Kobe Bryant.

科比-布萊恩特。

He could have had 71.

他可以有71個。

He could've had 91.

他本來可以有91分的。

The main thing I want everybody and take away from that game is that man's discipline.

我希望大家，從那場比賽中得到的主要是那個人的紀律。

And that's why when people try to teach me, I'm like we held a month or 100.

這就是為什麼當人們試圖教我，我就像我們舉行了一個月或100。

What do you mean?

什麼意思？

What was it like the first time you went up against Kobe Bryant and had to guard him?

你第一次和科比-布萊恩特對位，不得不防守他的時候是什麼感覺？

1994 is when I got picked So that summer in orderto like not go back to the neighborhood kind of start maturing.

1994年是我被選中的時候，所以那個夏天為了不回到社區那種開始成熟。

I got a place in California, and that's when I started playing basketball at the U.

我在加州有了一個地方，那時候我開始在加州大學打籃球。

C.

C.

L A.

L A.

Men's Jim.

男人的吉姆。

Anybody that came through L.

任何經過L的人。

A.

A.

During that period of time, I got a chance to see them ball, and all of a sudden we're up their plan and the young kid named Kobe shows up because he just got drafted by the Lakers and everybody then was still talking about the fact that Jerry West said he had the greatest work out that he had ever seen.

在那段時間裡，我有機會看到他們打球，突然間我們上了他們的計劃，那個叫科比的年輕人出現了，因為他剛被湖人隊選中，當時大家還在談論傑裡-韋斯特說他的鍛鍊效果是他見過的最棒的。

And so initially when he said that the Lakers had shot Nick Van Exel and Eddie Jones on the team.

所以最初當他說湖人隊中射出了尼克-範埃克塞爾和埃迪-瓊斯的時候。

That backcourt, they both made the All Star team.

那個後場，他們都進了全明星隊。

And so Thio even add Kobe to that mix.

所以蒂奧甚至把科比也加進去了。

Everybody's like, Whoa, they got the nerve to draft the guard.

每個人都喜歡，哇，他們有膽量起草的後衛。

That's the first thing that everybody was saying.

這就是大家說的第一句話。

And so when he came to the gym, there was a little there was a buzz around them.

所以當他來到體育館的時候，周圍有一點有熱鬧。

And then all of a sudden he got a couple of chances toe like get the ball and do his thing, went to the basket and boomed out on everybody who he gave everybody respect from the beginning.

然後突然間，他得到了幾個機會，比如拿到球，做他的事情，去籃下，轟出了每個人，他從一開始就給了大家尊重。

And here's another thing that happened.

還有一件事，就是發生了。

So everybody's playing in the morning, gotta whatever, whatever eso Kobe and I afterwards, we went to this little spot in Santa Monica.

所以每個人都在早上玩，得什麼，什麼埃索科比和我之後，我們去這個小點在聖莫尼卡。

You know, we're trying to be athletes.

你知道，我們想成為運動員。

It was like, you know, after you work out, you know, athletes, they go get in the hot tub, you know, they go, you know, drink water and these, you know, special juices and whatever, whatever.

這就像，你知道，你工作後， 你知道，運動員，他們去得到 在熱水浴缸，你知道，他們去，你知道， 喝水和這些，你知道，特殊的果汁 和什麼，什麼的。

When we got done, I was ready to go kicking in L.

當我們完成後，我準備去踢L。

A.

A.

He went back to the gym and I didn't realize the entire time that they set it up, that when we was hoping during the day he was going back at night, and that's when I knew that he really was gonna be a not only a special player, but also like bring a level of discipline and work ethic that really was just taking the game to a Michael Jordan type, you know, level of, you know, being immersed in the game.

他回到體育館，我沒有意識到 整個時間，他們設置了， 當我們希望在白天，他要回去在晚上， 這時候我知道，他真的是要去 一個不僅是一個特殊的球員，但也像帶來了一個水準的紀律 和職業道德，真的是剛剛採取的遊戲 到邁克爾・喬丹型，你知道，水準的，你知道，沉浸在比賽中。

24 73 65.

