Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles [ Background Music ] >> Stanford University. [ Applause ] >> Ladies and gentleman, please welcome, Stanford University President John Hennessy. >> Thank you. [ Applause ] >> Thank you. It's my great honor to welcome His High Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama back to Stanford. We're delighted that the Office of Religious Life and our School of Medicine, and the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research could help us organize this wonderful event. We have with us, in addition to the Dalai Lama, his long-term interpreter Geshe Jinpa who has helped put this visit together and Dr. Jim Doty who is head of this Center for Compassion and Altruism Research. Today, the Dalai Lama will speak on the centrality of compassion and later this afternoon we'll give the Rathburn lecture in memorial church. When the Dalai Lama received the Nobel Prize 21 years ago, he said, "I'm just a simple monk." But I can tell you when I first met him five years ago that he's so much more than just a simple monk. I still remember that visit because it is one of the most memorable moments of my life and when I meet with our undergraduates, they say, "Well, you've met world leaders. You've met presidents. You've met Nobel Prize winners. But who is the most interesting and impressive person you've met?" And I say it has to be that meeting with the Dalai Lama. Two things immediately impressed me. He is an individual who radiates joy and happiness [laughter]. You feel it. [ Noise ] >> The joy of living, the joy of creation just comes out when you're in his presence and he's speaking. The other thing I discovered is he has a wonderful sense of humor and he can make people laugh without hurting or injuring anyone's feelings, and I learned when I was with him that you could do that in a way that was truly wonderful. So please join me in welcoming His High Holiness, the Dalai Lama back to Stanford. [ Applause ] >> Sorry, sorry, careful, careful, careful. [ Laughter ] [ Applause ] >> Thank you. [ Inaudible Remark ] [ Applause ] [ Laughter ] [ Pause ] [ Inaudible Discussion ] >> Good morning everybody. [ Foreign Language ] >> I think I want to stand there to see more faces [laughter]. [ Noise ] [ Foreign Language ] >> Dear brothers and sisters, and [inaudible] long time friend [inaudible]. Indeed, I'm very happy once more come here and meet people. Some of them, long time friend and most of you new, I think. I always feel it is important to meet and share some of my own sort of views on the basis of my own experience and also I think some observation. I think those compare young student, suppose I have more experience. [Laughter] You just begin the real life. Now, I am now ready to say bye-bye. [Laughter] So the-- some sort of also the useful points which I already have experienced, so you may learn from these things may be some help. But then afterward, question and answer. Through that way, I also, you see, get some kind of, I usually say education. The different questions and sometimes question which I never sort of talk about it, but then such sort of new questions come that very helpful to think certain new point more them to be. So, that's also very helpful to my self. So I'm very happy and of course I want to thank the [inaudible] people who organized this opportunity. Then I talk with people from my side also no feeling of barrier, and when you put some questions from your side also should not feel any sort of barrier. We are same human being. Mentally, emotionally, physically, we are the same. Then, no matter what appearances that we all have desire to achieve happy life. And really every one have the right to achieve happy life. So same, 100 percent same on this level, and then particularly now to this world. In reality, I think no longer the concept of we and they. Entire now nearly 7 billion human beings should consider part of we because individual future depend on them. So for-- from one's own sort of interest, you have to think whole planet, whole humanity. So that is reality. Not like ancient time. Ancient time, the concept of we and they very strong because interest something more or less I think independent. So according to that circumstance, the concept of war, destruction of they, victory of we. Now, that concept or that concept outdated because new reality no longer that much sort of gate of salvation. So now, my doctrine [foreign language]. >> Compassion in human life and the society. [ Laughter ] >> Actually there's a theme difference of word or different factors but more or less I think hundreds of my talk more or less same subject. [ Laughter ] >> I think firstly, I believe, we human being by nature all according to those people who believe creator that we human being created as a social animal. So any social animal in order to survive, cooperation or sense of community is very essential. In this tiny animal, those social animals, there are no religious faith, no constitution, no government, but they work together because the nature creates such that individual survival depends on community. So you also, a social animal saw the ultimate soul or severe factor bring together this warmheartedness and genuine cooperation, work together with sense of responsibility to take care common interest. So unity, friendship is very important. Friendship from power, from money, artificial friendship. Genuine friendship on the basis of trust. Trust comes from openness, transparent, honest. Then