DR. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON!

博士。MICHAEL ERIC DYSON！

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) HOW ARE YOU, MICHAEL?

（歡呼聲和掌聲）你怎麼樣，邁克爾？

ARE YOU WELL?

你還好嗎？

>> I'M DOING FINE, BROTHER JAMES.

>> 我做得很好，兄弟詹姆斯。

ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU AND HANG OUT WITH YOU A BIT, MY MAN.

很高興見到你，和你一起玩玩，夥計。

>> James: IT'S ALWAYS LOVELY TO SEE YOU AND I'VE LOVED OUR

>> 詹姆斯。總是很高興見到你，我也很喜歡我們的關係。

TEXT AND EXCHANGES THE FIRST TIME YOU WERE BACK ON THE SHOW

你第一次回到節目中時的文字和交流

AND WE WERE SO KEEN TO GET YOU HERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AN

我們很想把你帶到這裡來，因為這已經是一個

INCREDIBLE WEEK, WITH MANY TWISTS AND TURNS IN THIS

不可思議的一週，在本週有很多曲折的地方。

ELECTION.

選舉：

WHAT'S IT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU WATCHING EVERYTHING UNFOLD THIS

對你來說，看著這一切的發展是什麼感覺？

WEEK?

周？

>> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY NAILS LEFT BUT I'M TRYING TO EAT WHAT

>> 是的，我沒有任何的指甲離開，但我試圖吃什麼。

I HAVE LEFT.

我已經離開了。

IT'S BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY LESSON -- CIVICS LESSON FOR SO

這是一個非常奇怪的教訓 - 公民課，所以...

MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALIZE THIS IS HOW IT ALL GOES DOWN

很多人不知道這就是所有事情的結局

BECAUSE WE ARE HYPERFOCUSED RIGHT NOW, WE'RE VERY NERVOUS.

因為我們現在很專注，我們很緊張。

THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE, THERE'S A CIVIL WAR GOING ON, THE

這事關係重大，有一場內戰正在進行中。

BATTLEFIELD IS THE SOUL OF AMERICA.

戰地是美國的靈魂。

THE POLITICS ARE HIGHLY PITCHED.

政治是高度投擲的。

THE IDEOLOGIES ARE HIGHLY CONTESTED, AND PEOPLE ARE

思想是高度競爭的，而人們是

FEELING VERY SANCTION AND YET, AT THE SAME TIME, FOR THE MOST

感到非常神聖，但同時，對於最

PART, THIS IS WHAT GOES ON EVERY TIME.

部分，這就是每次都會發生的事情。

IT TAKES SEVERAL DAYS TO A WEEK TO STEAMS TWO WEEKS -- SOMETIMES

它需要幾天到一週的時間來蒸餾兩個星期 -- 有時

TWO WEEKS, PEOPLE FIGURING THE VOTES OUT, BUT USUALLY SOMEBODY

兩週來，人們在摸索著投票，但通常有人會這樣做。

HAS CONCEDED, SOMEBODY HAS CLAIMED VICTORY AND WE CAN MOVE

有人認輸了，有人宣稱取得了勝利，我們可以移動... ...

ON.

ON：

NOW BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH AT STAKE, PEOPLE ARE RATHER MORE

現在，因為有這麼多的利益關係，人們寧願更多的

ANXIOUS ABOUT THE OUTCOME AND INVESTED IN A WAY WE'RE NOT

對結果感到焦慮，並以我們沒有的方式進行投資。

USUSUALLY SEEING AT LEAST OVER T LAST 20 YEARS.

USUSUALLY SEEING AT LEAST T OVER LAST 20 YEARS.

>> James: YOU TWEETED YESTERDAY A BRILLIENT TWEET ON

>> 詹姆斯。你今天在微博上發了一條很好的微博。

BEHALF OF BLACK PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, YOU'RE WELCOME,

代表世界各地的黑人，歡迎你。

AMERICA, WHICH I LOVE.

美國，我愛的。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

>> James: EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IMPORTANT THE BLACK VOTE HAS

>> 詹姆斯：向我解釋一下黑人投票的重要性

BEEN IN THIS ELECTION.