24 73 65.

How soon, Jalen, while he's already in the n B A.

多久，賈倫，而他已經在N B A。

Did you start to notice?

你開始注意到了嗎？

Oh, he is.

哦，他是。

His game is rounding out in a way that maybe I didn't even anticipate, even though you did see very early on that he had the work ethic right from the beginning.

他的比賽正在以一種也許我都沒有預料到的方式圓潤起來，儘管你很早就看到他從一開始就有工作態度。

But here's his problem.

但他的問題就在這裡。

He already had established vets on his team that we're stars in their own right, and I love shack just like you do.

他的團隊裡已經有了成熟的老將，我們本身就是明星，而我和你一樣，也喜歡shack。

But if you look at his history, my mood Abdul Raul Penny Hardaway.

但如果你看看他的歷史，我的心情阿卜杜勒-勞爾-彭尼-哈達威。

He always found a way to feel with the other star on the team.

他總能找到與隊中其他明星的感覺。

That was an absolute fat.

那絕對是個胖子。

And so that summer I don't think I'm breaking any news here.

所以那個夏天，我想我不會在這裡透露任何消息。

They had an altercation, a physical altercation, and clearly, who's gonna win?

他們發生了爭執，發生了肢體衝突，很明顯，誰會贏？

One of those was shot.

其中一人被槍殺。

And so when that happened, I remember saying that ain't gonna end well.

所以當那件事發生的時候，我記得我說過，這不會有好結果的。

S o U l a Those guys that airmen on the team.

S o U l a 這些傢伙是隊裡的飛行員。

And then every time it's like, go put in Kobe, their shoulder slump like, uh oh, here we go.

然後每次就像，去把科比，他們的肩膀下滑一樣，嗯，哦，在這裡，我們去。

You know, the teeth just pet, you know, gotta put him in the game and crowd would go crazy.

你知道，牙齒只是寵物，你知道，必須讓他在遊戲中，人群會瘋狂。

So it was unique playing on the opposite team, seeing how that dynamic Waas trying to keep him as the young fellow on the squad while the coaching staff, the management and the fans knew that he has something special that couldn't be contained.

所以，在對面球隊打球是很獨特的，看到那個充滿活力的華斯想把他這個年輕的傢伙留在隊裡，而教練組、管理層和球迷都知道他有一些特別的東西，是無法遏制的。

You eventually faced him in the finals in 2000.

你最終在2000年的決賽中對陣他。

How did you guys approach guarding him individually and as a team?

你們是如何以個人和團隊的方式來守護他的？

One of the things that happened in my career, I don't think it's cute or cool.

在我的職業生涯中發生的一件事，我不認為這是可愛或酷。

I'm not proud of it playing in that Siri's Kobe went up for a jump shot because this is probably Game four, and the reason why this ended up happening because Games 12 and three I realized that Reggie, Mark Mullen, me, Travis, we can't guard him.

我並不引以為傲，打在那場比賽中，爵士的科比上去跳投，因為這可能是第四場比賽，之所以最後會出現這種情況，是因為第12場和第3場比賽我意識到，雷吉、馬克-穆倫、我、特維斯，我們防不住他。

He went up for a jump shot and I purposely act like I was contesting the shot and made him come down on my foot and in my mind, I didn't want him to clearly break his ankle.

他上去跳投，我故意裝出一副我在比賽的樣子，讓他趴在我的腳上，在我的心裡，我不想讓他明明摔斷腳踝。

But in my mind would be great if he missed his next three games.

但在我看來，如果他缺席接下來的三場比賽，那就太好了。

We have a we have a better chance to win.

我們有一個我們有一個更好的機會贏得。

And true Kobe fashion.

而真正的科比時尚。

This dude only missed one game.

這傢伙只缺席了一場比賽。

It became a signature moment when he returned in his early career because at Indiana, shock files out in the fourth quarter.

