The body language of a person will give you the advantage of off move ahead off things that might happen.

So the president was touring this this'll event on There's this company.

You make baseball bats.

Um, on the when I saw the baseball, but I thought that he might grab one and do some sort of something Chester or something on.

He was walking towards this stand and I moved ahead, tried to get decision and myself close to the to the to the table where the bats were andan happened and she's grew up one of the bats on Look, look at the media and you say something I can't remember very well, wasn't said, But it was kind of funny that Penn Vice President Pence, who is in the back You start laughing.

Hey, make the gesture of like I don't make it swing or something.

Yeah, it's one of the things off, you know, trying to know the body language off the subject and think ahead off.

What?

What's gonna happen before the white house.

I was just, like a new suit or for coming, uh, daily life on breaking news and stuff like that.

So coming to to an environment like the White House, which is tightly control what?

You can move everywhere you want.

Um uh, that, uh, it was one of the most challenging part trying.

Thio read the character of the person photographing.

So one of the things that I feel like, uh, I'm a privileged person to have the opportunity to see history in the making, uh, sitting difference in the first goal.

Um, on Sometimes I also have the chance to see the full circle, which is seen being present with decisions are making, like being in the Oval Office.

When, when decisions are making up showing to the public, uh, or announced to the American people on then seeing the other side the consequences in, uh, three years ago had a chance to see Thio go down to Mexico to see the caravan to photograph the Karen on.

I was at the end, off the journey eso When I was in in the border, we got the news.

It's sad news.

One of the a girl who was traveling.

I was on custody off U.

S border control past, while being in custody off the Border Patrol, agents on her body was sent back to Guatemala to be buried.

Andi, I flew down to Guatemala to photograph the funeral, which would happen suddenly on Christmas day.

Um, E, in a way for me is such a privilege and a responsibility at the same time to to see the whole pick, the whole story, to see the decision that I made here on see the consequences off some off the decisions which are very hard to digest, um, later on.