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♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.
WE'RE BACK WITH CONGRESSWOMAN JACKIE SPEIER.
YOU YOURSELF IN THAT DAY IN 1978 WERE SHOT MULTIPLE TIMES.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT FEELING MUST HAVE BEEN TO GO
THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE AGAIN WITH THE FEAR FOR YOUR OWN LIFE.
DO YOU SEE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE BEHAVIOR OF THOSE CULT MEMBERS
OF JIM JONES AND THESE SUPPORTERS OF THE FORMER
PRESIDENT WHO STORMED THE CAPITOL?
DO YOU SEE ANY PARALLEL IN THEIR DEVOTION OR THEIR IRRATIONALITY?
>> YOU KNOW, STEPHEN, I WROTE A BOOK TWO YEARS AGO, AND WENT ON
A BOOK TOUR.
AND AT EVERY SINGLE SPEECH, THE VERY FIRST QUESTION OR THE
SECOND QUESTION WAS THAT, "ARE THERE PARALLELS BETWEEN DONALD
TRUMP AND JIM JONES?" AND THE FIRST TIME I WAS ASKED
THE QUESTION, I KIND OF RECOILED FROM IT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT, NO,
THIS-- THIS-- YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY CAN'T BE THAT KIND OF A
COMPARISON.
YOU KNOW, JIM JONES TOOK 900 OF HIS CONGREGATION TO THEIR
DEATHS.
AND, YET, WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6,
PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS TO GO TO THE CAPITOL
AND FIGHT, AND THAT WE WILL NOT TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY WITH
WEAKNESS.
AND SO THEY STORMED THE CAPITOL AND BROKE IN.
AND IF THEY HAD GUNS, IMAGINE THE DESTRUCTION, IMAGINE THE
DEATHS, IMAGINE THE MAYHEM.
AS IT TURNED OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY USED PIPES AND FIRE
EXTINGUISHERS TO KILL A POLICE OFFICER AND INJURE MANY MORE.
AND IT'S-- IT'S REALLY INDESCRIBABLE WHEN YOU REALIZE
THAT OUR COUNTRY CAME THAT CLOSE TO LOSING THE DEMOCRACY.
THIS INSURRECTION ALMOST SUCCEEDED.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAY,■ç "WELL, H
DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY DO THIS EXACTLY," MUCH IN THE SAME WAY
THAT CHARLIE MANSON DIDN'T ACTUALLY COMMIT THE MURDERS.
HIS CULT MEMBERS DID.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE LIKE NIKI HALEY WHO THINK WE NEED TO,
"GIVE THE MAN A BREAK AND MOVE ON."
>> "GIVE THE MAN A BREAK."
TELL THAT TO THE WIDOW OF THE POLICE OFFICER WHO DIED.
TELL THAT TO THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, STAFF MEMBERS, WHO WERE
SHIVERING IN CLOSET THROUGHOUT THE CAPITOL.
THIS WAS AN ACT BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO INCITE
AN INSURRECTION.
AND TO SOMEHOW JUST, YOU KNOW, BRUSH IT AWAY AS IF IT'S NOT
SIGNIFICANT.
REMEMBER, THE REPUBLICANS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, THREE YEARS, BEAT UP
HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE OF BENGHAZI.
AND YET, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FORGET THAT WE ALMOST LOST
DEMOCRACY TWO WEEKS AFTER THE FACT?
>> Stephen: WELL, CONGRESSWOMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
STAY SAFE, PLEASE.
CONGRESSWOMAN JACKIE SPEIER, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.