這成為了他職業生涯初期迴歸的標誌性時刻，因為在印第安納州，衝擊文件在第四節出局。

And there is the footage of Kobe Bryant making a couple of jump shots and he does the point to the ground.

還有就是科比-布萊恩特幾次跳投的鏡頭，他做到了點到為止。

Get down the lay down motion and a lot of people see LeBron James doing now.

躺下的動作，很多人都看到勒布朗-詹姆斯現在在做。

Kobe was actually the first person to do that and it was crazy because he was fighting against Michael Jordan's legacy.

科比其實是第一個這麼做的人，這很瘋狂，因為他在和邁克爾-喬丹的遺產對抗。

He was fighting against his teammates and then he was fighting against the opponent.

他先是和隊友較勁，然後又和對手較勁。

So when that shot went in, he wasn't even like talking trash to the Pacers.

所以當那一球打進的時候，他根本不像是在跟步行者隊說垃圾話。

That was for his bitch.

那是為了他的婊子。

I can hear what field that was saying.

我聽得出那是在說什麼領域。

I can hear what players on the Ventress and pass the ball, move it.

我可以聽到什麼球員在Ventress和傳球，移動它。

He's been going like I got it.

他一直在走，就像我得到了它。

And so that championship started the Validators great, the 81 point game when he's rolling.

所以那個冠軍開始驗證者偉大，81分的比賽，當他在滾動。

At what point do you say to yourself?

在什麼時候你會對自己說？

I don't know what I can do to stop him at this point.

我不知道該怎麼做才能在這個時候阻止他。

So here's the greatest thing that I want people to know about.

所以這是我最想讓大家知道的事情。

Kobe Bryant and I bring up the 2000 Finals when I intentionally tried to injure him as basketball karma 101 Kobe Bryant.

科比-布萊恩特和我提起了2000年總決賽，當時我故意想打傷他，因為籃球因果報應101科比-布萊恩特。

When you watch that game, I want everybody to go back and watch that game.

當你看了那場比賽，我希望大家回去看那場比賽。

I don't care if he had 40.

我不在乎他是否有40個。

Don't care if he had 50.

不在乎他是否有50個。

I don't care if he had 60.

我不在乎他是否有60個。

He wasn't doing airplane wings around the court.

他不是在球場上做飛機翼。

He wasn't thumping his chance and pointing up at the sky.

他不是怦然心動的機會，指著天空。

He wasn't jumping in nobody's face and saying nothing.

他不是跳在誰的臉上，什麼都不說。

As a matter of fact, he didn't say a word and you know what else?

事實上，他一句話也沒說，你還知道嗎？

He didn't make no highlights where people show that game.

他沒有做無亮點的地方，人們顯示，遊戲。

They show Kobe walking to the bench, putting one finger in the air or they show him making a three over me or they showed, like getting a steal in double pump, put it behind his head, dunking on the breakaway because it was so like all time great that he didn't need highlights.

他們展示了科比走到板凳上，把一個手指放在空中，或者他們展示了他在我身上做了一個三分，或者他們展示了，比如在雙抽中得到一個搶斷，把它放在他的頭後面，在突破時扣籃，因為它是如此的像所有時間的偉大，他不需要亮點。

But the most important thing that he did that day, he never talked trash, and he never made it about him.

但他那天做的最重要的事情，他從來沒有說過垃圾話，也從來沒有拿他說事。

And that's who.

而這是誰。

Kobe, that that's the Mamba mentality everybody talking about like, What's the Mamba mentality?

科比，這就是曼巴心態大家都在說，曼巴心態是什麼？

That game.

那場比賽。

Everybody wants to talk about the numbers he could have had 71 could have had 91.

每個人都想談論他可能有的數字，71可能有91。

The main thing I want everybody and take away from that game is that man.

我希望大家和從那場比賽中帶走的主要是那個男人。

This that man is focused.

這個那個人是重點。

And so as a professional, another team.

所以作為一個專業的人，另一個團隊。

George, you know what you gotta do?