一直在這次選舉中。

>> OH, IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

>> 哦，這是非常重要的。

THE BLACK VOTE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THROUGH SO

黑人的選票在過去幾年中一直非常重要。

MANY ELECTIONS BUT RARELY ACKNOWLEDGED, BARELY RECOGNIZED,

許多選舉，但很少被承認，很少被承認。

EVEN AMONG, QUITE FRANKLY, THE DEMOCRATS, TO WHOM BLACK PEOPLE

即使是民主黨人，老實說，黑人對他們來說也是如此。

ARE RELIABLY COMMITTED AND LOYAL.

是可靠的承諾和忠誠的。

BUT THERE'S BEEN A NEGLIGENCE ON THE PART OF THE REPUBLICANS AND

但共和黨和美國人之間存在著分歧

A KIND OF TAKING FOR GRANTED ON THE PARTS TO HAVE THE DEMOCRATS,

某種程度上說，民主黨人是想得到民主黨人的支持。

BUT THIS ELECTION SHOWED US, LOOK AT THE BIG STATES.

但這次選舉讓我們看到了，看看那些大州。

YOU HAD MICHIGAN, DETROIT'S POPULATION IS 79% BLACK.

你有密歇根州，底特律的人口有79%是黑人。

THEY WERE THE KEY VOTER THERE.

他們是那裡的關鍵選民。

LOOK AT GEORGIA, ATLANTA IS 52% BLACK.

看看格魯吉亞，亞特蘭大是52%的黑人。

LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA, PHILADELPHIA IS 42% BLACK.

看看賓夕法尼亞州，費城有42%是黑人。

AND LOOK AT WISCONSIN, MILWAUKEE IS 39% BLACK.

看看威斯康星州，密爾沃基是39%的黑人。

WHEN YOU PUT THAT IN AGGREGATE ALONG WITH THE FACT BLACK WOMEN

當你把這句話和黑人婦女的事實放在一起時。

BLEW IT OUT OF THE WATER VOTING IN THE HIGH 90s FOR THIS

把它從水裡吹出來，在高90年代的投票中為這個

TICKET AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE IN GENERAL WERE DEEPLY

滴滴和非洲裔美國人一般都有很深的感情。

COMMITTED TO IT DESPITE THE VOTER SUPPRESSION, THE ATTEMPTS

儘管選民受到壓制，但仍致力於此。

TO HAVE ROBO CALLS TO DISSUADE THEM OR MISINFORMATION AND THE

有ROBO電話來勸阻他們或誤導他們，並對他們進行宣傳。

ATTEMPTS BY MANY GOVERNORS OF SOUTHERN CITIES TO SUPPRESS THE

南方許多城市的政府試圖壓制政府的行為。

VOTE AND THROW PEOPLE OFF THE ROLLS, DESPITE ALL THAT, WE

投票，把人從名單上趕下來，儘管如此，但我們

SHOWED UP AND SHOWED OUT AND DID AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB.

出現了，出現了，做了一個超常的工作。

AND BLACK WOMEN IN PARTICULAR HAVE BEEN USED TO SAVING THIS

黑人婦女特別是已經習慣了拯救這一切。

DEMOCRACY AND THE BLACK VOTE DID IT AGAIN.

民主和黑人選票又做了。

>> James: AS FROM THE MOMENT WE'RE TAPING,

>> 詹姆斯。從現在開始，我們正在錄製。

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN IS WINNING IN GEORGIA, A STATE THAT HASN'T

副總統比登在喬治亞州獲勝，這個州還沒有贏過

VOTED BLUE SINCE I THINK 1992.

從1992年開始我就投了藍色票

>> RIGHT.

>> 右邊。

>> James: IT FEELS INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT TO ME.

>> 詹姆斯。對我來說，這感覺無比重要。

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROLE STACEY ABAMS HAS PLAYED.

你能談談史黛西-艾伯斯扮演的角色嗎？

>> STACEY ABRAMS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.

>> STACEY ABRAMS一直是令人難以置信的。

EVEN THOUGH SHE DEFLECTS ATTENTION UPON HERSELF, SHE HAS

即使她忽略了對自己的關注，但她有

BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.

