EVERYBODY.

每個人。

LET'S SAY HELLO TO OUR FRIEND MR. JON BATISTE.

讓我們向我們的朋友先生問好。JON BATISTE.

JON, CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS DAY?

喬恩，你能相信這一天嗎？

>> Jon: WOW.

>> 喬恩。WOW.

WE ARE REALLY SEEING AN UNPRECEDENTED TIME.

我們真的看到了一個前所未有的時代。

2020 IS TAKING THE CAKE.

2020年是採取蛋糕。

I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.

我從來沒有見過這樣的事情。

>> Stephen: JON, WILL YOU JOIN ME IN SAYING A PRAYER FOR THE

>> 史蒂芬：喬恩，你能和我一起為

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE FIRST LADY?

美國總統和第一夫人？

>> Jon: OH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> 喬恩。哦，絕對的。

PRAY FOR THEIR HEALTH AND HOPE THEY OVERCOME THIS.

為他們的健康祈禱，希望他們能克服這個問題。

>> Stephen: RIGHT.

>> Stephen:右邊。

BECAUSE REGARDLESS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT DONALD TRUMP-- AND I HAVE

因為不管你對唐納德-特朗普的看法如何，而我也是如此

NOT BEEN VAGUE ABOUT THAT-- IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE THE HUMANITY OF

不是含糊其辭 -- 重要的是要看到人性的東西

THIS MOMENT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR OUR COUNTRY FOR THE

這個時刻，對我們國家來說是多麼的重要。

PRESIDENT TO BE HEALTHY.

主席要健康。

>> Jon: ABSOLUTELY.

>> 喬恩。當然可以。

SUFFERING IS THE GREAT EQUALIZER, AND THE RAMIFICATIONS

痛苦是最大的平等者，以及RAMIFICATIONS(RAMIFICATIONS)。

OF THIS ARE MAJOR SO WE PRAY FOR THE BEST.

這是很重要的，所以我們祈禱最好的。

>> Stephen: JON BATISTE, EVERYBODY.

>> Stephen:JON BATISTE，每個人。

THANK YOU, JON.

謝謝你，喬恩。

>> Jon: ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU, STEPHEN.

>> 喬恩當然，謝謝你，史蒂芬。

>> Stephen: MY FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS A PROFESSOR OF

>> Stephen:今晚我的第一位客人是一位教授，他是一位教授

MEDICINE AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY, A PHYSICIAN AT N.Y.U. LANGONE,

紐約大學的醫學，紐約大學的物理學家LANGONE。

AND THE CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR CBS NEWS.

以及CBS新聞的首席醫學記者。

HERE TO BREAK DOWN THE LATEST NEWS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE,

這裡是白宮的最新新聞。

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW," DR. JON LAPOOK.

歡迎回到 "深夜秀"，JON LAPOOK博士。

DR. LaPOOK, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

博士。拉波克，謝謝你今天來這裡。

I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU MUST BE.

我知道你有多忙。

>> I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE, TEACHEN.

>> 我很高興來到這裡，老師。

THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME.

謝謝你邀請我。

>> Stephen: WELL, IT IS-- IT IS TRULY TROUBLING TO SEE THE

>> Stephen:好了，這是 - 這是真正的困擾看到的。

PRESIDENT TAKEN OFF TO THE HOSPITAL.

主席被送往醫院。

>> WHAT A SOBERING MOMENT IN TIME, STEPHEN.

>> 多麼悲傷的時刻啊，史蒂芬。

IT REALLY IS.

它真的是。

AND IT-- AND IT WAS UPSETTING TO SEE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

它 -- 它是令人不安的，看到美國總統。

STATES WITH COVID-19, AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN

國家與COVID-19，特別是，你知道，我在。

THE COVID WARDS IN APRIL AT N.Y.U. LANGONE, WHERE I'M A

4月在紐約大學朗格納分校的科維德戰役，我是在那裡

PROFESSOR, AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN THE FIRST WEEK, THEY

教授，我知道人們可以在第一週就可以了。

CAN BE QUITE STABLE, BUT THEN IN THAT SECOND WEEK, THEY CAN TAKE

可以很穩定，但在第二週，他們可以採取。

A TURN FOR THE WORSE.

變得更糟糕了。

AND I SUSPECT THAT'S WHY THEY WANT HIM UNDER CLOSE OBSERVATION

我想這也是他們要他接受嚴密監視的原因。

AT THE MEDICAL CENTER THERE.

