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  • Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm  Dan and joining me today is Neil. Hey Neil.

  • Hello Dan. What's on the agenda today?

  • Well, I'll give you a clue. It's something that  makes the world go round, but it doesn't really  

  • exist. In fact, if we all stopped believing in  it, it would have no use at all! What is it?

  • I haven't got a clue!

  • Ok...how about this?

  • Money!

  • Yep! And not just any money, we're  talking about crypto-currency.

  • Currency is the money that's being used  in a given country at a certain time.  

  • But what about the cryptopart?

  • Well, crypto is a prefix meaning hidden  or secretit comes from the word cryptic  

  • which means mysterious or difficult to understand.  

  • You may have heard about the most popular  crypto-currency at the moment, the Bitcoin.

  • Well, I've certainly heard the namebut I can't say I know what it is.

  • First our quiz question. When was the  Bitcoin crypto-currency first created?

  • a) 2004

  • b) 2009

  • c) 2013

  • Well, I think 2004 may have been  a little early, and I think 2013  

  • could be a little late, so  the smart money's on 2009.

  • We'll see if you're right later on in the  show. SoBitcoin, what do you know about it?

  • Well, I know it's a digital currencyso  presumably, you can use it online to buy things?

  • You are right on the moneywhich means correct, both times.  

  • Bitcoin is just like any other  currency except for two things.  

  • First, it's not printed by governments or  banks, which means that it's not legal tender.

  • Legal tender means the official money  that can be used within a country.  

  • So that means we can't use it to  pay taxes or settle debts, right?

  • Exactly. Governments won't recognise it as an  official currency, although it acts just like  

  • one. You can use it to buy items from anyone  who will accept it, and its value fluctuates.

  • Fluctuates means changes in level or  amount. And what's the second thing?

  • Ah, the second thing is that bitcoin is a digital  currency, meaning that with the exception of a few  

  • tokens, it largely exists online only. You can't  carry a load of bitcoins around in your pocket!

  • Well, that makes a nicechange!

  • Oh dear, Neil. Was that a money pun? Terrible!

  • So if it's a digital only currencywhere do new ones come from?  

  • Can't I just say that I've gotmillion of them and make myself rich!?

  • Well, no. You see, even though Bitcoin  is not regulated by a bank or government,  

  • it still has a process that stops people from  cheating. There are only two ways to get bitcoins.  

  • You either trade them from  someone, or you go mining.

  • Oh wait, I've heard about this. This is when  you use your computer to run calculations which  

  • verify other Bitcoin transactions. You get  rewarded for this 'work' by earning bitcoins.

  • Yep! It's money for old rope, which  means it's an easy way to earn money.

  • Wow! I'm going to start mining immediately!

  • Well, you wouldn't be the only one!  

  • Bitcoin's value has recently gone up quite a lot  and this has caused a lot of interest. In fact,  

  • one stock exchange in Chicago has begun  trading in Bitcoin futures contracts.

  • A futures contract? What's that?

  • I'll let BBC correspondent  Rory Cellan-Jones explain that.

  • A futures contract, a bet on where  the currency will be a month from now,  

  • soared above 18,000 dollars. That means that  investors believe Bitcoin, which started the  

  • year worth under 1000 dollars will continue  to rise in value, albeit at a slower rate.  

  • But at the big banks there's still  plenty of scepticism about the currency.

  • Soared in this context means  increased very quickly. So,  

  • now big investors are betting on  the value of Bitcoin in the future.

  • Yes. But he also mentioned that the banks  have a lot of scepticism. That's a doubt  

  • that something is real or true. In this  case, whether Bitcoin is reliable or not.

  • Maybe it's best I don't get involved thenAfter all, a fool and his money are soon parted.

  • Well, you don't have to be sceptical  about the answer to our quiz.  

  • We know that for a fact. I asked you when the  Bitcoin crypto-currency was first created.

  • a) 2004

  • b) 2009

  • c) 2013

  • And I said 2009.

  • And you were right! Well done. Shall  we go over the vocabulary again?

  • First, we had currency. That's the money being  used in a given country at a certain time.  

  • Name three currencies and their countries, Dan.

  • Ok. Baht for Thailand. Rupee for India and  my favourite, Metical for Mozambique. Next  

  • we had cryptic. Something which is cryptic  is mysterious or difficult to understand.  

  • For example, what do rich people need, poor  people have and if you eat it, you die?

  • A cryptic riddle indeed! I'll  have to think about that.  

  • Then we had legal tender, that's the official  money that can be used within a country.  

  • The Euro is legal tender within Spainbut what was the legal tender before that?

  • Wasn't it the Peseta? Then we had  fluctuates. If something fluctuates,  

  • it changes in amount or levelThe stock market fluctuates.

  • But my love for my family never does. Then we  had soared, which means increased very quickly.  

  • It's used with this meaning in the  context of money, prices and statistics.

  • Finally, we had scepticism. Scepticism is doubt  

  • that something is real or true. What sort  of things are people sceptical about, Neil?

  • Some people think that human activity hasn't  caused climate change. They are sceptical.

  • And that brings us to the end of today's 6 Minute  English. Don't forget to check out our Youtube,  

  • Facebook, Twitter and Instagram pagesand we'll see you next time. Goodbye.

  • Goodbye

  • Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm Rob.

  • And I'm Dan.

  • Hey Dan. What's the time?

  • Time you got a new watch?

  • Now I didn't ask you that just forjoke or a sarcastic comment now did I?

  • Well no, but look there's a clock  over there, you are wearing a watch,  

  • you have a smartphone and a computer, all of  which show the time. So why are you asking me?

  • Dan! I was trying to introduce today's topic  which is all about virtual assistants or bots.  

  • You seemed to have forgotten the script.

  • Oh yes, sorry. We're talking  about software that you talk to  

  • and that can talk back to you. Like Apple's  Siri, Google's Assistant, Amazon's Alexa  

  • and Microsoft's Cortana. It might be on your  phone or computer or even a speaker in your house.

  • Now before we hear more about this  topic, here is today's quiz question:  

  • Do you know when was the first computer which  could recognise speech, launched? Was it in

  • a) 1951

  • b) 1961

  • c) 1971

  • I have found my script, so I've seen the  answer but I have to say I was surprised.

  • Don't tell anybody, Dan, OK. We'll give the answer  for the listeners at the end of the programme.  