一直都很特別

SHE HAN FOR GOVERNOR LAST TIME AROUND, THE SITTING SECRETARY OF

上㆒次她參選總督時，英國政府的司庫曾說：「我們是㆒個很好的例子。

STATE IN AN UNCONSCIONABLE SITUATION, PURGED SOMETHING LIKE

狀態在一個無法控制的情況下，淨化的東西，如。

500,000 PEOPLE OFF THE GEORGIA VOTING ROLES, A DISPROPORTION

500,000人不在格魯吉亞的選舉名單上，這是一種墮落。

THAT NUMBER OF WHOM ARE BLACK, AND STACEY ABRAMS, WHEN SHE LOST

該數字的人是黑人， 和STACEY亞伯拉罕，當她失去了，

BY A RAZOR MARGIN, SAID I'M NOT GOING TO CRY IN MY BEER OR CRY

我說我不會在我的啤酒裡哭，也不會哭。

OVER SPILLED MILK, I'M GOING TO ACTIVATE, I'M GOING TO BECOME AN

溢出的牛奶，我要活動，我要成為一個

ORGANIZER.

組織者：

NOT ONLY DID SHE RESTORE 500,000 PEOPLE, SHE ADDED ANOTHER

她不僅恢復了50萬人口，還增加了另一個人。

300,000 IN TERMS OF REGISTERING TO VOTE FOR AN AGGREGATE OF

300,000美元，用於登記投票給某一集團。

800,000 PEOPLE.

800,000人。

SHE DID THIS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

她在幾年內做了這個。

THE GROUND GAME WAS EXTRAORDINARY AND SHE WAS

地面遊戲是異常的，她是。

WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

日復一日的工作。

THIS IS NOT THE SEXY STUFF.

這不是性感的東西。

THIS IS NOT APPEARING ON TELEVISION.

這不是出現在電視上。

THIS IS NOT MAKING SPEECHES.

這不是在做演講。

THIS IS NOT ORGANIZING PEOPLE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

這不是組織人們在聚光燈下。

THIS IS THE UNSEXY, EVERYDAY WORK OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE

這是不性感的，每天的工作 試圖讓人們

TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET REGISTERED TO VOTE.

團結起來，確保他們能夠得到登記投票。

SO IN THAT SENSE SHE WAS CARRYING FORWARD ANOTHER PERSON

所以從這個意義上說，她是把另一個人帶過去了。

IN HER STATE THE GREAT JOHN LEWIS WHO DIED THIS YEAR, AND

在她的狀態下，偉大的約翰-劉易斯誰死了今年，和。

ISN'T IT INTERESTING AND WOULDN'T IT BE REMARKABLE THAT

是不是很有趣，是不是很值得注意的是，

IT WOULD BECOME GEORGIA, AND IT'S NOW ABOUT WHAT, 4,000

它將成為喬治亞州，它現在是什麼，4,000

SOME -- 4,000 VOTES THAT MR. BIDEN IS AHEAD, WOULDN'T IT

有些... ...4000票，BIDEN先生領先，是不是？比登是領先的，不是嗎？

BE INTERESTING THAT GEORGIA WOULD PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE

令人感興趣的是，喬治亞州將發揮重要作用。

WITH THE DEATH OF JOHN LEWIS WHO LITERALLY GOT BEATEN AND NEARLY

隨著約翰-劉易斯的死亡，他真的被毆打，並幾乎

BEAT TO DEATH FOR TRYING TO VOTE, SACRIFICING HIS BODY LIMB

因試圖投票而被毆打致死，犧牲了他的肢體。

BY LIMB TO MAKE SURE THAT BLACK PEOPLE COULD VOTE AND NOW THIS

由LIMB來確保黑人的投票權，現在這個

OUTCOME IS ESPECIALLY DELICIOUS AND EXTRAORDINARILY UPLIFTING.

結果是特別的美味和超乎尋常的提升。

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> James: IT REALLY IS.

（歡呼聲和掌聲） >> 詹姆斯：它確實是。

I MEAN, IN AMONGST THIS WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH TRUMP

我的意思是，在這一切與特朗普發生的事情中...

AND THE VOTE COUNTS AND WHEN WILL IT BE CALLED AND ALL THESE

以及投票數和何時開票等所有這些問題

THINGS, IT FEELS SOMEHOW THAT -- THAT WE'RE MISSING THE FACT THAT

事情，它感覺有些... ... 我們錯過了一個事實，即：

WE MIGHT HAVE THE FIRST FEMALE AND PERSON OF COLOR

我們可能會有第一個女性和有色人種。

VICE PRESIDENT EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY.

國家歷史上有史以來的副主席。

IS THIS -- DID YOU EVER EXPECT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN IN YOUR

這是... ... 你有沒有想過要在你的生活中看到這種情況？

LIFETIME?

