He swept a 60 win Shaq Penny team in their primes, swept them goodbye and then being a 64 win team with Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp in the finals, Thes were 60 plus wind teams.

He beat the Stockton and Malone teams twice.

He beat the Magic Johnson James Worthy team when he first won his first title.

This idea that Jordan went against soft competition.

The reason?

It seems that way because a lot of those cats didn't work when championships because Jordan beaten.

That's why they didn't win championships because they play in the Jordan era.

Max.

First of all, I never said Jordan went against soft competition.

I never said that that never came out of my mouth.

But what I do know is that I came in the league with LeBron James in 2000 and three and the league was physical.

The league still had guys like Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal, Stephen Jackson, uh, Shack, Gary Payton.

All these guys were still in the league.

The league was physical.

The league was physical from 2003 to 2011.

No, from 2000 and 12.

Max Max.

First of all, I just told you that Championship should not define should play a major part, but it should not define the whole should not write the whole story.

This is not an individual.

Uh, this is not an individual sport, Max, no matter how you want to say.

But that is not the Onley thing, but it's a big thing.

And Stephen A, you're right.

You can't hold all the losses in the finals against LeBron like you can't hold going up against that Warriors team with K d.

Who was gonna beat that team?

Let's throw those two out the first time he made the finals with the Cavs.

All prepped credit to LeBron for making the finals the first time they lost to the Warriors KD and Chirico.

Kevin Love and Kyrie got hurt credit to LeBron for taking it six.

But the first loss against Dallas in Miami and the last loss against the Spurs in Miami.

Those were loaded teams.

No excuses.

Jordan never lost a series like when Jordan was loaded.

He never lost series like that.

All of that just to say you agree with me, Why didn't you just say Stephen, I agree with you.

That's exactly what I said, Max.

I mean, I understand, but the bottom line is, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.

What it comes down to is LeBron, James and MJ.

Like Kendrick, Perkins said, They ain't at the same day in the table.

I'm not gonna refute that.

KP.

So you could lift up your head and stop looking depressed pastors past the purpose.

All I'm saying is that at the same dinner table, but it ain't MJ look, and I'm not.

I'm not listen to Steven and Max.

This is This is what you are feeling to realize.

I'm a fan of Michael Jordan's right, but like I said, we could go.

You could come down here toe Texas and I take you straight to the swamps.

Old country bone might why I grew up in and we could go talk with all my great uncles and they go argue, argue down and say Kareem is the greatest of all time.

Then when we get to your generation, you and Matt pushing 50 line, Y'all go talk.

Y'all go talk about my Kareem.

It comes my general.

I didn't say he wasn't.

Max cannot finish.

I'm just telling you, it could be a argument or debate it prefers is just on what you prefer.

What part of that you don't get?

Yeah, but Jordan at the head of the table perc.

Jesus, You're the head of the table.

Uh, Russell, Kareem and LEBRON or they're going with the head of the table.

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