在那裡的醫療中心。

>> Stephen: WELL, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HOPING FOR THE PRESIDENT

>> 斯蒂芬：好吧，很明顯，我們對總統抱有希望。

AND THE FIRST LADY TO FULLY RECOVER.

也是第一位完全康復的女士。

NOW THAT HE IS AT WALTER REED, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE

現在他在沃特里德，我們對他有什麼瞭解？

SEVERITY OF HIS CONDITION, IN ANYTHING?

他的病情的嚴重性，在任何事情？

>> YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS

>> 你知道，你知道，我們已經聽說了，你知道，他已經。

SOME MILD SYMPTOMS AND A LOW-GRADE FEVER.

一些輕微的症狀和低度發燒。

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A LOW-GRADE FEVER IS, EXACTLY.

我們不知道什麼是低級別的發燒，確切地說。

>> Stephen: THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.

>> Stephen:這是我的第一個問題。

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE A LOW-GRADE FEVER?

低燒是什麼意思？

>> YOU KNOW, RIGHT, WE KNOW FEVER, COUGH, THE DANGEROUS ONE

>> 你知道，對，我們知道發燒，咳嗽，危險的一個。

IS SHORTNESS OF BREATH.

是呼吸短促。

BUT WE SAW HIM FOR A FEW SECONDS TALKING.

但我們只見他說了幾秒鐘話。

HE GAVE A TWEET, A VIDEO TWEET, AND HE LOOKED TO ME LIKE HE DID

他發了一條微博，一條視頻微博，他看我的眼神就像他看我一樣

NOT HAVE SHORTNESS OF BREATH, LIKE HE DID NOT HAVE LABORED

沒有呼吸急促，就像他沒有工作一樣

BREATHING AND HE WALKED UP THE STAIRTO THE HELICOPTER AND HE

喘著氣，他走到樓梯上的直升機和他

GAVE THE BAN STERK THE RAIL, ABOUT THREE QUICK TAPS.

給了BAN STERK鐵路，大約三個快速的拍子。

THAT WAS SORT OF A GOOD SIGN.

這是個好兆頭。

BUT, YOU KNOW, HE IS OVER 60-- RIGHT, HE'S 74, WHICH IS A RISK

但是，你知道，他超過60 -- 對，他是74歲，這是一個風險。

FACTOR.

因素：

HE'S OBESE, TECHNICALLY, BY THE LAST NUMBERS WE HAVE.

他是肥胖的，從技術上講，由我們擁有的最後的數字。

AND IN THE UNITED STATES MORTALITY FROM COVID-19, PEOPLE

在美國，人們的死亡率從COVID-19開始。

OVER THE AGE OF 65, IS 15%, 1, 5, PERCENT.

65歲以上，是15%，1，5，%。

THE ODDS ARE STATISTICALLY THAT HE SHOULD GET BETTER, ESPECIALLY

賠率是靜態的，他應該得到更好的，特別是。

HE'S UNDER SUCH CLOSE OBSERVATION AND CARE.

他在如此密切的觀察和照顧之下。

BUT THE ONE THING THAT'S PREDICTABLE ABOUT CORONAVIRUS IS

但有一件事是可以預知的，那就是冠狀病毒。

THAT IT'S UNPREDICTABLE.

這是不可預知的。

>> Stephen: THE PRESIDENTA PHYSICIAN SAID HE RECEIVED

>> 斯蒂芬：總統的醫生說他收到了。

SOMETHING CALLED A POLYCLONAL ANTIBODY COCKTAIL TREATMENT.

被稱為 "多聚物抗宿醉治療法 "的東西。

WHAT IS THAT FOR THE LAY MAN?

躺著的人是什麼？

>> I THINK THIS WAS A MISSTATEMENT.

>> 我想這是一個錯誤的聲明。

IT'S MONCLONAL ANTIBODY.

它的單克隆抗體。

AND YOU I TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT ANTIBODIES, IF SOMEBODY HAS AN

我上次跟你說過，如果有人有抗體的話

INFECTION THEY HAVE ALL OF THESE ANTIBODIES IN THEIR BLOOD

他們的血液裡有所有這些抗生素的感染

STREAM, AND THAT'S CALLED CONVALESCENT PLASMA.

流，這就是所謂的空心等離子體。

IN THE THERE IS DIFFERENT ANTIBODIES THAT DON'T ATTACK

在《有不同的抗生素，不攻擊。

THAT WAY TO OTHER THINGS, OTHER ORGANISMS IN YOUR BODY.

