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  • >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

  • MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A FORMULA ONE DRIVER WHO JUST BECAME A

  • SEVEN-TIME WORLD CHAMPION, TYING THE RECORD HELD BY MICHAEL

  • SCHUMACHER.

  • >> HE FIND HIMSELF ALONGSIDE MICHAEL SCHUMACHER AS TOP IN THE

  • RECORD BOOKS, THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP RECORD, LEWIS

  • HAMILTON WINS THE TURKISH GRAND PRIX.

  • >> FOR ALL THE KIDS OUT THERE WHO DREAM THE IMPOSSIBLE, YOU

  • CAN DO IT, TOO, MAN.

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE, FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

  • >> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW," LEWIS HAMILTON!

  • LEWIS, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

  • I'M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE.

  • >> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT FORMULA ONE, BUT I AM ALL

  • SWEPT UP IN YOUR EMOTIONS THERE AT THE END OF THIS RACE.

  • TELL ME WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR HEAD AT THAT MOMENT THAT WE

  • SAW ON TAPE JUST NOW?

  • >> WELL, STEPHEN, I'VE BEEN RACING FOR 27 YEARS.

  • I STARTED WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.

  • THE DREAM WAS TO GET TO FORMULA ONE, AND I GREW UP WATCHING

  • MICHAEL SCHUMACHER WIN ALL OF THOSE RACES AND THOSE TITLES AND

  • I'M FINALLY THERE.

  • THE LAST THREE LAPS, I KNEW THAT I WAS COMING INTO THE WEAK END,

  • AND IF I HAD WON THE RACE, I WOULD BE WORLD CHAMPION.

  • BUT THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG SO, YOU KNOW,

  • YOU JUST HAVE TO TRY AND STAY FOCUSED, NOT DROP BULL, AND I

  • THINK AS I WAS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER THOSE LAST THREE

  • LAPS, REALIZING THAT IT MAY JUST BE A REALITY THAT IT'S REALLY

  • GOING TO HAPPEN.

  • I THINK JUST ALL THE EMOTIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE YEARS

  • OF MY DAD WORKING AT ONE TIME THREE, FOUR JOBS JUST TO KEEP ME

  • RACING AND TRULY BELIEVING IN ME.

  • I THINK ALL THOSE CAME THROUGH.

  • THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE CRIED IN THE CAR, SO IT WAS REALLY

  • EMOTIONAL.

  • >> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT KEEPING THAT CAR ON THE GROUND

  • IN THIS RACE.

  • THE RACETRACK IN ISTANBUL WAS SO SLICK, THE DRIVERS WERE SLIPPING

  • DURING PRACTICE WHEN THE WEATHER WAS FINE.

  • BUT THEN THERE WAS RAIN OVER THE WEEKEND.

  • WHAT WERE THOSE CONDITIONS LIKE FOR YOU.

  • I MEAN, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THIS SPORT, PEOPLE

  • ARE MARVELING AT A LEVEL THAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE.

  • EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS WERE LIKE.

  • >> YES, SO THEY-- WE HADN'T BEEN TO THIS TRACK FOR MAYBE 10

  • YEARS-- YEAH, NINE YEARS.

  • SO THEY RESURFACED THE CIRCUIT, SO IT WAS NEW TARMAC THAT YOU

  • WOULD HAVE ON A HIGHWAY.

  • BUT THERE'S BASICALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS SO DIRTY.

  • AND USUALLY, LIKE, OVER THE WEEKEND IT GETS MORE AND MORE

  • RUBBER FROM THE TIRES AND IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER, BUT IT

  • WASN'T HAPPENING.

  • >> Stephen: MAYBE THEY WERE RESURFACING IT WITH TEFLON.

  • >> MAYBE IT WAS A CHEAP JOB.

  • I DON'T KNOW.

  • AND THEN IT RAINED.

  • AND WHEN IT RAINS, IT'S USUALLY THE HARDEST CONDITIONS TO RACE

  • IN, IN GENERAL.

  • BUT AT THIS TRACK TIFS LIKE ICE.

  • I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DRIVERS HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT,

  • ESPECIALLY IN MY FORMULA ONE YAR.

  • THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL, THE FOCUS YOU NEEDED TO HAVE WAS SO

  • INTENSE.

  • I SLEPT MOST OF TODAY JUST TRYING TO RECOVER BECAUSE NOT

  • ONLY DO YOU LOSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ENERGY ON THE MENTAL

  • SIDE, YOU CAN LOSE UP TO 10 POUNDS IN THE RACE.

