthropologist.

Kim Hastreiter: 我算是一位文化人類學家

I am an artist.

我是位藝術家

I do have a magazine also called "Paper."

我有本雜誌叫"Paper"

Jane Rosenthal: I'm Jane Rosenthal

我是Jane Rosenthal

and I produce movies and television.

我拍電影和電視

Katie: Just say your name and what you do.

Katie: 說一下你的名字和你的職業

Christine Barberich: My name is Christine

我的名字是 Christine

and I'm the editor and chief of Refinery29.

我是Refinery29的編輯和老闆

Jeanne Yang: My name is Jeanne Yang.

我的名字是 Jeanne Yang

I am a stylist and a co-designer and co-partner of Holmes & Yang, a clothing line.

我是位設計師 還是一家服飾Holmes & Yang的共同設計師和合夥人

Cornelia: This is my mother Jill Abramson.

Cornelia: 這是我媽媽 Jill Abramson

She is the executive editor of the "New York Times."

她是紐約時報的主編

The first woman to hold that position, to be in that role.

第一個女性擔任那個職位, 那個角色

Renee Robinson: My name is Renee Robinson.

我的名字是 Renee Robinson

and I am a dancer.

我是位舞者

Katie: What shapes your identity first?

Katie:什麼東西導致現在的你?

Being a woman, your career, or being a New Yorker?

身為女人 天生賦予的職業 還是身為紐約客?

Renee Robinson: It would probably be

Renee Robinson: 那可能會是

being a woman.

當一位女人

Kim Hastreiter: I mean New York is really important to me,

Kim Hastreiter: 我意思是對我來說紐約很重要

I am a New Yorker, I love New York,

我是紐約客 我愛紐約

but also I think the thing that I live for

且我想我生活的目的

is inspiration.

是啟發人心

Jill Abramson: I think probably being

Jill Abramson: 我想可能是當個

a New Yorker has had the biggest influence on me.

紐約客是對我說最大的影響

Christine Barberich: Definitely my career.

Christine Barberich: 這絕對是我的職業

I always wanted to be a writer and an editor,

我總是想成為作家和編輯

you know, I never ever doubted that for a second.

我不曾遲疑一秒鐘

I think it's just like who I am.

我想這就是我自己

Jane Rosenthal: I think my daughters

Jane Rosenthal: 我想我的女兒們

shape me most.

影響我最大

Katie: Well they're lucky.

Katie: 那麼她們非常幸運

Renee Robinson: Female leaders.

Renee Robinson: 女性領導人

Those were my examples.

那些是我的例子

In the dance business, you know,

以跳舞為業 你知道的

there are a lot of male choreographers,

有很多男性的編舞家

a lot of male artistic directors,

很多男性藝術導演

but I was surrounded by all these female leaders.

但是我的周圍都是女性領導人

Katie: What would you say was one of the most difficult times for you

Katie: 對你來說 第一次最困難的時刻是什麼?

and how did you get over it and how did you

還有你怎麼克服它的

believe that led you to where you are now?

且相信克服困難 會成就現在的你?

Kim Hastreiter: When I tried to do amazing things in these big magazines

Kim Hastreiter: 當我試著為那些大雜誌社做出驚人的事

they always fell flat because I would come

他們總是感到無趣 因為我可能想到

with an amazing idea and then it would

一個驚人的想法 且可能會一下

all go away and then it would come back unrecognizable to me so I was like

全部消失 對我來說這變得難以回復 所以我

the only way to do it I have to do it myself,

唯一的辦法就是我自己去做

so I said "we have to do a magazine."

所以我說"我們必須創立一本雜誌"

Jill Abramson: When I was Washington bureau chief for "The Times"

Jill Abramson: 當我是華盛頓地區的"the Times"的主管

the executive editor of "The Times"

"the Times" 的主編

at that point was kind of a

在那個時候是個

domineering strong personality editor

個性很驕傲的編輯

who I didn't get along with too well.

是個我沒辦法好好相處的人

Jane O'Connor: He would offer Jill other jobs at

Jane O'Connor: 他能給Jill其他工作在

"The Times" and I was "yes, yes, take it, do that,

"the Times" 我心想" 對 對 接受它 做就對了

you'll be happy,"

你會很開心的"

and Jill "No, this is the job I want,

不過 Jill說 " 不 這是我想要的工作

it's the job I deserve,

我值得做的工作"

and I'm gonna just tough it out."

我就是要堅持下去

Katie: And how long did this go on?

Katie: 那麼持續了多久?

Jill Abramson: For about 2 years,

Jill Abramson: 大約兩年

it didn't go on and on.

事情並沒有很順利下去

Katie: That's long.

Katie: 時間真是長

Jeanne Yang: I started working for a department store in their management training program

Jeanne Yang: 我開始為一家百貨公司的管理訓練計畫工作

because I thought that was

因為我以為那是

the only thing you could really do in clothing.