  • We're going to hear now from Tom Hewitson, who  is a conversation designer, working in the field  

  • of virtual assistants, talking on BBC Radio  4's Word of Mouth programme. He talks about  

  • the whole idea of virtual assistants and how they  are changing the way we interact with technology.  

  • How does he describe our existing  relationship with computers?

  • It changes the way that we think about computersTo date we've thought of them largely as  

  • tools. They're just an advanced version ofcalculator. They're something you kind of use  

  • to get a specific thing done, whereas this is  kind of changing them more into like an agent.  

  • They're an active participant in the interaction  and in guiding you to make the right decision.

  • How did he describe our existing  relationship with computers then?

  • He said that to date, which is an expression  which means 'up until this point in time',  

  • we have thought of them as advanced calculators.

  • Yes, that's right, we use them  as a tool to get things done.  

  • But he says that modern technology is turning them  into an agent. This doesn't mean a secret agent,  

  • like James Bond! In this sense an  agent is something that has agency  

  • and that means it has the ability to act  individually and make its own decisions.

  • I'm not sure I'd like my phone to have agency. It  probably wouldn't like being in my pocket all day.

  • Who would Dan? But I'm not sure Hewitson  is suggesting our devices would become  

  • that clever but he did say they could  become more active in our lives.

  • Maybe. I imagine, for example,  

  • telling us if we are spending too  much time in fast food restaurants?

  • Maybe in your case Dan. Mine would be  telling me I spend too much time in the gym!  

  • Hewitson goes on to explain how the way we will  talk to our virtual assistants will develop.  

  • What does he say we don't need to do?

  • We will develop our own kind of vernacular  for speaking with machines that will be  

  • subtly different from how we  speak to other people because  

  • as you rightly point out you don't need to make  the machine like you don't need to kind of make  

  • random chit-chat that's just filling the timeIt can be much more brusque and to the point.

  • A lot of what we say in human communication  

  • is to do with our relationship  with the person we're talking to.

  • We say things and talk about things that are maybe  not directly relevant to our point. With a digital  

  • virtual assistant, we don't need to do thatso we don't need to make the machine like us.

  • Hewitson said that we will develop our own  vernacular, this is a general word for a native  

  • language. This vernacular will be a little bit  different from our everyday vernacular because,  

  • as we said, we don't need to maintain a social  relationship with the artificial assistant.

  • This means that we won't need chit-chatChit-chat is another expression for small talk:  

  • conversation topics which aren't important  but are part of everyday social communication,  

  • like talking about the weather.

  • And because we don't need to be  friends with our virtual assistants,  

  • we can be brusque and to the point. Both of  these mean being very direct and not very polite.

  • Well, Dan, I don't mean to be brusque but it is  time for the answer to this week's quiz question.  

  • Earlier I asked when was the first  computer which could recognise speech,  

  • launched. The options were:

  • a) 1951

  • b) 1961

  • c) 1971

  • Well actually the first computer which  could recognise speech was launched in 1961.

  • It was called the IBM Shoebox and could  recognise 16 words and the numbers zero  

  • to nine. That's nearly as many as you!

  • Cheeky! Right enough of this chit-chatLet's recap today's vocabulary.

  • Well, chit-chat was one of today's  expressions. Meaning 'small talk',  

  • but we also had the expression to dateThat means 'up until this moment in time'.

  • Then we had the noun agent. This  refers to something that has agency.  

  • And that is the ability to thinkmake decisions and act independently.

  • The next word is vernacularanother word for language,  

  • particularly when talking about a native language.

  • And finally, there was brusque meaning  'direct and not polite' and to the point,  

  • which also means 'direct and  without unnecessary information'.

  • Hey Rob

  • Yes, what can I do for you Dan?

  • End the programme.

  • Certainly Dan. Well that's all from us todaybe sure to check us out on all the usual places:  

  • Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube,  

  • and of course please don't forget our  website bbclearningenglish.com. Bye for now!

  • Bye!

  • Hello. This is 6 Minute English  from BBC Learning English. I'm Neil.

  • And I'm Sam. What's the  matter, Neil? You sound upset.

  • Well, I am, Sam - I just spent  an hour working on my computer  

  • when it suddenly froze. I lost everything  and had to start all over again!

  • Agghh, that's so frustrating - like pop-up  internet ads and buffering videos that never play!

  • Modern computers and the internet have  revolutionised the way we live today,  

  • bringing us the world with a click of a button.  

  • But not everyone feels happy about  these technological developments.

  • While potentially acting asforce for good and progress,  

  • the internet also provides a way of spreading  hate and misinformation. And for some people,  

  • the World Wide Web remainsmysterious and confusing place.

  • In this programme, we'll hear about  a new academic subject called Web  

  • Science. Web Science studies the  technology behind the internet.

  • But from the human side, it's  also interested in how people  

  • interact with each other online. So we'll  be asking whether studying Web Science  

  • could make the internet better  for humanity in the future.

  • But first it's time for our quiz question. I  wonder what the pioneers of the internet would  

  • think about how it is used today. So the question  is, who invented the World Wide Web? Was it

  • a) Bill Gates

  • b) Tim Berners-Lee, or c) Steve Jobs

  • Well, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were the  brains behind Microsoft and Apple Mac,  

  • so I'm going to say c) Tim Berners-Lee.

  • OK, Sam, we'll find out later. Nowbecause of coronavirus the annual Web  

  • Science conference was held online this yearIts theme was 'making the web human-centric'.

  • One of the conference's key speakers, and  co-founder of the new discipline of Web Science,  

  • was Dame Wendy Hall. Here she is speaking  to BBC World Service's Digital Planet:

  • People think about the web as a technology  but actually it's co-createdby society.  

  • We put the content on, we interact with the  technology, with the platforms, with the social  

  • media networks to create it. What we study is how  that works as an ecosystem,this coming together  

  • of people and technology, and it's very  interdisciplinary, very socio-technical,  

  • and of course these dayslot of it is powered by AI.

  • Web Science is not only interested in  the technology side of the internet.  

  • As a subject it's very interdisciplinary  - involving two or more academic subjects  

  • or areas of knowledge. Web Science  combines digital technology with  

  • subjects ranging from psychology and  robotics to economics and sociology.

  • Exchanges between humans and the internet can  be seen in social media networks - websites,  

  • apps and computer programmeslike Facebook and Instagram,  

  • which allow people to use electronic devices  to communicate and share information.

