AND BACK TO THE SCHOOL IN %

FLORIDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. %

>> Reporter: SHARE.

>>> CORONAVIRUS CASES ARE ON %

THE RISE IN AT LEAST 11 STATES.

DR. FAUCI:THE DATA DISTURBING.

NESTLE, THOUGH, WE ARE SEEING %

IMPROVEMENT. %

THAT HE WAS NOT AVERAGING ABOUT

HALF AS MANY NEW CASES TODAY AS

IT WAS IN JULY. %

WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT MORE

THAN 34,000 NEW CASES EVERY %

DAY. %

DR. RICHARD JOINS ME NOW. %

HE IS THE FORMER ACTING %

DIRECTOR OF THE CDC. %

HE IS THE CURRENT CEO OF THE

JOHNSON FOUNDATION.

IT IS ALWAYS WONDERFUL TO HAVE

THE ON.

11 STATES REPORTING AN INCREASE

IN CASES AS WE HEAD INTO THE %

FALL. %

IS THIS WHAT THE START OF THE %

SECOND WAVE LOOKS LIKE BUT I %

WOULD NOT CALL IT A SECOND WAVE?

I THINK WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE

ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ALISON, IS %

THAT AS THINGS CHANGE, AS %

STUDENTS GO BACK TO SCHOOL, AS %

COLLEGES STUDENTS COME BACK %

INTO TOWN, AS DIFFERENT PARTS %

OF THE ECONOMY GET UP AND %

RUNNING, WE ARE GOING TO SEE %

INCREASES IN CASES. %

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH %

PARTICULAR LOCATION ON AND SAY,

OKAY, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

WHAT IS DRIVING THIS INCREASE? %

AS CAROL WAS TELLING US, THEY %

ARE TRYING DIFFERENT THINGS. %

THERE WILL BE SOME BARS. %

IT IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD %

TO TRACK THESE DONE.