唯一讓你真正接觸服裝的事

I hated my job and I got laid off

我討厭我的工作 然後我被辭退了

and I was really upset about it

我當時真的心情很糟

and my older brother pulled me aside and said

我的哥哥拉了我一把 對我說

"have you ever thought of actually doing something

你有沒有想過真正做了一件事情

that you want to do, that you really like doing,

你真正想要做 你真的很喜歡做的事

because things will come easier when

因為事情會變得更簡單

you really like doing what you're doing."

當你真正喜歡你做的事

Jane Rosenthal: I will say that as

Jane Rosenethal: 我會說身為

a working woman I was told that

一位女性工作者 我被教導

I could do anything, be anything I wanted

我可以做任何事情 成為任何我想成為的人

and I actually believed that

我真的相信了

and I believed that for so long

且相信好長一段時間了

and it really wasn't until

真的直到

the further along I got in my career

我職涯走得更進一步了

where I realized there would be times

我了解到將可能會有時機

I felt that I would be asked to be at

我感到我會

the table or part of a board or something more

參加董事會 或是成為董事會的一員 或者更高的成就

because I was a woman

因為我是一名女性

and not because I really had

而不是因為我真的有

the authority to be there.

權利才坐在那裏

Katie: What advice would you give

Katie: 你會給怎麼樣的建議

a young girl, you know, moving to

給年經女孩們 你知道的 剛搬到

a big city right now who maybe

大城市的人 或許還不知道

doesn't know what she's good at yet?

她擅長做什麼?

Kim Hastreiter: I know that everyone can't

Kim Hastreiter: 我知道每個人不能

do this, but I always say like

這麼做 但我總是說

when kids want to go to graduate school,

當小孩想要去唸研究所

they want to keep going to school,

他們想要保持上學

I say instead of paying to go to school

我會說 與其禱告能夠上學

just go and work somewhere for

不如去某個地方工作

a little or free and just work for

一陣子 或者免費替那些

someone that you admire.

你崇拜的人工作

Jeanne Yang: When you are in the environment

Jeanne Yang: 當你在那個工作環境下

of a workplace you can gain more knowledge

你可以學得更多

than sometimes in a classroom.

有時更勝於在學校學的

Jane Rosenthal: I certainly have learned more

Jane Rosenthal: 我很確定我學到更多

by my failures than my successes

從我的失敗中 比起從成功學到的

and I probably had more failures than successes.

或許我失敗多於成功吧

Renee Robinson: If you continue to learn

Renee Robinson : 如果你保持學習

about life outside of the dance studio,

關於人生這件事 在舞蹈工作室的外面

outside of the dance world

在舞蹈世界的外面

the richer you are as a person

身為人 你會感到更富有

the more interesting you will be as a performer.

你會成為更有趣的表演者

Katie: I feel that that is a wonderful

Katie: 我覺得那是一個很棒的

piece of advice for everyone of quite honestly

建議 對任何人說 非常坦誠地

and one of the reasons that I wanted

且其中一個理由 我想要做

to do this film was to inspire

這部影片是為了去激發

that age group that might be searching

某個年齡層 那些想去尋找

for what it is that they want to do

他們究竟想要做什麼

and I love what you're saying

而且我喜歡你所說的

because I was raised in the same way.

因為我也是被這樣教育的

Christene Barberich: There's a lot of energy

Christene Barberich:有很多的能量

a lot of, you know, sometimes nervous energy

很多很多 有時候是緊張的能量

and insecurity, you know, when you're young

還有不安全感 你知道的 當你年輕的時候

and you're starting out and I think

你開始向外走 而且我想

that you have all these aspirations

你會有強烈的抱負

and you have these high hopes about

你有高度的期待關於

what you want to do with your life

你想要為你的人生做什麼

and sometimes it takes a little bit longer

有的時候會花有一點長的時間

than you think it's going to take.

比你想像中的還要長

Katie: How important are female relationships

Katie: 女性人際關係對你來說

to you in your life?

在你的人生有多重要?

How do women support you?

女性們怎麼支持妳?

How do you support them?

你怎麼支持她們?

Jeanne Yang: I read a quote recently that said

Jeanne Yang: 我最近讀到一句格言 它說

"There's a special place in hell

在地獄中有個特別的地方

for women who don't help each other out."

給那些不懂得幫忙其他人的女性

And I really truly believe that.

我真的相信那句話

Renee Robinson: I love sharing information

Renee Robinson: 我愛上分享資訊

with young people about how to investigate

給年經人們 關於怎麼去發掘

what would be good for them

什麼對他們是好的

to get to their best

去得到他們最好的

and each person will have to find

且每個人都必須去尋找

the specific details of what they will need

那些他們所需要的特定的材料

to make their journey its most sparkly

去讓他們人生旅程更加燦爛

so that's why I say I enjoy sharing

所以那就是為什麼我享受分享這件事

what I have done in hopes that

我所做的是希望那會

it leads them to what will be best for them.

引領他們成為他們最好的樣子