  • This view of technology sees the internet as an  ecosystem – a complex pattern of relationships  

  • and mutual influences that exists between  all living things and their environment.

  • One ongoing and topical example of  websites helpfully interacting with humans  

  • is the Covid contact tracing app.

  • You might think the mobile phone app, which  tracks movements and contact between people  

  • to combat coronavirus, would be a useful  practical application of internet technology.

  • But as Carly Kind, Director of the  Ada Lovelace Institute in Cambridge,  

  • explained to BBC World Service's Digital  Planet, things are never that straightforward:

  • Actually, there's a lot of more fundamental  questions that haven't been answered yet such as:  

  • is Bluetooth even an adequate mechanism for  doing what it says on the tin, which is detecting  

  • contact between two people? The trails so far  show that it's not actually that great and so,  

  • do we know for sure that these apps work  and they work in the way we want them to?  

  • Do we get the public health  information that we need?

  • Apps like this are designed to  support public health - services  

  • to improve the standard of health  of a country's general population.

  • But Carly thinks the mechanisms used must be  suitable and adequatethey must actually work or  

  • do what it says on the tinan informal idiom  meaning work exactly as it is intended to.

  • To find this out, trials - tests  to discover how effective or  

  • suitable something is - are  carried out over a period of time.

  • The kind of trials which were carried out during  

  • the invention of the internet  in the first place, right, Neil?

  • Ah yes, the invention of the internetor  to be more accurate, the World Wide Web. In  

  • our quiz question I asked you who invented  the World Wide Web? What did you say, Sam?

  • I said b) Tim Berners-Lee.

  • Well, you're a first class web scientistSam, because that's the correct answer!

  • Great! In this programme, we've been hearing about  Web Science, a new interdisciplinary subject,  

  • combining several areas of study, which  investigates the ecosystem of the internetthe  

  • complex pattern of interconnections  between humans and their environment.

  • Social media networkswebsites and appslike Facebook, which let people use electronic  

  • devices to communicate on the internetshow how  humans and technology can successfully interact.

  • A new Covid contact tracing app is currently  undergoing trialstests to see if it works  

  • effectively. This will discover if it does what  it says on the tinworks as it's supposed to.

  • If successful, by alerting people to  coronavirus risks the app will support  

  • public healthservices aimed at improving  the health of the general population.

  • And that's all from us for now.

  • And we hope you'll join us again soon  for more topical English vocabulary  

  • here at 6 Minute English. Bye for now!

  • Bye bye!

  • Hello and welcome to 6 Minute  English. I'm Catherine.

  • And hello, I'm Rob.

  • Today we have another technology topic.

  • Oh good! I love technology. It makes things  easier, it's fast and means I can have gadgets.

  • Do you think that technology can  actually do things better than humans?

  • For some things, yes. I think cars that drive  themselves will be safer than humans but that  

  • will take away some of the pleasure of drivingSo I guess it depends on what you mean by better.

  • Good point, Rob. And that actually  ties in very closely with today's topic  

  • which is technochauvinism.

  • What's that?

  • We'll find out shortly, Rob, but before we dotoday's quiz question. Artificial Intelligence,  

  • or A.I., is an area of computer science that  develops the ability of computers to learn  

  • to do things like solve problems or drive cars  without crashing. But in what decade was the term  

  • 'Artificial Intelligence' coined? Was it: a) the 1940s, 

  • b) the 1950s or c) the 1960s?

  • I think it's quite a new expression  so I'll go for c) the 1960s.

  • Good luck with that, Rob, and we'll give  you the answer later in the programme.  

  • Now, let's get back to our  topic of technochauvinism.

  • I know what a chauvinist is. It's someone  who thinks that their country or race or sex  

  • is better than others. But how  does this relate to technology?

  • We're about to find out. Meredith Broussard is  Professor of Journalism at New York University  

  • and she's written a book called  Artificial Unintelligence.  

  • She appeared on the BBC Radioprogramme More or Less to talk about it.  

  • Listen carefully and find out her  definition of technochauvinism.

  • Technochauvinism is the idea that technology is  always the highest and best solution. So somehow  

  • over the past couple of decades we got into the  habit of thinking that doing something with a  

  • computer is always the best and most objective  way to do something and that's simply not true.  

  • Computers are not objective, they are  proxies for the people who make them.

  • What is Meredith Broussard's  definition of technochauvinism?

  • It's this idea that using technology  is better than not using technology.

  • She says that we have this idea that a computer is  objective. Something that is objective is neutral,  

  • it doesn't have an opinion, it's  fair and it's unbiasedso it's  

  • the opposite of being a chauvinist. But  Meredith Broussard says this is not true.

  • She argues that computers are not objectiveThey are proxies for the people that make them.  

  • You might know the word proxy when you  are using your computer in one country  

  • and want to look at something that is  only available in a different country.  

  • You can use a piece of software  called a proxy to do that.

  • But a proxy is also a person or a thing that  carries out your wishes and your instructions  

  • for you. So computers are only as smart or as  objective as the people that programme them.  

  • Computers are proxies for their programmersBroussard says that believing too much in  

  • Artificial Intelligence can make the  world worse. Let's hear a bit more.  

  • This time find out what serious problems in  society does she think may be reflected in AI?

  • It's a nuanced problem. What we  have is data on the world as it is  

  • and we have serious problems with  racism, sexism, classism, ageism,  

  • in the world right now so there is no such thing  as perfect data. We also have a problem inside the  

  • tech world where the creators of algorithms do  not have sufficient awareness of social issues  

  • such that they can make good technology that  gets us closer to a world as it should be.

  • She said that society has problems with  racism, sexism, classism and ageism.

  • And she says it's a nuanced problem. A nuanced  problem is not simple, but it does have small  

  • and important areas which may be hard  to spot, but they need to be considered.

  • And she also talked about algorithms used  to program these technological systems.  

  • An algorithm is a set of instructions  that computers use to perform their tasks.  

  • Essentially it's the rules that they use  to come up with their answers and Broussard  

  • believes that technology will reflect the  views of those who create the algorithms.

  • Next time you're using a piece of software or your  favourite app you might find yourself wondering if  

  • it's a useful tool or does it contain these little  nuances that reflect the views of the developer.

  • Right, Catherine. How about the  answer to this week's question then?

  • I asked in which decade was the term  'Artificial Intelligence' coined.  

  • Was it the 40s, the 50s or the 60s?

  • And I said the 60s.