trust comes-- on the basis of trust, real friendship comes. So since we are social animal, the genuine friendship or sense of one community is really essential. So trust so long one individual's deep insight, self-centered attitude, very strong self-centered attitude there then there is always is possible to cheat other, to bully other, exploit other so long that kind of mental attitude, mental tendency there you cannot speak truthful, honest, transparent. It is necessary somewhere to hypocrisy, smile but some different motivation. So on that basis, how can you develop trust? So openheartedness or genuine sense of concern of well-being of other, that is [inaudible]. So now, human being as a social animal, the fundamentals or the basis of our success or happiness depends on that motivation, compassionate motivation. Now regarding compassion, I usually see telling people and according to my own sort of observation basically three ways, three methods, or three different way of approach for promoting this human value. Number one, traditional religion, the Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and many other. Many Hindus believe creator. So every religion which believe creator when they describe creator, the infinite love and through that way when you totally submit or dedicate or submit yourself to god, creator which is infinite love that reduce self-centered attitude and then a religion talking importance of love, compassion, forgiveness, these things in spite of different philosophy all give same message. So that's one way of promoting compassion or warmheartedness. Then second, those nontraditional religion like Buddhism, Jainism. Mainly these two religions, no concept of creator but law of causality. So through that way, from that viewpoint, ultimately yourself is creator so all our sort of happiness or suffering, all these due to one's own action. You carry right action, action which benefit to other. Helping other brings some happiness, joyfulness on other. Result? You get a benefit from any action which is harming other, bring pains on other, the result you will face the individual consequences. So there's a law of causality. That's also one way to promote these values because I want happiness, I do not want suffering. So I have to think seriously about the causes of these two experiences so since I want happy life, I have to carry some activities which helping other, which benefit to other. Since I do not want suffering, I should not harm other. That also one way of promoting these values. Then judging also the-- also the-- say out of nearly seven billion human being, quite a big portion, no interest about any religion, any faith. This also human being and very important because part of the six billion human being if not majority but big portion of nearly seven billion human being are essentially a nonbeliever. So to some people have the view, some religious sort of-- I think believe any moral ethics must be based on religious faith. Of course, they have their own reasons but if you believe that then it becomes very narrow. >> So now here mainly now according Indian tradition. India's constitution itself and based-- according to secularism. So sometimes some of my friend, some Christians, some Muslim when they heard the word secularism they believe something disrespect in one tradition. So I don't think according to Indian understanding secularism is rather respect all religions. No preference. This religion or that religion. Because India thousand years its reality is there are so many different traditions there. So you must respect all the tradition. So therefore, according to that concept, secularism does not mean disrespect religion. And also in ancient time, I think last, I think more than 2000, maybe 3000 years in India among different sort of school of thought. One school of thought nihilistic view, Sanskrit word or Hindu word jivaka. So usually it's considered that is nihilism. Some of my Indian friend is telling me after 3000 years, many creators or great thinkers or religious leaders argue, criticism, criticize about that view. But the person who holding that view refer rishi. Rishi means sage, sage. So, there is sort of also the attitude, respect holding that nihilism. So one of my Indian friends, of course, actually the former Japan minister, once he told me one of the reasons why democratic system is successful in India lasted nearly 70 years. Because thousand years, they sort of followed Buddhism and also sort of this habit to respect people who have different view. And as far as that view is concerned, much critical. However, respect. So secularism now here I think, I feel, I usually just try to promote human value or compassion to secularly. That will not against any religion but actually, I think I believe all the measure of tradition has come from that basis. So all religion actually strengthening basic human good quality, that's basis-- basically that's the human value, secular values. Now here, the way promoting inner value, secularly how. I usually-- [ Foreign Language ] >> Three components. >> Or three components maybe. Number one, we human beings like some other mammals like dogs, cats, many birds, their survival entirely depend on others care, particularly mother's care. So we human beings, our very life start that way. So as soon as we are born our first deep experience and happy experience is mother take care and provide us milk. So at that time the child no sort of idea who is that