  • THIS ONE WAS COLD, SO I ONLY LOST, LIKE, FIVE POUNDS.

  • >> Stephen: JUST IN SWEAT?

  • OR OTHER FLUIDS?

  • >> ( LAUGHS )

  • SWEAT.

  • >> Stephen: BECAUSE I THINK I WOULD LOSE SOME WEIGHT DAMN

  • QUICK IF I TOOK A CORNARTY 150 MILES AN HOUR.

  • >> DEFINITELY, PUT ANOTHER WAY.

  • >> Stephen: YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 27 YEARS.

  • YOU'VE DREAMED OF DOING FORMULA ONE WHEN YOU WERE JUST A KID.

  • WE HAVE A CLIP HERE I WANT TO SHOW THE AUDIENCE.

  • THIS IS-- DO YOU KNOW HOW OLD ARE YOU IN THIS CLIP?

  • YOU WERE BEING INTERVIEWED BECAUSE YOU WERE CART RACING AT

  • THE TIME.

  • >> I THINK I WAS 10 OR 11.

  • >> WE WENT TO BELGIUM, AND THE SPEED THEY WERE DOING.

  • IT WAS AMAZING, BECAUSE YOU DONT ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT IT WHEN

  • YOU'RE WATCHING THE TV.

  • AND MY CART FEELS REALLY POWERFUL WHEN I'M IN IT.

  • BUT IMAGINE BEING IN A FORMULA ONE CAR.

  • IT MUST BE VERY POWERFUL.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU-- WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU SEE

  • THAT FOOTAGE?

  • >> I-- I IMAGINE IT'S THE SAME FOR ANYONE WATCHING BACK WHEN

  • THEY WERE A KID.

  • IT'S EMBARRASSING.

  • >> Stephen: NO, NOT AT ALL!

  • YOU SEEM PRETTY SELF-POSSESSED AS A 10-YEAR-OLD.

  • WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL THAT 10-YEAR-OLD KID NOW, THAT

  • SEVEN-TIME WORLD CHAMPION?

  • >> I THINK IT WOULD BE JUST TO NEVER DOUBT YOURSELF AND

  • CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN YOURSELF ALWAYS.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, I'M HUMAN, AND LIKE ALL OF US, WE

  • HAVE OUR UPS AND DOWNS.

  • AD, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONSTANTLY BATTLING THE MIND IN TRYING TO--

  • IN TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE IMPOSSIBLE.

  • AND THERE ARE DAYS WHERE IT FEELS LIKE IT MIGHT NOT WORK.

  • IT FEELS-- YOU KNOW, THOSE STAGES THROUGH MY CAREER THAT I

  • DIDN'T THINK-- THERE WERE DAYS I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOOD ENOUGH.

  • I WASN'T GOING TO MAKE IT.

  • AND I WOULD GO OUT FOR A LONG RUN, GET BACK IN THE CAR, GET

  • BACK ON THE HORSE AND KEEP PUSHING AND NEVER GIVE UP.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING MY DAD INSTILLED IN

  • ME, I THINK, AS A KID.

  • >> Stephen: AND IT HAS BEEN CHALLENGING AT TIMES.

  • YOU'RE THE FIRST BLACK DRIVER IN THE 70-YEAR HISTORY OF FORMULA

  • ONE.

  • AND PEOPLE WERE NOT ALWAYS WELCOMING TO YOU.

  • >> YUP.

  • >> Stephen: AND YOU'VE RAISED AWARENESS OF BLACK LIVES MATTER.

  • YOU'VE ADVOCATED FOR INCLUSIVITY.

  • YOU SET UP SOMETHING CALLED "THE HAMILTON COMMISSION."

  • WHAT IS THAT?

  • >> YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE

  • CAN THE COOL RAINS" ALWAYS -- >> Stephen: WHICH ONE?

  • >> "COOL RUNNINGS."

  • >> Stephen: YES, I WAS.

  • >> WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, ALL THE BOBSLEDDERS

  • STAY COMPLETELY SILENT AND THEY WONDER WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO

  • BE DOING THERE.

  • AND IT WAS THE SAME FOR ME AND MY DAD WHEN WE ARRIVED FOR THE

  • FIRST TIME AT THE GO-CART TRACK.

  • THE GO-CART WAS FIFTH HAND.

  • AND WE ARRIVED SCRUFFY, AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE, WHAT, ARE

  • THESE GUYS DOING HERE?" WE WERE THE ONLY BLACK PEOPLE

  • THERE.