  • But it was actually the 1950s. Never mindRob. Let's review today's vocabulary.

  • Well, we had a chauvinistthat's  someone who believes their country,  

  • race or sex is better than any others.

  • And this gives us technochauvinism,  

  • the belief that a technological solution  is always a better solution to a problem.

  • Next - someone or something that is  objective is neutral, fair and balanced.

  • A proxy is a piece of software but also someone  who does something for you, on your behalf.  

  • A nuanced problem is a subtle one, it's  not a simple case of right or wrong,  

  • in a nuanced problem there are small but  important things that you need to consider.

  • And an algorithm is a set of software  instructions for a computer system.

  • Well, that's all we have time  for today. Goodbye for now.

  • Bye bye!

  • Hello, welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm Rob.

  • And I'm Catherine.

  • So, Catherine, how long do  you spend on your smartphone?

  • My smartphone? Not that long  really, only about 18 or 19 hours.

  • No, sorry, I meant in a day, not in a week.

  • Er, that's what I meant too, Rob – a day.

  • Oh wow, so you've even got it right here

  • yep, got it now, Rob. Yes, I should  tell you that I suffer from FOMO.

  • FOMO?

  • FOMO - Fear of Missing Out. Something cool or  interesting might be happening somewhere, Rob,  

  • and I want to be sure I catch itso I have to keep checking my phone,  

  • to make sure, you know, I  don't miss out on anything.

  • So we could call you a phubberHello… I said,  

  • so you're a phubber? Someone who ignores other  people because you'd rather look at your phone.

  • Oh, yeah, that's right.

  • It sounds like you have a bit of a problem  there, Catherine. But you're not the only one.  

  • According to one recent survey, half of teenagers  in the USA feel like they are addicted to their  

  • mobile phones. If you are addicted to somethingyou have a physical or mental need to keep on  

  • doing it. You can't stop doing it. You often hear  about people being addicted to drugs or alcohol,  

  • but you can be addicted to other things toolike mobile phones. So, Catherine, do you  

  • think you're addicted to your phone? How long  could you go without it? Catherine? Catherine!

  • Sorry, Rob, yes, well I think  if I went more than a minute,  

  • I'd probably get sort of sweaty palms and  I think I'd start feeling a bit panicky.

  • Oh dear! Well, if I can  distract you for a few minutes,  

  • can we look at this topic in more detail  please? Let's start with a quiz question  

  • first though. In what year did the term  'smartphone' first appear in print? Was it:

  • a) 1995 

  • b) 2000 c) 2005

  • What do you think?

  • OK, you've got my full attention  now, Rob, and I think it's 2000,  

  • but actually can I just have a quick  look on my phone to check the answer?

  • No, no, that would be cheatingfor  youmaybe not for the listeners.

  • Spoilsport.

  • Right, Jean Twenge is a psychologist who  has written about the damage she feels  

  • smartphones are doing to society. She has  written that smartphones have probably led  

  • to an increase in mental health problems for  teenagers. We're going to hear from her now,  

  • speaking to the BBC. What does she say is  one of the dangers of using our phones?

  • I think everybody's had that experience  of reading their news feed too much,  

  • compulsively checking your phone if you're  waiting for a text or getting really into  

  • social media then kind of, looking up  and realising that an hour has passed.

  • So what danger does she mention?

  • Well, she said that we can get so involved in  our phones that we don't notice the time passing  

  • and when we finally look up, we  realise that maybe an hour has gone.  

  • And I must say, I find that to be true for meespecially when I'm watching videos online. They  

  • pull you in with more and more videos and I've  spent ages just getting lost in video after video.

  • Well that's not a problem if  you're looking at our YouTube site,  

  • of course - there's lots to see there.

  • Yes, BBC Learning English, no problemYou can watch as many as you like.

  • Well, she talks about checking our phones  compulsively. If you do something compulsively you  

  • can't really control it - it's a feature of being  addicted to something, you feel you have to do it  

  • again and again. Some tech companies, though, are  now looking at building in timers to apps which  

  • will warn us when we have spent too long on themDoes Jean Twenge think this will be a good idea?

  • It might mean that people look  at social media less frequently  

  • and that they do what it really should be used  for, which is to keep in touch with people but  

  • then put it away and go see some of those  people in person or give them a phone call.

  • So, does she think it's a good idea?

  • Well, she doesn't say so directly, but we  can guess from her answer that she does,  

  • because she says these timers will make people  spend more time in face-to-face interaction,  

  • which a lot of people think would be a good thing.

  • Yes, she said we should be using it for keeping in  touch with people - which means contacting people,  

  • communicating with them and also encouraging  us to do that communication in person. If you  

  • do something in person then you physically do it –  you go somewhere yourself or see someone yourself,  

  • you don't do it online or through your smartphonewhich nicely brings us back to our quiz question.  

  • When was the term smartphone first used in print  - 1995, 2000 or 2005? What did you say, Catherine?

  • I think I said 2005, without  looking it up on my phone, Rob!

  • That's good to know, but maybe looking at your  phone would have helped because the answer was  

  • 1995. But well done to anybody who did know that.

  • Or well done to anyone who looked it up  on their phone and got the right answer.

  • Mmm, right, before logging off  let's review today's vocabulary.

  • OK, we had FOMO, an acronym that means 'Fear of  Missing Out'. Something that I get quite a lot.

  • And that makes you also a phubber - people  who ignore the real people around them  

  • because they are concentrating on their phones.

  • Yes, I do think I'm probably  addicted to my phone. I have a  

  • psychological and physical need to  have it. My smartphone is my drug.

  • Wow, and you look at it compulsivelyYou can't stop looking at it,  

  • you do it again and again, don't you?

  • It's sadly true, Rob. To  keep in touch with someone  

  • is to contact them and share your news regularly.

  • And if you do that yourself  by actually meeting them,  

  • then you are doing it in person. And that  brings us to the end of today's programme.  

  • Don't forget you can find us on the usual  social media platformsFacebook, Twitter,  

  • Instagram and YouTube - and on our website  at bbclearningenglish.com. Bye for now.

  • Bye!

  • Hello. This is 6 Minute English  from BBC Learning English. I'm Neil.

  • And I'm Georgina.

  • Now, Georgina, what do you know about AC DC?

  • You mean the Australian rock'n'roll band?  