LIFETIME？

>> I MEAN, FIRST, WE HAD BARACK OBAMA.

>> 我是說，首先，我們有了巴拉克-奧巴馬。

WE NEVER EXPECTED THAT.

我們從來沒有想到，。

BUT TO SEE A BLACK WOMAN IN A POSITION OF SUCH EXTRAORDINARY

但看到一個黑人婦女處於如此特殊的地位

AUTHORITY -- NOW, JAMES CORDEN, I'M A BLACK MAN.

權威 - 現在，詹姆斯・科登，我是一個黑人。

THAT MEANS BLACK WOMEN ALREADY RUN MY LIFE.

這意味著黑人婦女已經控制了我的生活。

SO I'M USED TO WHAT AMERICA IS GOING TO GET USED TO, THAT BLACK

所以，我已經習慣了美國將要習慣的東西，那個黑人。

WOMEN WITH POISE, DECENCY AND EXCELLENCE AND SPIRIT WILL

有氣質、正直、優秀和精神的婦女將：

EXERCISE A LEVEL OF AUTHORITY.

鍛鍊一個層次的權力。

AND KAMALA HARRIS I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND TO HAVE

而卡馬拉-哈里斯我已經認識了好幾年了，而且還認識了

THE FIRST BLACK AND SOUTHEAST ASIAN WOMAN AS PART OF OUR

首位黑人和東南亞婦女作為我們的一部分的情況

AMERICAN POLITICAL ORDER, THAT SHE HAS ASCENDED THIS HIGH INTO

美國的政治秩序，她已經上升到如此之高的地位。

THE AMERICAN CASTE IS A REMARKABLE THING AND I THINK SHE

美國的卡斯特是一件了不起的事情，我想她

WILL PROVIDE, I THINK, INCREDIBLE LEADERSHIP AND PROVE

我認為，將提供無可比擬的領導力，並證明了這一點。

TO BE A WORTHY SUPPORTER FOR HOPEFULLY AND I THINK WE CAN

成為HOPEFULLY的值得支持的人，我想我們能做到。

PREDICT IT WILL BE THE CASE THAT JOE BIDEN WILL BE THE PRESIDENT

預測喬-比登將成為總統。

OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

美利堅合眾國聯邦共和國總統府。

( APPLAUSE ) >> James: THERE'S SO MUCH TO

( 掌聲 ) >> 詹姆斯:有這麼多的

FEEL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IN EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, AND I

在你說的每一句話中都感到樂觀，而我... ...

KNOW THAT YOU'VE MET PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE, AND I'M

我知道你以前見過特朗普總統，而我... ...

INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD GET FIVE MINUTES WITH HIM NOW,

我很想知道你現在能不能和他談5分鐘。

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM IN THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW?

在現在這個時刻，你會對他說什麼？

>> I WOULD SAY, SIR, DESPITE YOUR MANIFEST GIFTS OF

>> 我想說，先生，儘管你有明顯的天賦，但我想說的是，你是一個很有天賦的人，你是一個很有天賦的人。

COMMUNICATION, AND WHAT EVERYONE CAN SAY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, THE

溝通，以及大家對唐納德-特朗普的評價。

ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE HIS IDEAL AND TO GALVANIZE HIS BASE AND TO

溝通他的理想和加強他的基礎的能力，並能夠

MOTIVE THEM, EVEN IF TO HORRIBLE EFFECT AND DELETERIOUS

激勵他們，即使是可怕的效果和刪除。

CONSEQUENCE, THE POINT IS HE HAS GOT THOSE GIFTS.

後果，重點是他得到了這些天賦。

I WOULD SAY TO HIM, SIR, YOU WASTED SO MUCH TIME.

我想對他說，先生，你浪費了太多時間。

YOU WERE A BIRTHER AGAINST PRESIDENT OBAMA.

你是奧巴馬總統的親生父親。

YOU HAVE SAID HORRIBLE THINGS AGAINST AFRICAN COUNTRIES AND

你對非洲國家說了一些可怕的話，而且...

CARIBBEAN COUNTRIES.

加勒比國家：

YOU HAVE DEMONIZED THE OTHER.

你已經把另一個人變成了魔鬼。

YOU HAVE TURNED THIS COUNTRY INTO A HORRIBLE CESSPOOL OF

你們把這個國家變成了一個可怕的垃圾場。

BIGOTRY.

