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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'RE BACK WITH CONGRESSWOMAN JACKIE SPEIER.

  • YOU YOURSELF IN THAT DAY IN 1978 WERE SHOT MULTIPLE TIMES.

  • I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT FEELING MUST HAVE BEEN TO GO

  • THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE AGAIN WITH THE FEAR FOR YOUR OWN LIFE.

  • DO YOU SEE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE BEHAVIOR OF THOSE CULT MEMBERS

  • OF JIM JONES AND THESE SUPPORTERS OF THE FORMER

  • PRESIDENT WHO STORMED THE CAPITOL?

  • DO YOU SEE ANY PARALLEL IN THEIR DEVOTION OR THEIR IRRATIONALITY?

  • >> YOU KNOW, STEPHEN, I WROTE A BOOK TWO YEARS AGO, AND WENT ON

  • A BOOK TOUR.

  • AND AT EVERY SINGLE SPEECH, THE VERY FIRST QUESTION OR THE

  • SECOND QUESTION WAS THAT, "ARE THERE PARALLELS BETWEEN DONALD

  • TRUMP AND JIM JONES?" AND THE FIRST TIME I WAS ASKED

  • THE QUESTION, I KIND OF RECOILED FROM IT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, NO,

  • THIS-- THIS-- YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY CAN'T BE THAT KIND OF A

  • COMPARISON.

  • YOU KNOW, JIM JONES TOOK 900 OF HIS CONGREGATION TO THEIR

  • DEATHS.

  • AND, YET, WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6,

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS TO GO TO THE CAPITOL

  • AND FIGHT, AND THAT WE WILL NOT TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY WITH

  • WEAKNESS.

  • AND SO THEY STORMED THE CAPITOL AND BROKE IN.

  • AND IF THEY HAD GUNS, IMAGINE THE DESTRUCTION, IMAGINE THE

  • DEATHS, IMAGINE THE MAYHEM.

  • AS IT TURNED OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY USED PIPES AND FIRE

  • EXTINGUISHERS TO KILL A POLICE OFFICER AND INJURE MANY MORE.

  • AND IT'S-- IT'S REALLY INDESCRIBABLE WHEN YOU REALIZE

  • THAT OUR COUNTRY CAME THAT CLOSE TO LOSING THE DEMOCRACY.

  • THIS INSURRECTION ALMOST SUCCEEDED.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAY,■ç "WELL, H

  • DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY DO THIS EXACTLY," MUCH IN THE SAME WAY

  • THAT CHARLIE MANSON DIDN'T ACTUALLY COMMIT THE MURDERS.

  • HIS CULT MEMBERS DID.

  • WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE LIKE NIKI HALEY WHO THINK WE NEED TO,

  • "GIVE THE MAN A BREAK AND MOVE ON."

  • >> "GIVE THE MAN A BREAK."

  • TELL THAT TO THE WIDOW OF THE POLICE OFFICER WHO DIED.

  • TELL THAT TO THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, STAFF MEMBERS, WHO WERE

  • SHIVERING IN CLOSET THROUGHOUT THE CAPITOL.

  • THIS WAS AN ACT BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO INCITE

  • AN INSURRECTION.

  • AND TO SOMEHOW JUST, YOU KNOW, BRUSH IT AWAY AS IF IT'S NOT

  • SIGNIFICANT.

  • REMEMBER, THE REPUBLICANS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, THREE YEARS, BEAT UP

  • HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE OF BENGHAZI.

  • AND YET, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FORGET THAT WE ALMOST LOST

  • DEMOCRACY TWO WEEKS AFTER THE FACT?

  • >> Stephen: WELL, CONGRESSWOMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • FOR BEING HERE.

  • STAY SAFE, PLEASE.

  • CONGRESSWOMAN JACKIE SPEIER, EVERYBODY!

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

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