ARE THEY ABLE TO DO IT IN A WAY

THAT DOES NOT LEAD TO THAT %

INCREASE AND SPREAD WITHIN %

THEIR COMMUNITY %

>> WE'RE SEEING THAT AROUND THE

COUNTRY. %

AS THINGS ARE CHANGING, WE'RE %

GOING TO SEE NUMBERS GO UP THE %

USE OF THE TERM WAVES GIVES A %

SENSE THAT EVERYTHING IS %

HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME

WHERE IT IS ROLLING ACROSS THE %

COUNTRY. %

I DON'T THINK THAT IS HOW IT IS

GOING TO PLAY OUT THIS FALL. %

>> HOW ABOUT VACCINES? %

A BIG ISSUE OF CONCERN FOR SOME

PEOPLE BUT THE CEO OF PFIZER %

SAYS THEY WILL LEARN IF THEIR

PARTICULAR ACCENT WORKS. %

IF IT DOES, WHAT DOES THE %

VACCINE TIME LINE LOOK LIKE? %

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? %

WHAT MIGHT THE AVERAGE PERSON %

BE ABLE TO GET ONE? %

>> YOU KNOW, WHAT OF THE %

POSITIVE SIGNS OF THE VACCINE

DEVELOPMENT IS THE FEDERAL %

GOVERNMENT HAS PAID FOR THAT %

MANUFACTURING OF A LOT OF %

VACCINES, EVEN BEFORE THE %

TRIALS ARE DONE. %

SO IF TRIALS ARE DONE, AND IF %

VACCINE IS SHOWN TO BE SAFE AND

EFFECTIVE, AND THE FOOD AND %

DRUG ADMINISTRATION IS ALLOWED %

TO DO THE WORK AND ASSESS %

WHETHER THAT IS THE CASE IN THE

CITY SEEKING TO THEIR WORK, IT %

IS POSSIBLE THAT THERE IS A %

VACCINE. %

BUT THE BIG IF IN WITH THE %

PFIZER EXECUTIVE SAID, AT THIS %

POINT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF %

THAT EVIDENCE BECAUSE THE %

TRIALS ARE STILL GOING ON. %

SO I THINK IT IS REALLY %

IMPORTANT THAT THEY KEEP USING %

THE WORD IF. %

IF THERE'S A VACCINE. %

BUT AND WE REALLY FOCUS OUR %

EFFORTS ON WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO

CONTROL THIS IN COMMITTEES %

WITHOUT A VACCINE BECAUSE THE %

LIKELIHOOD THAT A VACCINE IS %

GOING TO PLAY A BIG ROLE HIS %

FAULT THAT THIS WINTER, I THINK

IT IS EXCEEDINGLY LOW. %

>> DR. BESSER, REPORTING THAT %

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SUMMA %

OFFICIALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO %

REVIEW AND CHANGE CDC REPORTS. %

GIVEN YOUR EXPENSE WITH THE %

CDC, IS THIS UNUSUAL? AND HOW %

CONCERNING IS THIS TO YOU? %

IT IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

YOU KNOW, I STARTED MY CAREER %

AT THE CDC BACK IN 1991. %

AND OVER THE COURSE OF MY 13 %

YEARS THERE, I WAS THE CO-%

AUTHOR OF MANY OF THOSE %

REPORTS. %

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SECTOR

SUN. %

THERE WAS NO HELICAL DIFFERENCE

IN TERMS OF WHAT WENT INTO

THOSE REPORTS.

SO THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT

WAS COMING UP. %

THERE WAS A CLEAR LINE DRAWN.

AND SCIENTISTS WERE ALLOWED TO %

DO THEIR WORK.

THIS DOCUMENT, THIS JOURNAL IS %

CALLED THE MMWR.

NOT A VERY CATCHY TITLE BUT IT %

TOTAL THAT RESONATES WITH THE %

PUBLIC HEALTH COMMITTEE AND %

THERE'S A BELIEF ACROSS THE %

NATION AND PUBLIC HEALTH %

PROVIDERS THAT THE INFORMATION %

IN THE MMWR IS THE BEST PUBLIC

HEALTH SCIENCE AVAILABLE. %

ANYTHING THAT COULD CAST DOUBT %

ON THAT, IS VERY, VERY %

WORRISOME.

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO AMERICANS

WHO WHETHER, CAN AND SHOULD %

THEY TRUST THE DATA COMING OUT %

OF THE CDC?

>> Reporter: WELL, YOU KNOW, %

TIME AND TIME AGAIN, DURING THE

PANDEMIC WE HAVE SEEN THE %

INSTANCES WHERE THERE HAS BEEN %

LITTLE INTERFERENCE BUT THAT %

WORRIES ME GREATLY. %

WE NEED TO SEE A CHANGE, %

WHETHER IT IS A HARD LINE BUT %

IN THE SAND THAT SAYS, WELL, %

NOTHING COMING OUT OF THE CDC %

WILL BE SUBJECT TO POLITICAL %

INTERFERENCE. %

WITHOUT THAT, AS WE GO INTO THE

FALL, RECOMMENDATIONS COMING %

OUT OF THE CDC OUT OF THE

VACCINE WILL BE SUSPECT. %

THAT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE

DISASTER. %

I DON'T AS A LEADING PUBLIC %

HEALTH OFFICIAL WAS SAYING,

VACCINES DON'T SAVE LIVES. %

IT IS VACCINATIONS. %

WE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF %

THERE'S A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE %

VACCINE, EVERYONE WANTS TO GET %

IT BUT THAT IS THE ENTIRE %

COMMUNITY. %

MAKING SURE THAT COMMITTEES OF %

COLOR ARE WHICH OUT TO THE %

AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT -- IF WE %

DON'T DO THOSE THINGS, WE COULD

HAVE A VACCINE THAT IS NOT ABLE

TO HAVE THE IMPACT WE WANT %

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO