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  • Who is the M V P.

  • 54% of you say Russell Wilson, however, recognize this guy at Dan Orlovsky.

  • Seven.

  • Our colleague NFL Josh Allen, for the first four weeks, but he is weighing in on the doctor Pepper Twitter feed.

  • Friend of the program, He said, It's Tom Brady needs to be in whatever pool, but it's a are right now.

  • So we've got 54 of you saying, Wilson, we're maybe making the case for Tom Brady.

  • Dan Orlovsky, who spent a dozen years playing quarterback in the National Football League, saying, Maybe Brady definitely Rogers in the pole position at the moment.

  • Fellas, I just gave you the numbers here on Tom Brady.

  • It goes beyond numbers is also a storyline aspect to it.

  • Right?

  • 43.

  • Nobody thought he could do it doing without Belichick key.

  • What are your thoughts?

  • Dan and I both know a lot of football.

  • Yes, you do, because I said Aaron Rodgers is the leader of the pack.

  • Russell Wilson fell behind and Tom Brady is in there somewhere.

  • Um, you know, I think Russia.

  • I think Aaron Rodgers is doing a little bit more with less, Although head to head matchup between Brady and Rodgers.

  • Brady got the best of that situation.

  • Whatever the case may be, um, I think when you look at it, Tom Brady's playing phenomenal football.

  • There's no question about it.

  • Hey, has Cem, Cem, Cem, Nice toys to play with some weapons that are there?

  • Uh, he's vintage Tom Brady for me, right?

  • He's in the mix.

  • Russell Wilson fell out of my first place because of the three interceptions against Arizona.

  • I don't anticipate him to continue toe throw picks.

  • No, I don't.

  • I don't anticipate that.

  • But that particular game pushed him down for me.

  • And Rogers came back with Davante Adams fully healthy and with nuts.

  • So my first thought process and looking at it in my eyes, telling me, Oh, this dude here is ridiculous.

  • But I also got Patrick Mahomes in there, You know, because Patrick Mahomes is doing some good things in in Kansas City.

  • You just don't know how these numbers are gonna end up in the end of the year.

  • But we were talking about Tom Brady.

  • We're talking about Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes.

  • You know, Lamar Jackson's in the mix just because he's the reigning M V P.

  • But we're not talking about being Roethlisberger, and I love being.

  • Rothenberger threw three interceptions against Tennessee, but they're undefeated in the second half in the second half.

  • But they're undefeated.

  • They won the game and he's been playing pretty good football.

  • There's to me.

  • There's no real difference in It may be a difference in style, but what he means to his team.

  • Most valuable player to his team, right that that M v P is about the team and what you do for your team and how you moving things along.

  • So when I look at Ben, I'm like, if we're gonna, we're gonna be pushing Tom Brady.

  • What's wrong with being Roethlisberger?

  • I mean, you know, I'm with Ben being in the conversation with Collar Murray being in the conversation with the way he's kind of Mario.

  • He's on the back end of the conversation.

  • He's not at the top, but he's in that conversation.

  • I will say this is why I think Tom Brady is going to make a push.

  • For some reason, just a number four is ingrained in my head when I think about time now, because against Chicago, fourth down, but he was way.

  • We've got four chances to get it in.

  • I get it, you know, versus the Raiders.

  • He threw for 369 yards, right, four TDs, zero interceptions, one rushing TD.

  • But get this key his last nine games remaining on the schedule, Brady will play Atlanta twice.

  • Okay, they own the second worst pass defense in NFL, the Vikings fourth.

  • Worse and favorable matchups against the Giants and the lines so I could see him making a big push because of the weapons and getting Antonio Brown and that spark.

  • I think Russell Wilson is gonna be in a very interesting situation because their defense is not good.

  • So they have to outselling people.

  • I think Russ is gonna take a lot more chances offensively as they get to the beef of some of their schedule.

  • Um, I still see.

  • I think it's between Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes.

  • Mahomes has the best T d toe I n t ratio in the league with 16 touchdowns and only one interception thrown, and for some reason he has a statement game against Baltimore.

  • To me, that game stands out.

  • But see, it was the beginning of the season and there.

  • But it's a statement game.

  • It's It was a colossal matchup.

  • I don't even remember that game like it was weak to write.

  • I'm a voter.

  • I don't remember that game.

  • I remember what's in front of me.

  • So what game stands out for you with Aaron Rodgers?

  • What?

  • Like what?

  • What would stand out for me and Aaron Rodgers?

  • Well, what for?

  • Today?

  • Just today was last week.

  • But five weeks from now, six weeks from now, they're gonna There's gonna be other games.

  • And what I'm saying is it's hard to remember Patrick Mahomes against Baltimore when he was favorite in that game.

  • It wasn't like, all of a sudden he had to go nuts to win the game.

  • If Kansas City and we I don't know what their schedule off the top of my head, but in signature wind comes in, we 13 or something wild like that on a Monday play Brady and week 12.

  • Okay, so?

  • Well, there you go.

  • I said we 13 week 12.

  • They got Brady.

  • Now, all of a sudden, that's toward the end of the voting.

  • Now you go out there and you do what you do now, you jump ahead because on the national stage we are watching that match up.

  • Young versus Old Brady versus, uh Mahomes, MVV versus six time Super Bowl champion.

  • Passing the mind to the torch.

  • All that stuff that they drum up.

  • And that's when you start to say Okay, Patrick Mahomes is catching some steam.

  • Russell Wilson is going to have to, obviously much like Jay Jay Z Lord have Mercy JZ J J Will James E.

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  • Well said, is that he's gonna have to do a little bit Mawr because the defense has struggled at times this year, although I think the defense gets better as the weather turns, People don't go and throw the ball against him as much that things will slow down.

  • He's got to do some Russell Wilson four touchdown type, 350 yard type games to keep that Mo mentum going.

  • I think he loses a little bit of the mo Mentum because of the three interception game against Kyler, Murray and Arizona Cardinals.

  • There's also the anecdotal aspect of it.

  • This is a sports talk radio show, so we speculate.

  • We talk.

  • No, I don't speculate.

  • You're talking definitive tones that you certainly dio last year.

  • Lamar Jackson.

  • This is a point you brought up yesterday on the program.

  • Many people thought Lamar Jackson should not have been drafted in the first round.

  • He shouldn't have been a quarterback.

  • He should have been a.

  • But then he ended up becoming a unanimous M V P.

  • And that story was just too juicy to ignore.

  • When everybody said, Don't do it despite the guy winning the Heisman Trophy, he turns around and he balls out like nobody else.

  • It's a great story.

  • I'm the same corollary receiver, right?

  • Even some of the best, most respected football minds said that right?

  • And you know Bill Polian said it on my show in L.

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  • He's a Holocaust like Bill.

  • Bill Polian.

  • You sure you want to say that?

Who is the M V P.

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