  • Well, their 1979 hit 'Highway to  Hell' stayed at No.1 for eleven weeks

  • No, no, no - not that AC DC, Georgina!  I'm not talking rock music here,  

  • I'm talking electrical currents  – alternating current - AC,  

  • and direct current - DC, the two  ways in which electricity flows.

  • Oh, I see. No, I don't know  anything about that ACDC!

  • Well, don't worry because in  today's programme we'll be  

  • finding out some quirky facts about  electricity - how it differs across  

  • the world and why some countries have more  complicated electrical systems than others.

  • Hmmm, I have noticed that whentravel to another country I need a  

  • converter plug to connect my laptopIs that something to do with AC DC?

  • Yes, it could be. Of course, electricity  itself doesn't change from country to country.

  • No. It's an invisible, natural force  at work in everything from lightning  

  • storms to the electrical sparks firing our brains.

  • But although it happens naturally, one scientist  was credited with discovering electricity.  

  • Who? That's my quiz questionwho  discovered electricity? Was it

  • a) Thomas Edison 

  • b) Alexander Graham Bell, or c) Benjamin Franklin

  • I'm not a qualified electrician myselfNeil, but I'll say c) Benjamin Franklin.

  • OK. Well one person who definitely is a qualified  electrician is BBC presenter Gareth Mitchell. So  

  • when BBC Radio 4's 'Science Stories' sent  him to meet electricity expert Keith Bell,  

  • the conversation was, shall we say, sparky.

  • Standard frequency in the US is 60 hertzactually I think in the US on the mainland  

  • US, main continent, there are  three different synchronous areas.  

  • So although it's around 60 hertz, at any moment in  time these three different areas, because they're  

  • not connected to each other, will be going atslightly different frequency. There are bigger  

  • differences elsewhere. So in Japan for example, I  think one of the main islands is at 60 hertz and  

  • the other half of Japan is at 50 hertz. That's a bit of a pickle!

  • Generally speaking, frequency  means how often something repeats.  

  • In the case of electrical currents, frequency is  

  • the number of times an electrical wave  repeats a positive-to-negative cycle.

  • It's measured in hertz (Hz). In the US power is  at 60 hertz and in the UK it's around 50 hertz.

  • So the US and UK are not in the same synchronous  

  • areanot occurring together at the same  time and rate, or in this case, frequency.

  • Which means that to safely useBritish electrical device in America,  

  • I need to convert the power supply. If not  it won't work or even worse, it could break.

  • And a broken laptop could leave you  in a bit of a picklean informal  

  • expression meaning a difficult situation with no  

  • obvious answer. Here's Gareth and Keith  again talking about more differences.

  • I'm pretty sure when I go to the United Statesmy electric toothbrush doesn't charge up  

  • at 60 hertz - 110 volts, but my laptop  still works. Maybe you have no comment,  

  • Keith, but I'm just sayingone of these  anomalies that I seem to have found.

  • So, I'm not sure about the electric toothbrush  but I know a lot of our power supplies for  

  • laptops and stuff are solid state, you know  - they've got electronics in that do all the  

  • conversion for you, so basically it ends up with  a DC supply into the machine itself. So there's  

  • a little converter in there and it's designed so  it doesn't care what frequency the AC input is.

  • Gareth noticed that in the United  States his toothbrush doesn't always  

  • fully charge upget the  power needed to make it work.

  • Electric toothbrushes which don't fully charge  and differences between electrical frequencies  

  • are good examples of anomaliesthings which  are different from what is usual or expected.

  • But with modern technology these  anomalies are becoming less and less  

  • commonplace. For example, computer  companies have started making laptops with  

  • solid state electronicselectronics using  semiconductors which have no moving parts  

  • and can automatically convert  different electrical currents.

  • Meaning I can use my laptop to google  the answer to your quiz question!

  • Ah, yes. I asked you which scientist was credited  with discovering electricity. And you said?

  • c) Benjamin Franklinand I already know  I'm right because I googled it on my solid  

  • state laptop! To show that lightning was  electricity, Franklin attached a metal key  

  • to a kite and flew it during a thunderstorm. The  key conducted electricity and gave him a shock!

  • Hmm, not an experiment I recommend trying  at home! Today we've been talking about  

  • anomaliesor unexpected differences in  electrical currents between countries.

  • Electrical currents are measured in  frequenciesthe number of times  

  • a wave repeats a positive-to-negative cycleThese can be different if two countries are  

  • not synchronousoccurring at the same ratefor example Britain and the United States.

  • Different frequencies may mean your  electrical devices like your laptop,  

  • phone and toothbrush won't properly charge up –  get the power to function, in other countries.

  • And having a phone with no power could leave you  in a bit of a pickle - a difficult situation.

  • Fortunately many modern devices use  solid state electronicsnon-moving  

  • semiconductors inside the machine which  automatically convert the electrical current.

  • So you'll never miss another  edition of 6 Minute English again!

  • That's all for today. See you soon at BBC Learning  

  • English for more interesting topics  and related vocabulary. Bye for now!

  • Bye!

  • Hello I'm Rob and this is 6 Minute  English – a programme that brings you  

  • an interesting topic, authentic listening practice  

  • and some vocabulary to help you improve your  language skills. Joining me today is Neil.

  • Hello. And today we're discussing those pilotless  

  • aircraft that we seem to be hearing  and reading a lot about at the moment.

  • You mean drones. And yes, they are in the  news quite often for good and bad reasons.  

  • They've been used for many things from smuggling  drugs, detecting water leaks and surveillance.

  • And surveillancethat means 'the  act of carefully watching someone or  

  • something' – perhaps a criminalbut also  it means spying, maybe on me and you Rob?  

  • So should we be welcoming the  rise of the use of drones?

  • Well, before our discussion  about that 'takes off',  

  • we need to set today's question  for you to answer, Neil.

  • What are you droning on about Rob? And by  that I don't mean 'flying a drone' – I mean  

  • 'talking too much in a very boring way'!

  • Thanks Neil. Now just answer this, will you?  

  • Drones are sometimes also referred to as  UAVs. So, what does UAV stand for? Is it

  • a) Unidentified aerial vehicle 

  • b) Unmanned aerial vehicle c) Unaided aircraft vehicle

  • Well, I'm going to go for  b) unmanned aerial vehicle.

  • Ok well, we'll see if you're right later  on. Now let's talk more about drones,  

  • which, apparently, seem to be everywhere now.

  • But are they safe and are they  necessary? I've heard about them  

  • being a hazard to aircraft because  they've been flown close to airports.