  • OF COURSE WE WERE NOT ALWAYS WELCOME BUT MY DAD AS YOU SAID,

  • "DO YOUR TALKING ON THE TRACK."

  • THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

  • WE KEPT OUR HEADS DOWN AND DID WHAT WE LOVED.

  • AND I MEAN-- AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT-- FORMULA ONE, THERE

  • WAS AN IDEA OF WHAT A FORMULA ONE DRIVER WOULD LOOK LIKE AND

  • HOW THEY SHOULD BEHAVE AND WHAT THEY SHOULD BE LIKE.

  • AND I NEVER REALLY FELT COMFORTABLE CONFORMING TO HOW

  • PEOPLE WOULD EXPECT.

  • BUT WHEN I GOT TO FORMULA ONE, I THOUGHT JUST US BEING THERE

  • WOULD HELP SHIFT AND BREAK DOWN BARRIERS AND HELP MAKE THE SPORT

  • MORE DIVERSE.

  • BUT I REALIZED AFTER 14 YEARS, LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT OF OUR

  • SPORT, IT IS STILL NOT DIVERSE.

  • IT IS STILL A MALE, WHITE-DOMINATED SPORT.

  • AND I WOULD ASK MY TEEM TEAM, "WHY AM I ONE OF THE ONLY

  • PEOPLE, OUT OF 2,000 PEOPLE IN MY TEAM, WHY AM I ONE OF ONLY A

  • HANDFUL OF MINORITIES?" AND I PUT TOGETHER THE HAMILTON

  • COMMISSION TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BARRIERS ARE AND WHAT THE

  • ROOT OF THE CAUSE IS, AND THROUGH THOSE FINDINGS FIND A

  • WAY TO HELP ENCOURAGE YOUNG BLACK KIDS GETTING INTO STEM

  • ROLES, INTO ENGINEERING IN THIS INDUSTRY.

  • AND I HOPE THAT-- YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN THE

  • COMMISSION THAT ARE IN POLITICS ON THE GROUND, THAT CAN REALLY

  • CHANGE THE LEGISLATION, RULES, AND PUSH ON THE GROUND IN

  • COMMUNITIES TO HELP ENCOURAGE THESE KIDS.

  • >> Stephen: I WANT TO-- WE HAVE TO GO IN A MOMENT, BUT I

  • WANT TO ASK YOU ONE LAST QUESTION.

  • I'M CURIOUS, WHENEVER I MEET SOMEONE WHO IS AT THE TOP OF

  • THEIR GAME, IN WHATEVER THE SPORT SI'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION:

  • IS THERE A MOVIE ABOUT YOUR SPORT THAT GET IT RIGHT?

  • LIKE "FORD VERSUS FERRARI," "TALLADEGA NIGHTS?"

  • >> I'M A BIG FAN OF "TALLADEGA NIGHTS," PERSONALLY.

  • WHEN HE'S ON FIRE.

  • I LOVE THAT.

  • I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE RACING MOVIES ARE ALWAYS REALLY

  • DIFFICULT.

  • I THINK THEY'RE VERY, VERY TRICKY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND,

  • I GUESS.

  • I GUESS IT'S A HARD SPORT FOR PEOPLE TO RELATE TO.

  • BUT THE "FORD VERSUS FERRARI" I THINK THEY DID SUCH A GREAT JOB.

  • THERE ARE TWO GREAT INCREDIBLE ACTORS.

  • I LOVE THAT.

  • IT ALMOST ENCOURAGED ME TO GO AND DRIVE SOME OF THOSE CARS.

  • >> Stephen: YOU HAVE SEVEN WORLD TITLES NOW.

  • YOUR CONTRACT WITH MERCEDES IS UP THIS YEAR.

  • WHAT'S NEXT?

  • >> I'VE GOT TO GET A NEW CONTRACT.

  • NO, I BET -- >> Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKE TO

  • BE SPONSORED BY A CBS TALK SHOW?

  • >> UH...

  • I'M INTERESTED.

  • I'VE GOT SPACE.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY, GOOD.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) MY FACE ON YOUR HOOD.

  • I'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> THEY SELL THESE VISORS SO, I'M OPEN.

  • >> Stephen: SO NICE TO MEET YOU.

  • THANKS FOR BEING HERE, LEWIS.

  • >> STEPHEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

  • >> Stephen: YOU CAN SEE HIS NEXT RACE ON NOVEMBER 29 ON ESPN.

  • LEWIS HAMILTON, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY ANDREA BOCELLI.

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