喬治，你知道你要做什麼嗎？

You gotta take it.

你得接受它。

And that's why when people try and tease and I'm like WAY held a month into 100 what do you What are you talking about?

這就是為什麼當人們試圖和戲弄，我像WAY舉行一個月到100什麼你你在說什麼？

He's the remix.

他是混音師。

The Michael Jordan.

邁克爾-喬丹。

If I have to score 44 in the game, I'm mad.

如果我在遊戲中要打44分，我就瘋了。

He didn't have 88.

他沒有88歲。

That game embodies his all time greatest was sure the Times he was most locked in, which is all he's always locked in, right?

那場比賽體現了他的歷史最偉大的肯定是他最鎖定的時代，這也是他一直鎖定的吧？

But when he was really cooking, they knew they knew even pre game because they said that there were times where he, you know, he'd fraternize a little bit in pregame or if you hit a shot.

但當他真正做飯的時候，他們知道他們甚至在比賽前就知道了，因為他們說，有的時候，他，你知道，他會在賽前或如果你打出一個球時，他就會親近一點。

He said, like, Hey, man, nice shot or whatever, but the days where he didn't say a word to you, that's when you knew you were in trouble.

他說，像，嘿，夥計，好球或什麼的， 但天，他沒有說一個字給你， 這時候你知道你有麻煩了。

Everything that people say that they like about the old school game, he didn't fraternize.

人們所說的一切喜歡老派遊戲的東西，他都沒有兄弟化。

You ain't got no footage of Kobe exchange in jerseys after the game.

你沒有科比賽後交換球衣的鏡頭。

You ain't got no footage of him putting his jersey up, trying to talk to the guy who played with last year or somebody that has the same agent is him.

你沒有看到他把球衣掛起來的鏡頭 試圖和去年一起打球的人或者和他有相同經紀人的人交談的鏡頭。

There's no footage of him doing that.

沒有他這樣做的鏡頭。

He was comfortable with being enemies.

他對與人為敵很舒服。

With everybody in the league.

與大家在聯盟中。

I ain't trying to be friends with none of y'all.

我不想和你們這些人做朋友。

I saw how was she left?

我看到她是怎麼離開的？

Everybody was on his side, so I ain't dealing with none of y'all.

每個人都站在他這邊，所以我不和你們打交道。

That's how his approach waas so him just saying What's up to you that just because he could talk.

他的做法是這樣的 他只是說，你怎麼了，就因為他能說話。

He didn't even want to do that.

他根本不想這麼做。

How did you and him eventually become friends?

你和他最後是怎麼成為朋友的？

Like when did that transformation happened?

比如什麼時候發生的轉變？

Obviously, we met when he first got into the league.

很明顯，我們在他剛進聯盟的時候就認識了。

I think we started to become more friends when I started to work in the media.

我想，當我開始在媒體工作時，我們開始成為更多的朋友。

When they start to realize, you know, 95% of the things, but you're only saying 5% of what you really know And when he realized that I was like that Oh, man, he text me about whatever Call me about whatever I'm on TV.

當他們開始意識到，你知道，95％的事情， 但你只說5％，你真的知道， 當他意識到，我是這樣的，哦，夥計，他發短信給我什麼 打電話給我什麼，我在電視上。

There's so many times I'm doing SportsCenter.

有那麼幾次我在做《體育中心》。

I'm doing J and J.

我在做J和J。

He texted me, calling me, he doing all of that Like I was standing right next to him at his camp when he first talked to Dwight Howard.

他發短信給我，打電話給我，他做的這一切 就像我站在他旁邊，在他的營地，當他第一次和德懷特・霍華德交談。

And I'm gonna say this now because they made amends.

而我現在要說的是，他們已經做出了補償。

I've never said this before on wax when he got off the phone with Dwight Howard because I know what that conversation was.

我從來沒有在蠟像上說過這句話，當他和德懷特-霍華德通電話的時候，因為我知道那段對話是什麼。

I was standing right there.