  • Well, figures in 2016 showed that in the UK  there were 70 near misses involving drones.  

  • And that's more than double the year  before. So that is a little worrying.

  • Yes. And there's the potential  risk of people's privacy being  

  • invaded when a drone is flown over their  property with a camera attached to it.

  • Ah, but those cameras are also  good at capturing some great  

  • aerial footagethat's the film recording  of the view from the above the ground. So  

  • they're not all bad. And Dr Yoge Patel would  agree. She is CEO of Blue Bear, which supplies  

  • unmanned planes and drones. Here she is speaking  about drones on the BBC's Woman's Hour programme

  • They have the potential to be dangerousagreed. They also have though, on the flip side,  

  • the ability to be a game changer in  both domestic use and in military use.  

  • So, some of our drones are being used for aircraft  inspections. We've put our drones into Fukushima.

  • So there you go Neil. There are  many useful things drones can do,  

  • and Dr Patel said they have the  ability to be a game changer.

  • And by that you mean 'something that completely  

  • changes the way something  is done or thought about'.

  • Yes. Her company has used drones to  inspect the inside of the damaged  

  • Fukushima nuclear power station in JapanAnd another example of drones being a game  

  • changer is UNICEF and the Malawian government  testing drones for carrying medical supplies.  

  • This could help save lives in remote places. And I have read that in Australia,  

  • lifeguards are using drones to help rescue  swimmers who get in trouble in the sea.

  • And have you heard about a Japanese firm that's  planning to use a drone to force employees  

  • out of their offices by playing music at  them if they stay to work evening overtime.

  • I haven't, but you've convinced meit seems  like the sky's the limit for the uses of drones!  

  • I mean there's no limit to what they can do. But I  

  • am a little concerned about how  they are regulated or controlled.

  • Well Dr Yoge Patel says  because the technology is new,  

  • regulationsor legal controls  - are developing all the time

  • As technology progresses, regulation  and operational use needs to then be  

  • harmonised with it. And we are, as a communitygoing through that whole process of saying  

  • what is proportionate and appropriate  regulation to go with different uses of drones.

  • So she talked about regulations being  harmonised as technology progresses.

  • So I think she means 'making regulations  suitable and appropriate for what the drones  

  • are being used for'. So they need some controlbut not so they can't be useful and effective.

  • Like flying drones to stop you working late!  

  • Now Rob, I'm dying to know what  the other name for a drone is.

  • OK, let me tell you. So earlierasked what does UAV stand for? Was it

  • a) Unidentified aerial vehicle 

  • b) Unmanned aerial vehicle c) Unaided aircraft vehicle

  • And I said b) – was that correct?

  • Yes Neil, you know your dronesthat's correctWell done. UAVs or drones have been around for  

  • quite a while in different formsIt's thought they were first used  

  • for providing practice targets for  training military personnel. OK Neil,  

  • let's quickly go over some of the vocabulary we  have mentioned today, starting with surveillance.

  • "The police kept the jewellery shop  under surveillance because they had  

  • a tip-off about a robbery." So that means  'carefully watching someone or something,  

  • usually to try to stop something illegal'.

  • Then we mentioned aerial footage –  that's film recording made from the sky.  

  • "The aerial footage on TV of the  dolphins swimming was spectacular."

  • Yes, drones have been a game changer  for wildlife programmes on TV.  

  • That means 'something that completely changes  the way something is done or thought about'.

  • We also mentioned the phrase 'the sky's  the limit', meaning 'there's no limit  

  • to something'. "The sky is the limit to what  professional footballers can earn these days."

  • Then we discussed harmonisedthat describes  two things being suitable for each other to  

  • allow them to work properly. "The garden has been  designed to harmonise with the natural landscape."

  • Very useful vocabulary, Neil. But let's  stop droning onand that means 'talking  

  • too much in a boring way' - and remind  everyone to check out our You Tube,  

  • Facebook, Twitter and Instagram  pagesand of course, our website  

  • at bbclearningenglish.comSee you next time. Goodbye.

  • Goodbye

  • Hello. This is 6 Minute English, I'm Neil.

  • And I'm Sam.

  • It's good to see you again, Sam.

  • Really?

  • Yes, of course, can't you  tell by the way I'm smiling?

  • Ah well, I find it difficult to tell if someone  is really smiling or if it's a fake smile.

  • Well, that's a coincidence because today's  programme is all about how computers may  

  • be able tell real smiles from fake smiles better  than humans can. Before we get in to that though,  

  • a question. The expressions we can make  with our face are controlled by muscles.  

  • How many muscles do we have in our face? Is it:

  • A: 26 

  • B: 43 C: 62

  • What do you think, Sam?

  • No idea! But a lot, I'd  guess, so I'm going with 62.

  • OK. Well, we'll see if you'll be smiling or  crying later in the programme. Hassan Ugail is a  

  • professor of visual computing at the University of  Bradford. He's been working on getting computers  

  • to be able to recognise human emotions from the  expressions on our face. Here he is speaking on  

  • the BBC Inside Science radio programme –  how successful does he say they have been?

  • We've been working quite a lot on  the human emotions, so the idea is  

  • how the facial muscle movementwhich is reflected on the face,  

  • through obviously a computer through video  frames and trying to understand how these  

  • muscle movements actually relate to facial  expressions and then from facial expressions  

  • trying to understand the emotions or to infer the  emotions. And they have been quite successful in  

  • doing that. We have software that can actually  look at somebody's face in real time and then  

  • identify the series of emotions that  person is expressing in real time as well.

  • So, have they been successful in  getting computers to identify emotions?

  • Yes, he says they've been quite successfuland what's interesting is that he says that  

  • the computers can do it in real time. This means  that there's no delay. They don't have to stop and  

  • analyse the data, or crunch the numbersthey can do it as the person is talking.

  • The system uses video to analyse a person's  expressions and can then infer the emotions.  

  • To infer something means to get an understanding  of something without actually being told directly.  

  • So, you look at available information and use your  

  • understanding and knowledge  to work out the meaning.

  • It's a bit like being a detectiveisn't it? You look at the clues  

  • and infer what happened even if  you don't have all the details.

  • Yes, and in this case the computer looks  at how the movement of muscles in the face  

  • or facial muscles, show different  emotions. Here's Professor Ugail again.