BIGOTRY。

YOU HAVE STOOD UP EVERY MORNING TO EXCRETE THE FECES OF YOUR

你每天早上都要站起來給你的家人排洩糞便。

MORAL DEPRAVITY.

道德淪喪；

>>> AT THIS INTO A NATION YOU'VE TURNED INTO YOUR PSYCHIC

>>在這個國家，你已經變成了你的心理醫生。

COMMODE, AND HOW TRAGIC THAT IS.

COMMODE，以及如何TRAGIC是。

YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS GREAT LEGACY OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND USED

你已經採取了這個偉大的遺產 美國民主，並使用。

IT AS A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR PERSONAL ENRICHMENT AND FOR THE

把它作為你的個人發展的工具，併為你的生活提供便利。

ENLARGEMENT OF YOUR EGO.

擴大你的自我。

THIS IS NOT WHAT GREAT LEADERS DO.

這不是偉大的領導者所做的。

AND THE REASON I STOOD IN PLACE TO SUPPORT JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA

以及我留在原地支持喬-比登和卡馬拉的原因。

HARRIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BRING AND RESTORE TO

因為我相信，他們會給我們帶來和恢復到。

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY A DECENCY AND A RESPECT FOR THE OTHER, AND

美國的民主是一種禮貌和對他人的尊重，以及

THEY WON'T USE THEIR BULLY PULPIT TO BEAT UP ON THE TRUMP

他們不會用他們的牛糞杆子去打特朗普。

SUPPORTERS.

支持者：

WE ARE DIVIDED AS A NATION.

我們作為一個國家是分裂的。

WE HAVE HORRIBLE CIVIL WARS GOING ON RIGHT WHERE WE ARE.

我們有可怕的內戰正在進行，就在我們所在的地方。

THE POINT IS NOT TO POINT TO THEM AND SAY, AH-HA, YOU BIGOTS,

重點不是指著他們說，啊哈，你們這些笨蛋。

YOU WERE STIGMATIZING PEOPLE OF COLOR.

你在鼓勵有色人種。

NO, LET'S FIND THE RESOURCES TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

不，讓我們找到資源，把人們團結在一起。

LET'S OVERCOME THE NASTINESS, THE BITTERNESS AND BELLIGERENCE

讓我們克服討厭的，討厭的和卑鄙的行為。

AND FORM A NATION.

並組成一個國家。

HOW ABOUT THE MODEL OF AMERICA, E PLURIBUS UNUM, OUT OF MANY

美國的模式如何，E PLURIBUS UNUM，在許多人中，如何

ONE.

一：

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO, AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT

這就是我們要做的事，我想我們有一個很好的選擇。

OPPORTUNITY WITH JOE BIDEN AS PRESIDENT AND KAMALA HARRIS AS

喬-比登任主席和卡馬拉-哈里斯任副主席的機會。

VICE PRESIDENT TO DO JUST THAT.

副主席就是這樣做的。

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> James: IT IS ALWAYS SO

( 歡呼聲和掌聲 ) >> 詹姆斯:它總是如此

ENLIGHTENING TO TALK TO YOU ANYTIME YOU ARE IN OUR ORBIT,

在我們的軌道上，任何時候都能和你交談，這讓人很興奮。

YOU MAKE ALL OF US FEEL A LITTLE LIGHTER, A LITTLE MORE

你讓我們所有人都感覺更輕鬆了，更有力量了。

OPTIMISTIC.

OPTIMISTIC。

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FINDING THE TIME TO TALK TO US TODAY.

謝謝你能抽出時間來和我們談話。

WE LOVE IT EVERY TIME YOU'RE ON THE SHOW, AND I HOPE THAT YOU

我們喜歡你每次上節目，我希望你也喜歡

WILL KEEP COMING BACK AND KEEP COMING BACK.

會繼續回來，繼續回來。

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現在。

IT IS MORE THAN WORTHY OF YOUR TIME.

它是非常值得你的時間。

DR. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, EVERYBODY.

博士，邁克爾・埃裡克・戴森，大家。邁克爾・埃裡克・戴森博士，每個人。

WHEN WE COME BACK, TALKING TO HENRY GOLDING.

當我們回來的時候，跟亨利-戈爾丁談話。

STICK AROUND, EVERYONE!

堅持下去，大家！