We want to wish a happy 45th birthday toe white chocolate.

Jayson Williams.

Vince, What was it like to play against him?

Bubs?

Man, sure it was.

It was It was man.

I don't even know where to start.

Like I've known J will for a very long time.

I was introduced to him, uh, from from Nick Anderson.

But, like I said, playing against him, it was amazing.

Obviously watching this, this kid who became white chocolate do what he does.

And that's what used to see the street ball.

He brought that to the game.

That flare.

He was fearless.

I mean, and and as a teammate way, we're both teammates.

Wait a minute in Orlando.

And I'll tell you what, man.

He's, uh he's a character.

He's a great person to be around, man.

Uh, all right, you know what happens when you talk?

Definitely.

Somewhere on the golf course right now.

Guaranteed.

Rachel, you know what happens when you turn 45 right?

You know what?

45.

That MBA pitch.

That MBA pitcher kicks in.

I know he happy.

Oh, it's a party the next Let's talk.

Talk about them.

They're moving up in the draft.

They're acquiring the 23rd pick from the Jazz in exchange for the 27th and 38th pick.

Perk.

What do you want to see the Knicks do in this draft?

I want to see them move up, but I want to stay.

Have to draft will.

I want to see them draft a point guard.

You know, I've been high on the Knicks, possibly trying to move up to get Lemelle.

Oh, ball, He's what they need.

But they have to do well in this draft.

The Knicks.

If they want to start building, they're going the right direction.

For once.

They have to draft will, and they gotta be starting with Melo.

But they gotta find a way to move up.

Rachel.

We'll see if they can go up and get him.

I want to talk about a new teammates situation.

Chris Paul Devin Booker already spotted playing ball together at the former home of Suns owner Robert Sarver.

Matt, do you think this trade guarantees a playoff spot for the Sons?

I think it does.

I think they'll be in that by just seven range Um I think Chris Paul is gonna make Devin Booker possibly lead the league in scoring with his ability to set him up and take some pressure off him and and help facilitate.

So Devin could really focused on scoring.

And then I think he's gonna take the big man.

I'm forgetting his name.

For some reason, I think he's gonna take a d e.

I think it's gonna take Aidan's game to the to the next level.

Chris has a track record with Big Tyson, Chandler, DeAndre Jordan and Clint Capela.

He makes those guys all got all those guys a lot of money.

Look for it to happen.

The same thing here.

Yeah, Chris Paul.

Making everyone around him better and such a touch with the young guys in Oklahoma City.

I'm sure he will bring that to Phoenix as well.

All right, I want to stick with the Western Conference here, guys checking out today's keys to success brought to you by K.

As we mentioned at the top of the show, James Harden wants out of Houston, but the Rockets in no rush to trade him.

That begs the question.

Vince, what is fair trade value for Harden.

Is there even such a thing?

E mean, that's the question.

What is fair?

I mean, I heard perks say something about that earlier.

I mean, you might not get be exact value, but you need to try to get us close to possible.

I mean, you're talking about when you're getting you have this dollar.

You're trying to make change.

You're not.

You know, you're trying to make you trying to get that dollar and change, however you can get it.

So, uh, it might have to be a three team trade or something, But right now, like I said, if I'm the g m, I'm outside of going against going after the the top four or five players in the league like you're gonna have to go through different channels.

Thio kind of make up for that.

Um, I think obviously, when you traded a player of James's caliber, you're not gonna get someone back unless you're trading directly for a superstar.

So it's gonna have to be a bunch of young talent and draft picks.

Um, so I think that's only the only way you kind of make that work.

So it'll be interesting to see what direction they move, whether it be Philly, whether it be, uh, Brooklyn.

Uh, but you know what?

Uh, the rockets have control the keys to the car right now.

Oh, absolutely.

And I tell you all one thing and I said before James Harden is, they drop top Rose Royce, and they're not trading him for escalate.

So the rockets, right now they're holding tight.

They are holding tight, and they're not just about to give James Harden away.

Get the Anthony Davis trade.

Look, the pelicans One big time.

They got the number one pick.

Brandon Ingram laws.

Oh, ball.

They got a lot back.

They even got heart back.

So when you look at this situation, unless you about the land of Kyrie Irving for James Harden, which is not happening, or Ben Simmons along with a pick, the rock is enough.

Well, look, our draft insiders are MBA.

Insiders have said that if there is a trade either tonight on draft night or in the coming month, that it would be the Rockets want an All Star, and they want a lot of picks.

But perk, I actually like your analysis framing better drop top roles.

Voice does not get an Escalade back.

I think we're just gonna use that on the bottom line from now on, before we go.

Guys, I just want to congratulate a Trailblazer.

You know, Devin Booker and Karl Anthony towns have been wrapped by Leon Rose.

He, of course, went to go run the Knicks.

So now both players are gonna be wrapped by CH Jessica Holtz.

She's the first woman to represent to Max players.

Those guys air in very good hands.

And I gotta say, I love to see all the ways the women of the MBA are making noise.

We see women in the front office now, certainly on the bench, to be coaches and in player representation as well.

Congrats to Jessica and congrats, pro in the town.

Got a good one.

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