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  • BILLY PORTER!

  • ON THE SHOW TONIGHT!

  • THERE HE IS!

  • ( APPLAUSE ) >> HI, PEOPLE!

  • I HOPE YOU CAN SEE MY SWEATER.

  • >> James: I LOVE THIS.

  • I LOVE NO ONE CAN BE IN ANY DOUBT WHAT YOU ARE IMPLORING

  • THEM TO DO AND I SALUTE YOU FOR IT.

  • SO NICE TO SEE YOU.

  • IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE SPOKEN.

  • A LOT'S BEEN GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE.

  • YOU JUST PURCHASED YOUR FIRST EVER HOUSE.

  • HOW DOES IT FEEL?

  • HOW ARE YOU FEELING WITH ALL OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY?

  • >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE JUST MOVED IN, SO I DON'T KNOW REALLY

  • MUCH ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY, AND I'M BLESSED ENOUGH TO HAVE

  • PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HELP ME.

  • BUT I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M A CITY BOY.

  • I GREW UP IN PITTSBURGH, THEN I MOVED TO NEW YORK, MANHATTAN, I

  • LIVED THERE FOR 30 YEARS, I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED THE BIRDS

  • AND THE TREES AND THE CICADAS AND, LIKE, I HAD NO IDEA!

  • AND WE'RE CLOSE TO THE BEACH.

  • SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, BEEN VERY HEALING,

  • YOU KNOW, TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

  • >> James: YEAH.

  • IT'S BEEN VERY HEALING IN A WAY THAT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, YOU

  • KNOW.

  • >> James: ARE YOU MISSING THE CITY, THOUGH?

  • >> NO.

  • >> James: NO?

  • YOU'RE JUST ENJOYING THIS SPACE.

  • >> NO, BUT I'VE ALSO LIVED IN THE CITY FOR 30 YEARS.

  • >> James: YEAH.

  • THIS DECEMBER 27th WILL BE 30 YEARS.

  • I AM 51 YEARS OLD.

  • IT'S OKAY.

  • I CAN GO TO WORK IN ALL THE MAIHEM AND THEN COME HOME AND BE

  • A GROWNUP.

  • >> James: YOU HAVE THE BALANCE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THERE.

  • WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST MET IN

  • NEW YORK ON BROADWAY WHICH IS A COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW MEANS SO

  • MUCH TO YOU AND IT DOES TO ME AND IT'S STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW,

  • BUT I'M INTERESTED TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THIS.

  • ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY KIND OF

  • FINANCIAL SUPPORT OR PACKAGE FOR THEATERS AND THE ARTS FROM

  • GOVERNMENT AT THIS MOMENT?

  • >> NO.

  • NOTHING -- I'M A BLACK MAN WHO LIVES IN AMERICA.

  • NOTHING IS SURPRISING TO ME.

  • THE THING ABOUT THE ART IS IT'S AWAYS THE FIRST TO GO BECAUSE,

  • YOU KNOW, THE ARTS CREATES FREE THINKERS, AND FREE THINKERS ASK

  • QUESTIONS.

  • WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ADMINISTRATION WHO ONLY WANTS

  • FOLLOWERS, SO IT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO ME THAT THE ARTS IS

  • DISCARDED.

  • BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL NEVER GO AWAY, WE WILL RISE AGAIN, WE

  • TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, THAT'S WHAT

  • WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.

  • >> James: NOW, YOUR NEW DOCUMENTARY SERIES "EQUAL," THE

  • HISTORY OF THE LGBTQ MOVEMENT BEFORE THE STONEWALL RIOTS.

  • I'M REALLY INTRIGUED TO WATCH IT.

  • WHAT IS THE MOST SURPRISING THING YOU LEARNED WHILE YOU WERE

  • MAKING THE SHOW?

  • >> WELL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH SURPRISING AS IT IS REALLY

  • AMAZING TO SEE AN ENTIRE EPISODE, WHICH IS EPISODE THREE

  • OF THE FOUR, DEDICATED TO BLACK LGBTQ PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF COLOR,

  • LORRAINE HANSBURY BY BYRON RUSTE TO BE SPECIFIC.

  • LORRAINE HANSBURY BY BYRON RUSTE TO BE SPECIFIC.

  • BYRON RUSTEN WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS

  • MOVEMENT.

  • HE ALONE ORGANIZED THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON FOR FREEDOM WHERE THE

  • "I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH" OCCURRED AND HE WAS ESSENTIALLY KICKED

  • OUT OF THE MOVEMENT BECAUSE OF HIS GAYNESS.

  • THAT WASN'T WHAT THE MOVEMENT WAS ABOUT AT THE TIME AND HE

  • TOOK A BACK SEAT.

  • SO IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO SEE POSTHUMOUSLY BYRON RUSTEN

  • GETTING THE RECOGNITION THAT HE DESERVES, YOU KNOW.

  • WE'RE QUEER, WE'RE HERE AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN HERE, AND THAT

  • CONVERSATION IS BEGINNING TO HAPPEN, AND THAT EXCITES ME.

  • >> James: YEAH, IT REALLY DOES.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) YESTERDAY, OBVIOUSLY THE SENATE

  • CONFIRMED A NEW SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AMY CONEY BARRETT.

  • HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU THAT HER APPOINTMENT MEANS THAT THE

  • DECADES OF PROGRESS FOR LGBTQ RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, COULD GET

  • ROLLED BACK?

  • IS IT CONCERNING TO YOU?

  • >> IT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME.

  • THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S NOT JUST LGBTQ.

  • >> James: YEAH.

  • IT'S ALSO WOMEN, IT'S ALSO ANYTHING AND ANYBODY THAT IS NOT

  • WHITE AND MOSTLY MALE.

  • I'M NOT SCARED OF THESE PEOPLE.

  • I'M A BLACK MAN LIVING IN AMERICA.

  • MY PEOPLE CAME THROUGH SLAVERY.

  • SHE DON'T SCARE ME.

  • SHE DON'T SCARE ME AT ALL.

  • NONE OF THEM SCARE ME BECAUSE LOVE ALWAYS WINS.

  • IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME, AND WE, ON THE OTHER SIDE, HAVE TO GET

  • USED TO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FIGHT NEVER ENDS.

  • YOU KNOW, FREDERIC DOUGLAS SAYS ETERNAL VIGILANCE IS THE PRICE

  • OF LIBERTY.

  • I AM A VIGILANTE.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) >> James: BILLY PORTER,

  • EVERYBODY.

  • WHAT A SHOCK FOR YOUR SOUL.

BILLY PORTER!

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