我當時就站在那裡。

Dwight was excited.

德懷特很興奮。

He was asking him about L.

他在問他關於L的事情。

A.

A.

He was asking him about how he was gonna help him make him better.

他在問他如何幫助他變得更好。

He asked him.

他問他。

You know about off court?

你知道場外的事嗎？

He asked about everything after he asked all of those questions.

他問完這些問題後，什麼都問了。

You know what Kobe say?

你知道科比怎麼說嗎？

I'm gonna show you, mofo how to get championships.

我要告訴你，mofo如何獲得冠軍。

What do you think about that?

你怎麼看這個問題？

But here's the part that is the kicker that I would never say unless they made up.

但這裡的部分是我絕不會說的，除非他們編造。

I was at his basketball camp.

我在他的籃球訓練營。

I spoke at his basketball camp, was standing right next to him.

我在他的籃球訓練營演講，就站在他旁邊。

He said shoes to my students for me doing it.

他說鞋給我的學生做。

He got off the phone with Dwight Howard.

他和德懷特-霍華德通了電話。

He said his head ain't in the right place.

他說他的頭不在正確的地方。

This ain't gonna work.

這是不可能的

And it didn't work for me.

而且對我來說沒有用。

Seeing him go from being like somebody that came into the league 17, 18 years old, to being an accomplished entrepreneur and winning awards with his production company.

看到他從一個17、18歲就進入聯盟的人，變成一個有成就的企業家，並與他的製作公司一起贏得獎項。

One of the guys that worked on Jalen Jacoby for a long time.

其中一個在杰倫-雅各比身上工作了很久的人。

Just so you know, he talking to me about our show and then he goes, snatch one of the people off our show.

你要知道，他跟我談起我們的節目，然後他就去把一個人從我們的節目中搶走。

You work for production company.

你在生產公司工作。

I was like, You owe me one.

我當時想，你欠我一個人情。

And that's why I put together that anyone I was video for, So I don't know if you saw the thing on Twitter about your statue.

這也是為什麼我把我視頻的任何人放在一起，所以我不知道你是否看到了微博上關於你的雕像的事情。

You know, e figured that neither.

你知道嗎？ 我也不知道

I drink, Mr Bryant.

我喝，布萊恩特先生

Yeah, I'll have a vodka martini.

是的，我要一杯伏特加馬提尼。

How many dollars would you like anyone?

你想要多少錢？

Very Yes.

非常是。

Really?

真的嗎？

No, I'm just playing just to Children.

不，我只是在給孩子們玩。

At first, he was like, uh, didn't know if he wanted to clown me like that.

一開始，他就像，呃，不知道他是否想這樣小丑我。

He's like, I got love for you.

他就像，我愛上了你。

Don't wanna kind of dish you.

我不想給你做菜

You know what I'm saying?

你知道我在說什麼嗎？

Like I'm like, uh, it's all good.

就像我喜歡，呃，這一切都很好。

And so I'm glad they're gonna be so many people that have voices on the Kobe Bryant legacy.

所以我很高興他們會有這麼多人對科比-布萊恩特的遺產發出聲音。

And I'm extremely proud that I was a part of that 81 point game and playing against him in the MBA finals and part of that video.

而我非常自豪的是，我是那場81分比賽的一部分，在MBA總決賽中與他對陣，也是那段視頻的一部分。

Because of those, they're gonna be notable things that continue to happen.

因為這些，它們會是顯著的事情，繼續發生。

And to me, it's an honor to be a footnote.

而對我來說，能成為一個註腳，是一種榮幸。

A bug on the windshield.

擋風玻璃上的一隻蟲子。

Um, well, bump in the road like whatever you wanna call me for the legacy of Kobe Bryant, because any tribute that the world has for him number eight, number 24 statues, all of that, he definitely deserves it.

嗯，好吧，撞在路上像什麼 你想叫我為科比-布萊恩特的遺產， 因為任何致敬，世界上有他 八號，24號雕像，所有這些，他絕對值得。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。