The Bucks have not won the NBA championship since 1971.

They were not talking about.

They haven't ever nuggets winning a championship, which they never have.

The Bucks haven't even been to the Finals since 74 but, as you say, likely to be a two time M v p back to back.

You won the defensive Player of the Year award already.

When you haven't been there in decades and you're expected to get there, you're the overall favorite to get there.

What's the pressure like in that sort of situation?

Knowing at least getting to the N b A finals?

At least getting out of the East is almost now due to his dominance expected.

So I can relate to this a little bit.

Obviously not at the NBA level.

I didn't play long enough, but you know, my junior year, I returned back to college after we won a national championship.

After we we won a championship my sophomore year coming back, the expectation was when I go home, that was a lot of pressure each and every possession, because people start finding little things wrong with your game.

They start telling you why you won't win it.

Whereas you and you're the underdog.

Nobody, really.

You become like the people's champ, right?

Like Jamal Murray right now is the people's champ.

If they lose to the Clippers there.

Okay, great.

What?

Incredible run.

Right.

But if you're honest, loses to the Milwaukee Bucks.

Oh, yeah.

Honest is gonna leave Milwaukee.

We're not talking conversations about Jamal Murray leaving Denver.

If they lose to the Clippers, you kind of expect that.

So it z unfair is the reality we live in as the guys will be back to back M v P.

I mean, look, look what I was even talking about fans getting mad at you because you're talking about one A and one B.

Even if that's an inch off because you're not talking about Yanis happening.

What do you know?

You've never played.

You don't know about what you're talking about.

Yeah, he's still a franchise guy, but you're talking about the skill sets right that that that slight inch of not being in that Kevin Durant and LeBron James conversation is related to the postseason.

That's that's the stratosphere that Yannis is in right now.

We're not doing that to Jamal.

Expectations.

I e.

Don't have him as a player in football, whether it was coming out of the 98 season and with the Jets and playing Denver and a F C championship game and coming back to running in 99 and it didn't happen for us or whether it was going to the Tampa Bay Bucks, and for three straight years we felt, you know we were right there and picked in Vegas to win it all and just couldn't get over the hump until finally we got over the hump.

But it was like every single time it was pressure being the number one pick.

Overall, it was like stress is like, Dude, I can't throw to myself like, What do you want me to do?

I'm not calling the plays.

Ah, you aren't good.

I remember playing the Jets.

Gay were walking through the better lands.

It's all the fans.

They had a brown paper bag on the the dude took the paper bag.

Just tell everybody sucking that he took it off, said You 20 man, it's just the fun.

Some of the funniest stuff ever with that type of pressure.

Zubin.

It's when or nothing.

That's what it is really honest right now.

Zero something.

When or nothing.

Even if they get to the Eastern Conference finals and they lose, what are we gonna be talking about?

Two years in a row?

Short again?

Even if they get to the NBA Finals.

And Lewis, what if they go down to Oh, I mean, that that then I mean, the narrative becomes something drastically different.

Then you start talking about Chris Middleton.

How is he doing?

Whereas his team on the right pieces.

You guys know how this works, man?

It gives you 21 points instead of 18.

No, I'm sorry.

I was just asking what happens?

Because you cover you got N b a countdown, and you have to go on N B a countdown and discuss the 21 points after the 18.

Ultimately, it comes down to Well, you can say Chris Middleton is a second guy, but it's gonna come down to how dominant Yannis is, How dominant here.

So if he's having 18 points, 21 points, those air still incredible numbers, but they're not.

He's not averaging 47.

And what if over the past three games.

And what if he's not guarding uh, Jimmy Butler?

Jimmy Butler in the in defensive player of the year?

I was kind of I was really shocked that he didn't come out and say No, I'll guard him tomorrow.

I was shocked that he became a little bit passive and defensive and that in that post, that presser, when a reporter asked him, How come he didn't guard Jimmy Butler?

And his answer was, Well, I do what the coach tells me to do, but that's his.

That's his personality, though, Right?

It kind of isn't, though.

Is he like a aggressive Every time I've seen him speak, it's kind of like he's falling in line like he's the type of guy that you know.

He's going to say all the right things and not buck the system.

But he's also the guy says he doesn't wanna work out with other players.

He doesn't need to do that.

He can work out by himself.

He's okay, but that he's on that.

But But that's not bucking the system.

Bucking the system is when you ask somebody about free agency and they say I wanna be in Milwaukee for the rest of my career.

That's playing.

That's like I'm just gonna play the corporate game and I'm gonna say all the right things.

And when the reporter asked him about Garden Jimmy Butler, he said the script.

He went to Page 1 10 and said, This is what I'm gonna say.

I'm gonna do what the coach says, so unfair.

But I still think we're watching a very young Yannis, who is still finding out who Yannis is becoming.

Fair enough.

He's only 25 years old, and he was the 15th overall pick in his draft.

So the fact that he's become the best player in basketball when you pick 15th and any specific MBA draft does say something.

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Can I just say something very quickly?

He's the MVP regular season MVP.

I'm not willing to say he's the best player in basketball, though.

LeBron, that's a yes man.

The most complete skill set there is in the game.

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