  • We've been working quite a lot on the human  emotions so the idea is how the facial muscle  

  • movement, which is reflected on the facethrough obviously a computer through video  

  • frames and trying to understand how these muscle  movements actually relate to facial expressions  

  • and then from facial expressions trying to  understand the emotions or to infer the emotions.  

  • And they have been quite successful in doing  that. We have software that can actually  

  • look at somebody's face in real time and then  identify the series of emotions that person is  

  • expressing in real time as well. So, how do the computers know  

  • what is a real or a fake smile? The  computers have to learn that first.  

  • Here's Professor Ugail again  talking about how they do that.

  • We have a data set of real smiles and  we have a data set of fake smiles.  

  • These real smiles are induced smiles in a labSo, you put somebody on a chair and then show  

  • some funny movies and we expect  the smiles are genuine smiles.  

  • And similarly we ask them to pretend to smileSo, these are what you'd call fake smiles. So,  

  • what we do is we throw these into the machine  and then the machine figures out what are the  

  • characteristics of a real smile and what  are the characteristics of a fake smile.

  • So, how do they get the data that  the computers use to see if your  

  • smile is fake or genuinewhich  is another word which means real?

  • They induce real smiles in the lab by showing  people funny films. This means that they make  

  • the smiles come naturally. They assume that the  smiles while watching the funny films are genuine.

  • And then they ask the people to pretend to  smile and the computer programme now has a  

  • database of real and fake smiles and  is able to figure out which is which

  • Figure out means to calculate  and come to an answer

  • Yes, and apparently the system  gets it right 90% of the time,  

  • which is much higher than we humans can. Rightwell before we remind ourselves of our vocabulary,  

  • let's get the answer to the question. How  many muscles do we have in our face? Is it:

  • A: 26 

  • B: 43 C: 62

  • Sam, are you going to be  smiling? What did you say?

  • So I thought 62! Am I smiling, Neil?

  • Sadly you are not, you are using different  muscles for that sort of sad look!  

  • Actually the answer is 43. Congratulations to  anyone who got that right. Now our vocabulary.

  • Yesfacial is the adjective relating to face.

  • Then we had infer. This verb  means to understand something  

  • even when you don't have all the informationand you come to this understanding based  

  • on your experience and knowledge, or in  the case of a computer, the programming.

  • And these computers work in real timewhich means that there's no delay  

  • and they can tell a fake smile from a genuine onewhich means a real one, as the person is speaking.

  • They made people smile, or as the Professor  said, they induced smiles by showing funny films.

  • And the computer is able to figure out or  calculate whether the smile is fake or genuine.

  • OK, thank you, Sam. That's all  from 6 Minute English today.  

  • We look forward to your company next  time and if you can't wait you can find  

  • lots more from bbclearningenglish onlineon social media and on our app. Goodbye!

  • Bye!

  • Welcome to 6 Minute English, where we  bring you an intelligent topic and six  

  • related items of vocabulary. I'm Neil.

  • And I'm Tim. And today we're talking  about AIor Artificial Intelligence.

  • Artificial Intelligence is the ability  of machines to copy human intelligent  

  • behaviourfor example, an intelligent  machine can learn from its own mistakes,  

  • and make decisions based on  what's happened in the past.

  • There's a lot of talk about AI these days, Neilbut it's still just science fiction, isn't it?

  • That's not trueAI is everywhereMachine thinking is in our homes,  

  • offices, schools and hospitals. Computer  algorithms are helping us drive our cars.  

  • They're diagnosing what's  wrong with us in hospitals.  

  • They're marking student essaysThey're  telling us what to read on our smartphones

  • Well, that really does sound like science fiction  – but it's happening already, you say, Neil?

  • It's definitely happening, Tim. And an algorithmby the way, is a set of steps a computer follows  

  • in order to solve a problem. So can you tell  me what was the name of the computer which  

  • famously beat world chess champion Garry  Kasparov using algorithms in 1997? Was it… 

  • a) Hal

  • b) Alpha 60 or c) Deep Blue?

  • I'll say Deep Blue. Although I'm just guessing.

  • Was it an educated guess, Tim?

  • I know a bit about chess

  • An educated guess is based on knowledge and  experience and is therefore likely to be correct.  

  • Well, we'll find out later on how  educated your guess was in this case, Tim!

  • Indeed. But getting back to AI and  what machines can doare they  

  • any good at solving real-life problemsComputers think in zeros and ones don't  

  • they? That sounds like a pretty limited  language when it comes to life experience!

  • You would be surprised to what  those zeroes and ones can do, Tim.  

  • Although you're right that AI does  have its limitations at the moment.  

  • And if something has limitations there's a  limit on what it can do or how good it can be.

  • OKwell now might be a good time to listen  to Zoubin Bharhramani, Professor of Information  

  • Engineering at the University of Cambridge  and deputy director of the Leverhulme Centre  

  • for the Future of Intelligence. He's talking  about what limitations AI has at the moment.

  • I think it's very interesting how many of the  things that we take for grantedwe humans take  

  • for grantedas being sort of things we don't  even think about like how do we walk, how do we  

  • reach, how do we recognize our mother. You knowall these things. When you start to think how  

  • to implement them on a computer, you realize that  it's those things that are incredibly difficult to  

  • get computers to do, and that's where  the current cutting edge of research is.

  • If we take something for granted we  don't realise how important something is.

  • You sometimes take me for granted, I think, Neil.

  • No – I never take you for grantedTim! You're far too important for that!

  • Good to hear! So things we take for granted  are doing every day tasks like walking,  

  • picking something up, or recognizing somebodyWe implementor performthese things without  

  • thinkingWhereas it's cutting edge research  to try and program a machine to do them.

  • Cutting edge means very new and  advanced. It's interesting isn't it,  

  • that over ten years ago a computer  beat a chess grand masterbut the  

  • same computer would find it incredibly  difficult to pick up a chess piece.

  • I know. It's very strange. But now you've reminded  me that we need the answer to today's question.

  • Which was: What was the name of the  computer which famously beat world chess  

  • champion Garry Kasparov in 1997? Now, you said  Deep Blue, Tim, andthat was the right answer!

  • You see, my educated guess was  based on knowledge and experience!

  • Or maybe you were just lucky. So, the IBM  

  • supercomputer Deep Blue played against US  world chess champion Garry Kasparov in two  

  • chess matches. The first match was played in  Philadelphia in 1996 and was won by Kasparov.  