這樣一來，其他的東西， 其他組織在你的身體。

THE MONCLANL ANTIBODY IS AN EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT.

MONCLANL ANTIBODY是一種實驗性的治療方法。

I SHOULD SAY THAT.

我應該說的。

IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN TO BE SAFE.

它還沒有被證明是安全的。

IT IS A TECHNOLOGICAL TOUR DE FORCE IN THE LAB.

這是一場實驗室的技術之旅。

THEY MAKE ANTIBODIES DIRECTLY SOLELY TO THE CORONAVIRUS, THE

他們製造的抗生素直接只對冠狀病毒，該。

CROWN, IT JUST ATTACHES TO THAT PART OF THE CROWN WHICH IS

皇冠，它只是附著在皇冠的那部分，而這部分是：

NECESSARY FOR THE VIRUS TO ATTACK YOU.

病毒攻擊你的必要條件。

IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC TREATMENT.

這是一種非常特殊的治療方法。

THERE IS SOME PRELIMINARY DATA THAT IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S

有一些初步的數據顯示，它看起來像它的

SAFE.

安全。

IT MIGHT BE EFFECTIVE.

它可能是有效的。

BUT, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HIS CONDITION TO KNOW WHAT

但是，再一次，我們不知道他的狀況，不知道什麼是

WAS THE RISK-BENEFIT DECISION THERE?

風險收益決定是否存在？

WHY DID THEY MAKE THAT DECISION?

他們為什麼要做出這個決定？

WAS IT-- QUOTE, UNQUOTE-- AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

它是... ... 引用，UNQUOTE... ... 一個豐富的謹慎。

IT'S AN EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT.

這是一種實驗性的治療。

WE DO NEED TO HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY, I THINK.

我想，我們確實需要更多的透明性。

>> Stephen: WE HAVE SO LITTLE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THE

>> Stephen:我們對這個問題的透明度太低了。

PRESIDENT'S HEALTH IN GENERAL, DON'T WE?

主席的健康，不是嗎？

WE KNOW HE WENT TO WALTER REED WAS IT 2018 OR EARLY '19?

我們知道他去了WALTER REED，是2018年還是19年初？

>> YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR.

>> 你知道的，去年。

>> Stephen: LAST YEAR, WHO WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A REALLY

>> Stephen:去年，我們還沒有得到一個真正的人。

GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY THAT HAPPENED.

很好地回答了為什麼會發生這種情況。

DO WE AT THIS MOMENT KNOW WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S COMORBIDITIES

我們現在是否知道主席的佣金是多少？

MAY BE?

可能是？

>> YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING FOR SURE.

>> 你知道，我們不知道什麼是肯定的。

AND THIS-- YOU KNOW, THIS BRINGS UP THE WHOLE POINT OF

而這 -- 你知道，這帶來了整個觀點的。

TRANSPARENCY.

透明度：

ONE OF THE VERY FIRST RULES OF PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS MANAGEMENT,

公共衛生危機管理的首要規則之一：

STEPHEN IS TO BE TRANSPARENT TO, JUST TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE

史蒂芬是要透明的，只需說出真相，全部的。

TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

真理，只有真理。

AND PARADOXICALLY, IF YOU'RE HONEST WITH PEOPLE, IF YOU LEVEL

矛盾的是，如果你對人誠實，如果你達到了一定的水準

WITH THEM, AND THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE LEVELING WITH THEM, EVEN

和他們在一起，他們也知道你在和他們平起平坐，甚至是。

IF THE NEWS IS WORRISOME, THE WHOLE PROCESS IS IN AND OF

如果新聞是令人擔憂的，整個過程是在和。

ITSELF REASSURING.

讓自己放心。

SO YOU JUST GOT TO JUST TELL THE-- TELL IT AS IT IS.

所以，你只要告訴... ... 告訴它，因為它是。

PEOPLE ARE GROWN-UPS IN THE UNITED STATES-- WELL, A LOT OF

人們都是成年人在美國 - 好了，很多的。

PEOPLE ARE.

人是。

( LAUGHS ) ESPECIALLY THE GROWN-UPS.

（笑）尤其是成年人。

BUT I THINK YOU GOTTA BE HONEST WITH PEOPLE AND JUST TELL THEM

但我覺得你應該對人們誠實，告訴他們。

THE FACT S.

