Dude, listen, I'm sure he's Brady's boy.

I'm sure he's all of those things, but give me a break, man.

Hey, In case anyone's confused In the 20 years that Tom Brady spent with the Patriots, the Patriots defense gave up 18 points a game.

18 points.

You don't think you're gonna win a lot of games?

NFL giving up 18 off the six championships.

His defense was in the top 10.

All of those winds, like it does matter.

I love Tom Brady.

I think what he's done has been absolutely remarkable.

Give the coach some credit, man.

It is an and conversation not in or it is an And they were a successful as they were because they work together.

But Bill Belichick had the game plan toe put it together from a defense of perspective, special teams and offense.

So So all this idea that one guy gets all the credit is laughable.

Danny Amendola.

I know I don't know what got into him, but he is straight up high.

I don't know.

He's in California, Colorado.

I'm not sure whether states is legal, but he's in one of them states right now.

I'm just like you all know eso ideo I was looking through your notes and you had an interesting take on this.

What did you think when you heard that conversation?

I tend to agree more.

Now I know that it's not all Tom Brady and Tom Brady is not responsible for it all, but G.

You know me.

I've been players, players make great coaches, trust me, they overcome coaching a lot, and Bill Belichick is not immune of that.

Nick Saban, one of the greatest college coach I've that's ever done it.

Play for him, had to overcome coaching at times.

Um, Gregg Popovich.

I'm sure Tony Parker and Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili and David Robinson had to overcome coaching.

The bottom line is this.

There's a correlation between the greatest of all times and the greatest coaches.

Phil Jackson, right, won championships.

Coincidentally, he had Jordan and then he had Kobe and Shaq like this is not one of those situations where we have to have this this against each other, but players arm or responsible for championships.

Players are more responsible for organizations having success over a long period of time.

You don't think Willie McGinest and Vince Will Fork and Richard Seymour and all of those James, Um, all of those guys that played defense for the New England Patriots had a lot to do with the Patriot way as well.

That's where I disagree with them.

Damn Mendiola.

But I guarantee you this They wouldn't have went to nine without Tom Brady at quarterback.

And that was the most important part of that whole situation.

Because even though they gave up 18 points, Jeff, when they got the Super Bowls, Tom Brady had to pull last minute drives and do all of these things had to mount a comeback against the Atlanta Falcons.

How you like that defensive game playing early in the game?

So look, I'm or players I'm or for the players being the reason that they listen.

They had three points until they came back.

So you can't say it's all on the defense like everybody was playing bad till the end.

But think about.

They stopped the greatest show on turf, the Colts, which I was a part of one of most prolific offices.

They held us the three points and a F C championship.

Games like this isn't just Tom Brady.

Vegetarian bust out to really important kicks, right?

So it's It's all of it.

My whole My whole point with Amendola is you can't just credit one guy with all these things and the guys you just named.

Listen, the Hall of Fame should be littered with guys from the Patriots defense.

I can assure you, I saw them one on one.

I understand how good those cats work.

So the game plan they placed together, man, it is freaking for really?

And by the way, Belichick put that together.

So So you've got to give him some kind of credit.

By the way, Amendola.

He gave you a job, so come on, man.

Like, give me a break.

Belichick was a defense of coordinated before he got to the paper.

Quick final thought, Graziano, where do you fall on all this?

Well, my first thought was we had Danny Amendola on a 90 minute NFL Live last summer.

I was begging him to say something this interesting, the whole show, and he did.

So I wonder where this was then.

But look, Bill Belichick's not gonna win six Super Bowls if he doesn't find the greatest quarterback of all time in the sixth round.

Tom Brady is not gonna win six Super Bowls.

If Bill Belichick's not as good as he is at maneuvering the salary cap in putting a roster together, it's to Jeff's point.

It's and not or and I think that's the key thing to remember here.

E.

I mean, there's just nothing better than to sum it all up with a reasonable man.

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