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  • HOW ARE YOU, GLORIA, ARE YOU WELL, THANK YOU SOOCH FOR

  • JOINING US ON THE SHOW TONIGHT.

  • >> YES, I AM PRETTY WELL.

  • I AM WAITING FOR THE ELECTION RESULTS TO SAY THAT I'M REALLY

  • WELL.

  • >> James: WHERE ARE YOU RIGHT NOW IN THE WORLD?

  • I KNOW ARE YOU NORMALLY ON THE EAST COAST, WHERE ARE YOU RIGHT

  • NOW.

  • >> I'M IN SANT BARBARA, WHERE I HAVE BEEN SHELTERING FOR THREE

  • MONTHS AND IN A FARM HOUSE HERE SO I AM REALLY VERY LUCKY.

  • THE FIRST THROO MONTHS I WAS LOCKED IN MY APARTMENT IN NORNG

  • BUT THEN I CAME HERE AND HERE HI.

  • >> James: SO YOU-- THIS IS YOUR MOVE TO CALIFORNIA, IS THAT

  • HOW YOU STRUCK UP YOUR NEW FOUND FRIENDSHIP WITH MEGHAN MARKLE

  • WHO I AM A BIG FAN OF.

  • YOU SAID COLD CALLING, HOW DID YOUR FRIENDSHIP COME ABOUT.

  • >> WELL, ACTUALLY SHE AND HER HUSBAND AND BABY ARE LIVING AN

  • HOUR AWAY.

  • >> James: RIGHT.

  • >> AND SO SHE CAME AND SAID HELLO.

  • AND WE-- SAT AT THE TABLE AND COLD CALLED VOTERS JUST TO MAKE

  • SURE THAT THEY WERE GETTING OUT TO VOTE.

  • AS YOU SAID, I STAY HOME TO VOTE AND ALSO IN TACKING WITH BOTH OF

  • THEM, I REALIZED THAT HER HUSBAND HARRY HAS NEVER BEEN

  • ABLE TO VOTE.

  • BECAUSE THE ROYAL, CAN'T VOTE.

  • >> James: I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU STRUCK UP THAT FRIENDSHIP.

  • I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW, WHEN YOU COLD CALL VOTERS, WHAT DO

  • YOU-- DO YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELVES, WHAT, HOW DOES THAT

  • CONVERSATION GO.

  • >> I'M GLORIA STEINEM AND SHE SAYS HELLO I'M MEGHAN MARKLE.

  • SOME PEOPLE CALL ME-- SHE WAS TRYING TO IDENTIFY HERSELF

  • WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, USING HER TITLE.

  • SO SHE WAS JUST USING IT.

  • >> >> James: WHAT WERE PEOPLE'S

  • REACTION WHEN YOU CALL THEM WITHIN THEY SAY OH NO, YOU ARE

  • KIDDING, NO, REALLY.

  • AND THEN WE HAVE A GREAT CONVERSATION.

  • YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD.

  • IT IS A FRIENDSHIP BECAUSE THEY KNOW US A LITTLE BIT SWRZ WHAT A

  • FANTASTIC THING TO DO OBVIOUSLY MANY WOMEN HAVE BENEFITED FROM

  • YOUR WORK ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

  • ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING SUPREME COURT NOMINEE AMY CONEY

  • BARRETT.

  • THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT SHE COULD SET WOMEN'S

  • RIGHTS BACK.

  • AND IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, TO SPEAK STO HER NOW, WHAT YOU

  • WOULD SAY?

  • >> I WOULD SAY THAT I RESPECT YOU AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE

  • THERE.

  • BUT IF REALLY-- THE MAJORITY-- I MEAN YOU KNOW, THE PARTY AT THE

  • TIME THAT PUT THOMAS ON THE BENCH, IT DID NOT REPRESENT THE

  • MAJORITY OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND NOW THEY PUT A EOMAN ON THE

  • BENCH.

  • SO AS MARTIN LUTHER KING SAYS, THE LAW IS UNJUST, YOU HAVE A

  • DUTY NOT TO A BOY-- OBEY THE LAW.

  • >> James: SO MANY PEM ARE, ARE YOU WITH OURIED ABOUT THIS

  • ELECTION.

  • AMERICA FEELS LIKE A MOMENT OF REAL UPHEAVAL.

  • AND I FELT LIKE THIS, AND I HAVE ONLY LIVED HERE FIVE AND A HALF

  • YEARS.

  • HOW DOES AMERICA PROGRESS AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD THROUGH

  • MOMENTS LIKE WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW?

  • >> WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO GET OVER THIS.

  • THE WHAT SHOULD I DO AND JUST DO WHATEVER WE CAN EVERY DAY.

  • IT IS HELPFUL NOW TO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE AGREE WITH ALL THE

  • SOCIAL JUSTICE, WHETHER IT IS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, I KNOW, ALL

  • ITS MOVEMENTS ARE IN A MAJORITY-- MA JOLTER SO WE HAVE

  • TO EXERCISE OUR WILL AND I WORRY SOMETIMES THAT IT IS GOING OVER

  • BECAUSE PEOPLE DISAGREE, SO THERE IS 30 ON ONE SIDE OF THE

  • ROOM WHO SAY NO, AND A HUNDRED ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM THAT

  • SAY YES.

  • AND THE HUNDRED WILL TRY TO CONVINCE THE 30.

  • I MEAN THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION AND I RESPECT

  • THEIR OPINION AND RIGHT TO VOTE.

  • BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO-- IT IS THE SOCIAL JUSTICE MOVE.

  • AND SO IT IS I TO US TO VOTE.

  • AND IF WE DON'T VOTE-- NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE PORNTD

  • THAN VOTING.

  • IT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT.

  • >> SO LOVELY, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GLORIAS, THE MOVIE

  • ABOUT YOUR LIFE, DIRECTEDDED BY JULIE TAYMOR AND FOR ANYONE WHO

  • HASN'T CAUGHT UP WITH IT, TELL US ABOUT IT.

  • >> WELL,-- SAID I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOVIE.

  • I WAS SHOCKED BECAUSE IT COVERS-- I THINK SHE IS A GREAT

  • FILMMAKER OF OUR TIME SO CAN DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS.

  • >> AND SHE WAS AND IT'S AMAZING.

  • I ALWAYS KNEW, I DIDN'T-- ANYTHING, YOU KNOW.

  • BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN HER MOVIES WE ALWAYS FELT HER

  • EMOTIONAL.

  • ANYONE THAT HAS SEEN ACROSS THE UNIVERSE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT

  • YOU MUST BECAUSE ST IT IS THE STORY OF VIETNAM ERA-- OR ANY OF

  • THE RELS, A GREAT FILMMAKER OF OUR TIME, SO I SAID YOU KNOW, DO

  • WHAT YOU WILL.

  • AND SOMETHING MAGICAL THAT I NEVER COULD HAVE IMAGINED, A

  • GREYHOUND BUS-- AND THAT IS WHAT IS OTHERWISE-- YOU CAN IMAGINE

  • GREYHOUND BUS-- AND THAT IS WHAT IS OTHERWISE-- YOU CAN IMAGINE

  • THE FILM.

  • >> James: AND YOU HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY STORY.

  • YOU REALLY DO.

  • AND I ENJOY EVERYBODY TO SEE THIS.

HOW ARE YOU, GLORIA, ARE YOU WELL, THANK YOU SOOCH FOR

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