事實S。

>> Stephen: WELL, THE DEBATE ON TUESDAY WAS AT CASE WESTERN

>> 史蒂芬: 週二的辯論在凱斯韋斯特大學舉行

AND CLEVELAND CLINIC.

和克利夫蘭診所。

AND THE CLEVELAND OFFICIALS SAY THAT THEY'RE PRESENTLY AWARE OF

而克利夫蘭官員說，他們目前知道的

11 POSITIVE CASES RELATED TO THE SETUP AND PLANNING OF TUESDAY'S

11個與星期二會議的安排和規劃有關的積極案例。

DEBATE.

辯論：

BIDEN, AND DR. BIDEN, JILL BIDEN, TESTED NEGATIVE TODAY.

比登，和博士。比登，吉爾・比登博士， 今天測試呈陰性。

ARE THEY IN THE CLEAR?

他們是在清除？

STLOO A CHANCE WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET?

STLOO是我們還不知道的機會嗎？

>> I LOVE THAT QUESTION.

>> 我喜歡這個問題。

THE QUICK ANSWER IS THEY ARE NOT IN THE CLEAR YET.

迅速的答案是他們還沒到清場的時候。

WE DON'T KNOW YET.

我們還不知道。

AND REMEMBER LAST TIME WE SPENT ALL THAT TIME EXPLAINING THE

記得上次我們花了那麼多時間來解釋這個問題。

BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION IN THE PANDEMIC IN MY EXPERIENCE IS THE

在我的經驗中，對PANDEMIC最大的誤解是：在我的經驗中。

2- TO 14-DAY INCUBATION PERIOD AND IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY

2-14天的孵化期，而且非常、非常、非常。

RELEVANT RIGHT HERE.

相關的就在這裡。

LET'S GO OVER IT AGAIN.

讓我們再來一遍。

IF I GET INFECTED TODAY-- INFECTED-- I CAN BE INFECTIOUS,

如果我今天被感染... 被感染... 我可能會被感染。

ABLE TO INFECT SOMEBODY ELSE ANYWHERE FROM 2-14 DAYS LATER.

能夠在2-14天后的任何地方感染他人。

THAT MEANS I COULD GET TESTED DAY THREE BE NEGATIVE, DAY FOUR,

這意味著我第三天可能會被測試為陰性，第四天。

BE NEGATIVE, ANYWHERE UP TO DAY 14, AND AT ANY MOMENT I COULD GO

是消極的，任何地方到第14天，並在任何時候，我可以去。

FROM TESTING NEGATIVE TO TESTING POSITIVE AND THEN INFECTING

從陰性測試到陽性測試，再到感染。

SOMEBODY ELSE, EVEN WITHOUT SYMPTOPS.

其他人，即使沒有合成器。

THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT ANYBODY IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH

這就是為什麼任何人在和你有密切聯繫的時候，都必須這樣做。

ANYBODY WHO IS INFECTED THAT THEY GET TESTED TO SEE IF THEY

任何受感染的人都要接受測試，以確定他們是否有感染。

MAY BE SPREAD IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND THAT THEY GO INTO

可能會傳播給別人，然後他們就會進入。

QUARANTINE.

QUARANTINE：

>> Stephen: SO THE QUARANTINE, WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE PEOPLE

>> 斯蒂芬：所以，四分位數，會不會包括人。

THAT HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT NOT ONLY WITH HOPE HICKS BUT THE

不僅與HOPE HICKS接觸過，而且還與HOPE HICKS接觸過。

PRESIDENT LAST NEW DAYS-- MIKE PENCE, BILL BARR, ALEX AZAR,

主席最後一天： 邁克-彭斯，比爾-巴爾，亞歷克斯-阿扎爾。

KAYLEIGH McENANY.

KAYLEIGH McENANY.

SHOULD THEY BE IN QUARANTINE RIGHT NOW, REGARDLESS OF THEIR

他們是否應該現在就被隔離，不管他們的身份是什麼。

TESTS?

考試？

>> YOU KNOW, IT DEPEND WHETHER THEY WERE FELT TO BE IN CLOSE

>> 你知道，這取決於他們是否被認為是近距離的。

CONTACT, AND THAT'S UP FOR SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF JUDGMENT

聯繫，這就是我們的一點判斷。

CALL.

呼叫：

SUPPOSEDLY IT MEANS WITHIN SEX FEET FOR 15 MINUTES.

