What is the latest?

He's looking for a second opinion.

What are we expecting?

They're trying to get a sense of timetable for when they might be able Thio reasonably expect him back.

As we discussed yesterday, you have to prepare for him missing at least two or three weeks here.

They haven't yet put him on injured reserve this year.

If you go on injured reserve, you have to miss a least three games.

So depending on what comes back, they'll make a decision about what to do about that.

If they know he's going to miss three or more games, they'll put him on injured reserve.

Give themselves the roster flexibility.

If they think there's a chance he comes back sooner than that, then you might not see them make that move so well, Gnome.

Or when these tests come back.

Our Ed Werder reporting on this obviously has had a lot of detail.

We'll continue to follow him, but yeah, he's waiting to see what he can expect in terms of ah healing timetable, which really varies from patient to patient with injuries.

But to be clear, I mean that the notion that he wouldn't miss three weeks with.

This would be very optimistic, right?

Very often it's unlikely that it would be that soon.

And it's important, I think, for people who are listening to understand that.

Unlikely it would be that soon.

But again, they don't know.

They're trying to get a better sense of it, and these second opinions that come back should help with that.

So that leaves Jamis, Winston and Taysom Hill, and we'll see exactly how they decided to do it.

Let me bring the guys in here and figure out what we can expect again.

NEEK and R.

C and David Pollock and R.

C.

I will just start with you because this is a team that is somewhat near and dear to your heart, at least geographically.

If this team has to play without Drew Brees for an extended period of time, they were unbeaten with Adam last year.

Can they do that again?

Mhm.

I think they can.

I think they could be really good, but I also think that they could be really different.

I mean, take it back to about 1997 in the Minnesota Vikings when Brad Johnson went out and Randall Cunningham became the starting quarterback.

It changed the entire dynamic off that offense.

They were explosive.

They pushed the ball down the field.

They got a little bit more exciting.

And he didn't have some of these skilled players like the album Camara in the backfield.

Obviously, he had the weapons on the outside.

I'm expected.

Jamis, Winston toe Have to learn a little bit of the old with the new.

If you're showing Peyton, you want a little bit of the old Jamis Winston, you want a guy that could push it down the scene that Jerry Cooke get it outside to Emmanuel Sanders into Michael Thomas?

But you also want him to understand if you don't have that right away, if you don't have the matchup, you have guys like Alvin Kamara that you can check the ball down to.

I believe that the Saints can be very good offensively through these weeks.

Without Drew Brees, I believe they could be unpredictable.

I believe they could be explosive, so you can't count the Saints out.

And just think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are gonna move in and take over the NFC South when you have a experienced quarterback like Jamis Winston with a great coach like Sean Payton.

I get it.

I wanna make sure that I'm understanding what you're saying.

And that circumstance that was Brad Johnson and Randall Cunningham basically took over the job.

This is Drew Brees we're talking about.

So I'm gonna make sure that I'm not hearing you say that if Jameis Winston plays really well, that might wind up being his team going into the playoffs.

Even if breezes healthy, that would be completely out of the question.

I'm not.

Yeah, I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is this offense can be that type of explosive.

Now, with a different quarterback with a different skill set, I get it on.

But clearly it would then revert.

Right, Nick, I'm looking at the look on your face.

I mean, they become explosive if they become explosive, is gonna be hard to go back with Drew Brees because one thing they are not under the current Drew Brees um, iteration is explosive.

So I think that they don't They don't need very much from Jamie's.

What they got from Teddy Bridgewater last year was about average quarterback play, which was good enough with that defense that they had.

Now that they're defense is starting to play, Ah, lot better than it has an early parts of the season.

I think that James doesn't have to do very much, But under Sean Payton, I think maybe James can achieve some higher level of learning and will allow him toe execute in a way that we're not used to, because we know he had three coordinators and three coaches down in Tampa Bay in that situation, and it didn't work out for him, despite the fact that he was really great moments in really bad figure out how to eliminate the bad is gonna be the hard part.

That's the task for us.

Sean Payton, because he's not like Teddy Bridgewater.

Teddy Bridgewater is a lot more careful with the ball than James.

Frankly, just about everybody is a lot more careful with the ball than James.

Teddy.

Bridgewater is a lot more like Drew Brees.

There was a really similarity there and so it made sense that that would work that you would just one guy would step in and take over David, this is obviously entirely different.

You're bringing in a guy who, at least the body of his work to this point, has been the opposite of Drew Brees and Teddy Bridgewater.

How good do you expect them to be with Jameson, quarterback David?

First of all, I got a kick out of the way.

You introduced it.

You're just like, hey, fractured ribs, collapsed lungs, maybe three weeks.

We'll see him again.

I mean, that's just crazy talk that we're talking like that, but, you know, Listen, when you look at this offense last year five and O with Teddy Bridgewater, Look who they play the next four weeks, you're gonna get the Falcons twice.

You're gonna get the Broncos.

You're obviously those air going to be wins.

You've seen them play this season.

So the Eagles, we've seen them.

That's a win.

And then they play the Chiefs.

And they were gonna lose that with Drew Brees regardless.

So I think this offense is more about Sean Payton, the weapons.

But what Nick said, I am very interested to see because right now it's dink and dunk galore with Drew Brees.

He doesn't throw the football down the field.

Jamis maybe stretches it.

Maybe Sean Payton has a little bit more fun and and does some different things.

And just you gotta wait for that or that turnover bug with Jameis Winston because it comes kind of just a matter of when.

If the coaches having fun with Jameis Winston throwing the ball down the field, he'd be the first one who's had that experience, and I want to come back to this a little later in the show.

On what?

What this could mean for James, who was the first pick in the draft and has a real chance to resurrect his career.

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