  • The second was played in New York City in 1997  and won by Deep Blue. The 1997 match was the  

  • first defeat of a reigning world chess champion  by a computer under tournament conditions.

  • Let's go through the words we  learned today. First up was  

  • 'artificial intelligence' or AIthe ability  of machines to copy human intelligent behaviour.

  • There are AI programs that can write poetry.”

  • Do you have any examples you can recite?

  • Afraid I don't! Number twoan algorithm is  a set of steps a computer follows in order to  

  • solve a problem. For example, “Google changes its  search algorithm hundreds of times every year.”

  • The adjective is algorithmicfor example,  “Google has made many algorithmic changes.”

  • Number threeif something has 'limitations'  – there's a limit on what it can do or how good  

  • it can be. “Our show has certain limitations  – for example, it's only six minutes long!”

  • That's rightthere's only time to present  six vocabulary items. Short but sweet!

  • And very intelligent, tooOK, the next item is 'take  

  • something for granted' – which is when we  don't realise how important something is.

  • We take our smart phones for granted these  daysbut before 1995 hardly anyone owned one.”

  • Number five – 'to implement' – means  to perform a task, or take action.

  • Neil implemented some changes to the show.”

  • The final item is 'cutting edge' – new and  advanced – “This software is cutting edge.”

  • The software uses cutting edge technology.”

  • OKthat's all we have time  for on today's cutting edge  

  • show. But please check out our InstagramTwitter, Facebook and YouTube pages.

  • Bye-bye!

  • Goodbye!

  • Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm Neil.

  • And I'm Catherine. Hello!

  • Now, Catherine, say cheese.

  • Cheeeese. Thank you, a little souvenir of our time together.

  • Let's have a lookHang on a minute. You just  took a selfie, I wasn't even in the picture.

  • Ah, well, that's the magic of the smartphonetwo cameras! You know, that's not something  

  • you can do with a traditional camera. I meando you even have a separate camera these days?

  • I do actually. It's incupboard somewhere at home

  • Well, that is the topic of this programme. Have  traditional cameras been completely replaced by  

  • smartphones, or to put it another way, have  cameras been made obsolete by the smartphone?

  • Interesting question. But before we get into this  topic, how about a question for our listeners?

  • Of course. We are certainly in the  digital age of photography but when  

  • was the first digital camera  phone released? Was it

  • a) 2000 b) 2004 or 

  • c) 2007? What do you think?

  • Well, I actually know this one, so I'm  going to be fair and keep it to myself.

  • OK, well, listen out for the  answer at the end of the programme.  

  • There are different kinds of cameras  available today. There are compact cameras,  

  • which are small and mostly automatic  and usually come with a fixed lens.

  • That's right. And then there are  SLRs and DSLRs which are bigger,  

  • and you can change the lenses on these cameras  and they allow for a lot of manual control.

  • And there are also mirrorless cameras, which arecross between compact cameras and DSLRs. They are  

  • small like a compact camera but you can also use  the same lenses on them that you can use on DSLRs.

  • And of course, there are  the cameras on smartphones,  

  • and these are convenient and they're  becoming increasingly sophisticated.

  • Phil Hall is the editor of Tech Radar  magazine. He was asked on the BBC programme  

  • You and Yours if he thought smartphones would  make other cameras obsolete. What is his opinion?

  • I don't think so. I think while compact camera  sales have really sort of dropped off a cliff,  

  • it's the lower end, cheap compacts where  people have opted for a smartphone and I think  

  • manufacturers are looking at the more higher end  premium cameras, high-end compacts, DSLRs, which  

  • are the ones you can attach lenses to, mirrorless  cameras. So, the market's changing. And I don't  

  • think there'll be a time soon, yet, thatthe  smartphone will take over the camera completely.

  • So does Phil think smartphones  will kill the camera?

  • In a word, no. He does say that sales of cheap  compact cameras have dropped off a cliff.  

  • This rather dramatic expression  describes a very big fall in sales.

  • This is because the kind of consumers  

  • who would choose a compact camera are now  opting for the camera on their smartphone.  

  • When you opt for something you  choose it rather than something else.

  • For people who want a quick, easy  to use and convenient way to take  

  • reasonable quality photos, compact cameras used  to be the best choicebut now it's a smartphone.

  • So camera makers are now moving to the more  high-end market, the DSLRs and mirrorless cameras.  

  • So who is still buying these more  expensive cameras? Here's Phil Hall again.

  • I think it's... some of it is people who  are picking up a smartphone and sort of  

  • getting into photography that way and that's  a really great first step into photography  

  • and I think people are probably, sometimesgetting a bit frustrated with the quality  

  • once they sort of start pushing their creative  skills and then looking to see what's the next  

  • rung up so it's people wanting to  broaden their creative skills a bit.

  • Who does he say might be buying cameras?

  • He says that people who are getting into  

  • photography might get frustrated  with the quality of smartphones.

  • Getting into something means  becoming very interested in it.

  • And if you are frustrated with something it  

  • means you are disappointed with  it. You are not happy with it.

  • So people who have got into  photography with a smartphone  

  • but are frustrated with its limitations  and want to be more creative are going  

  • to the next level. They are moving up, they  are, as Phil said 'taking the next rung up'.

  • Now, a rung is the horizontal step of a ladder,  

  • so the expression taking the next rung up isway to describe doing something at a higher level.

  • Now, talking of higher levels, did you get this  week's quiz question right? The question was:  

  • When was the first phone with a digital  camera released? Was it 2000, 2004 or 2007?  

  • The first phone with a digital  camera was released in 2000.  

  • Now, to take us up to the end of the  programme, let's look at the vocabulary again.

  • First, we had the adjective obsolete  which describes something that has  

  • been replaced and is no longer the first choice.

  • When the expression to drop offcliff is used about, for example,  

  • sales numbers, it means sales have fallen  significantly over a short period of time.

  • To opt for something means to choose something  

  • and when you become very interested in an  activity you can say that you get into it.

  • If you are trying to do something and you  can't do it because you don't have the skill  

  • or the equipment you are using is not right  or not good enough, you can become frustrated.

  • And developing your skills to a higher level  can be described as taking the next rung up.

  • Right, that's all from us from us in this  programme. Do join us again next time and  

  • don't forget that in the meantime you can  find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,  

  • YouTube and of course our website  bbclearningenglish.com. See you soon. Goodbye.

  • Bye!

Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm  Dan and joining me today is Neil. Hey Neil.

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