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  • Since China seize control of the land they live on, Tibetans have complained that their religious freedom and traditional way of life are being actively curtailed.

  • Now it appears the situation is getting worse.

  • There's evidence that Beijing is forcing hundreds of thousands of Tibetans off their land and into so called vocational training centers that are set to resemble labor camps.

  • Traditional farmers and herders are being turned into factory workers and other low paid labor and made to relocate to other parts of China.

  • Those are the findings of a report by a US based research institute findings.

  • China's governor in Tibet denies what's with that town hall To sure there are no forced labor transfers.

  • As the party secretary and I explained, just now, people have a strong desire to travel for work, and people have a strong desire to learn new skills.

  • The government has followed their wishes and needs.

  • You know we'll shoot you.

  • But the information gathered by the Jamestown Foundation tells a different story.

  • It says rural Tibetans are coerced into militarized training regiments in facilities like this one and subjected to quote thought, transformation, patriotic and legal education and Chinese language teaching it's aspect like these that are causing comparisons to Xinjiang province, where Beijing is accused of indoctrinating ethnic leaguers in so called reeducation camps.

  • There's no evidence that Tibetans are facing the same level of persecution as the week gers, but the international community is taking note.

  • On October 14th, Washington appointed a new coordinator for Tibetan issues on had a message for Beijing, one of the court challenges that we've identified from the Chinese Communist Party there ah, consistent violation of the most basic and fundamental human rights for their own people.

  • Whether it's Xinjiang, what's taking place there, whether it's Tibet, talked about that a little bit here this morning will work hard to do everything we can to build out a coalition all across the world that comes to understand how important that is alongside of us and works to impose costs on the Chinese Communist Party when they act in ways that are inconsistent with those basic fundamental human freedoms.

  • Beijing's answer.

  • The U.

  • S.

  • Should mind its own business.

  • Three.

  • Establishment off the so called special coordinator for Tibetan issues by the U.

  • S.

  • Is totally out of political manipulation aiming to interfere in China's internal affairs and undermined the development and stability of Tibet.

  • China has always opposed this position and has never recognized it.

  • Tibet's government has said that some 15% of the region's population have received vocational training in just seven months, and the program is ongoing.

  • Rights groups worry that with every person that's enrolled, Tibetan culture is being further eroded.

  • Joining us is Kate Saunders, a specialist and writer on Tibet.

  • Kate, the report documenting this just came out.

  • But I know you've monitored what's been happening in Tibet for years.

  • What have been some of your own findings?

  • Yes, this that this report gave Ah very important indication of the very rapid social economic transformations taking place in Tibet.

  • On what we've found is that this combination off intensified securitization and militarization.

  • Before Xin Jiang came to bet in which dystopian police state was set up, in which, emerging from China's economic and strategic objectives on Tibet on with the ultimate aim off, a zone official document put it, breaking connections, breaking, lineage, breaking roots on.

  • What we found is that this goes beyond the superficial measures now, so Tibetan Buddhism and loyalty to the Dalai Lama runs very deep in Tibetan people.

  • On DSO, the measures need to go very deep too.

  • So we've seen the party using a new language, a new focus on ideological control.

  • Andi focusing really on obliterating KADEK collective memory of what it is to be Tibetan, raising the Allah Lama's influence.

  • This this further emphasis on Sinus ization.

  • Andi.

  • Even while we may not understand fully what Sinus ization means, it's it's linked to the objective of creating compliant citizens in Tibet on with a focus on not only the empty recitation of party slogans, but really the emotional Byeon off Tibetans to an ideological remolding or rewiring, which is very dangerous, of course, right, you mentioned that it's a police state.

  • I'm curious what is different this time.

  • Do you think that there's going to be an expansion into bed of what has taken place in Xinjiang with the detention camps?

  • Is there a more systemic thing that they're going to try to import into Tibet this time?

  • It's very different in that we haven't monitored the same mass internment that has been seen in Xinjiang on, but although there has beena large scale expansion of prisons and we've noticed the deeper institutionalization of this ideological agenda with the construction of new UM, party building facilities on Daz Incenses research, they seem to be centered on a military style training in many cases Onda also in taking Tibetans off their land.

  • So this is linked to a drive that we've seen since 1999 2000.

  • Under the so called Western Development Campaign, in which tens of thousands, possibly millions off Tibetan nomads and herders have lost their traditional lively hoods.

  • Andi, there's Bean Ah, whole program of mass urbanization on.

  • This is one of the elements that is most important in the latest research because Tibetans are being removed from their land linked to these massive social engineering policies that we've seen over the years, right?

  • That appears to be China's endgame.

  • Kate Saunders.

  • Thank you.

Since China seize control of the land they live on, Tibetans have complained that their religious freedom and traditional way of life are being actively curtailed.

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