應該是指在性愛距離內15分鐘。

THERE'S NO STRICT RULE ABOUT THAT.

沒有嚴格的規定。

BUT IF THEY WERE IN CLOSE CONTACT, THEN THEY REALLY SHOULD

但如果他們有密切聯繫，那麼他們真的應該。

BE TESTED TO SEE IF THEY-- THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BE INFECTING

測試他們是否有可能被感染。

SOMEBODY ELSE, AND THEN THEY SHOULD GO INTO QUARANTINE.

其他人，然後他們應該進入定量。

THERE'S CONFUSION ABOUT THE TERMS.

術語上有疑惑。

IF YOU'RE INFECTED YOU GO INTO ISOLATION.

如果你被感染了，你就會被隔離。

IF YOU ARE EXPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO IS INFECTED, YOU GO INTO

如果你接觸到一些受感染的人，你就會進入到一個新的階段。

QUARANTINE.

QUARANTINE：

>> Stephen: OKAY, OKAY.

>> Stephen:好吧，好吧。

AS A DOCTOR, I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF PATIENT OVERS THE YEARS

作為一個醫生，我相信你這幾年來一定有很多病人過世了

WHO DO NOT TAKE YOUR INSTRUCTIONS.

誰不採取你的訓示。

>> A COUPLE.

>> 一對夫婦。

>> Stephen: AND-- AND A LOT OF AMERICANS AREN'T TAKING MASKS OR

>> 史蒂芬: 而且 -- 很多美國人沒有帶面具或

SOCIAL DISTANCING SERIOUSLY.

社會距離嚴重。

DO YOU THINK THAT THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEPOLITICIZE

你認為這可能是一個機會去石油化。

THE TEACHING OVER HOW TO KEEP COVID FROM SPREADING HERE, TO

如何防止COVID在這裡傳播，到的教學。

TAKE MASKS AWAY FROM LEFT-RIGHT, REPUBLICAN-DEMOCRAT, AND JUST

把左派-右派、共和派-民主派的面具拿掉，就可以了。

MAKE IT THE RIGHT PRESCRIPTION?

讓它成為正確的處方？

>> YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, STEPHEN, I DO THINK IT'S A POTENTIAL

>> 你知道嗎，你知道嗎，史蒂芬，我認為這是一個潛在的機會

TEACHING MOMENT.

教學時刻。

CLEARLY, MASKS AND-- WHETHER YOU WEAR THEM OR NOT-- HAS BEEN

很明顯，面具和... ... 不管你戴不戴，已經被...

POLITICIZED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

為任何理由而政治化。

IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE'VE HAD MIXED MESSAGES ON IT.

很明顯，我們已經有了混合的資訊。

IT'S ALSO VERY CLEAR THAT MASKS ARE PART OF THE ARMAMENTITARIUM

很明顯，面具也是軍火庫的一部分。

TO HELP PROTECT US.

幫助保護我們。

NOTHING IS 100%.

沒有什麼是100%的。

YOU WEAR MASKS.

你戴著口罩。

YOU WASH YOUR HANDS.

你洗手。

YOU HAVE THE PHYSICAL DISTANCING.

你有物理上的距離。

YOU TRY TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY DENSE

你試著去一個沒有那麼多電的地方。

PEOPLE.

人。

OTDOORS IS SAFER THAN INDOORED DOORS.

OTDOORS比室內門更安全。

IF YOU'RE INDOORS, OPEN A WINDOW, HAVE BETTER VENTILATION,

如果你在室內，打開窗戶，有更好的通風。

MAYBE AN AIR PURIFIER.

可能是空氣淨化器。

ALL OF THESE THINGS WORK IN CONCERT TOGETHER.

所有這些東西都在一起協調工作。

NOT ONE THING-- EVEN THE VACCINE WHEN IT COMES IS NOT GOING TO BE

沒有一件事... 即使是疫苗來了也不會有的。

100% EFFECTIVE, SO YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER.

100%有效，所以你要把所有這些事情一起做。

>> Stephen: DOCTOR, WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

>> Stephen:醫生，我們必須採取快速休息。

STICK AROUND EVERYBODY, WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL ASK

黏住大家，當我們回來的時候，我會問的

DR. LaPOOK ABOUT WHETHER THE PRESIDENT SHOULD DO THE NEXT

拉波克博士拉普勒博士關於主席是否要做下一個項目的問題。

DEBATE.

辯論：

STICK AROUND.

堅持下去。