person. But biological factor teach them to sort of trust and when mother is taking care is a tremendous feeling of joyfulness. So that's the way our life start. And those people who received maximum affection, maximum care from our parent, particularly our mother, in whole life their emotion, also their deep insight much stable, much happier, more secure than those people who on early being of their childhood lacked of affection. One time in Poland and many years ago, I think my first visit there, one sort of orphanage. They described these children are unwanted children. So really terrible. Of course, the foster parents are there. >> Foster parent. >> Foster parent eventually, I think, can become real parent then maybe different. Otherwise, it is very difficult and particularly those child who at early age see abuse, experience abuse, like that. I think hold their rest of life with some problems and the physicals of their health, also some connection. So in their tradition, I always is happy to mention my own case. My parents illiterate, uneducated, just a villager, farmer but very, very compassionate, particularly my mother. Father sometimes quite often lose temper but my mother really, almost we never saw on her face some kind of negative face. We never saw. Her sort of compassionate attitude not only towards her own children but other children also, particularly those children of beggar. She very much showing concern and love or sometimes I also, you see, share my own sort of stupid experience, drastic experience. You know, since my mother so much love to me as usually, as usual very young sort of child carrying by mother on shoulder. So then I usually hold two ears of my mother. I want to go this side, at this side, go like that. If mother didn't listen then I cry and my leg pumping there. I think I really was acting like a naughty boy there, a stupid-- [ Laughter ] >> Spoiled child. >> Spoiled child. So, I believe that experience I think really imprint in my mind but deeply the-- so perhaps I think my own sort te model compassion. Of course later, but it's sort of practiced also you see [inaudible]. But the very seed of that come from my mother. Then, because emotional level, no matter and so how difficult it is but deep inside some kind of open heart, compassionate heart. That brings in us that-- this fear. That also is very important for body element. So, now this is number one reason, we-- everybody come from our mother. All have same seed of compassion. No question. Nobody can argue with that. The second, using our common sense. Whether in east, west, south, north, any human group or human family were more compassion in the atmosphere, affections at home always much happier. And your neighboring families, the family where often anger dominate or [inaudible] jealousy dominate. No peace. No happy atmosphere. Where the family which full of affection, full of trust, full of friendship, much happier. That happiness cannot bring, buy money. Rich family, this basic human value lacking, not necessarily happy. Poor family, material facility poor, but these basic human values, they're much happier. So that's using our common sense. Then, third reason. No scientific sort of-- sort of finding, latest the scientific finding. Constant fear, constant anger, hate remain here. Actually eating our immune system, some scientists say that. Calm mind, compassionate mind. Sometimes even increasing this passage of body element. So therefore, I often have seen, mentioned one occasion I think 10, 13 years ago, one occasion in New York area, one sort of meeting with scientists. Now that kind of meeting now since last I think about in 30 years, we have, you see, we caring using that kind of sort of discussion or dialogue. So one occasion, one doctor make in his presentation, you see he mentioned those people who often use word I, mine, me, like that, there's greater chance of heart attack. [ Laughter ] >> He didn't explain. Then I thought, oh, it may be true because, you see the person who often you see come from his or her mouth this word, it simply is reflection of their thinking. Of course there one way that person is a little bit quite honest. So, what he or she really feels expressed, but sometimes we're quite clever. Is the real feeling always hiding and expressed, use few nice words. So, you know the person who often come these words, they-- his or her in deep feeling "I" is the center, self centered attitude. So with that, as I mentioned earlier, sometimes I just got our inner door closed. So, with that feeling, difficult to communicate with other people, other fellow human being, which your successful life depends on them. But those that you feel little discontent. So that brings in deep insight sense of insecurity, sense of loneliness. That brings blood pressure increase, too much stress, too much anxiety, so heart attack. So, therefore, using these three sub reasons, we can develop-- I mean, using the third and the main-- yes, these three secular way, not talking about religion, not talking about next life or heaven, simply how to be happy human being, how to be happy human family. Money alone, no. Now here, I usually because of the-- [inaudible]. These days, I sort of [inaudible] 'cause I develop one new view here, new view. That is last, at least I think 3, 4000 years, you see, or 5000 years we develop faith which that provides hope. And when we're really facing desperate situation, pray to God or pray to Buddha at that. So, that gives us some random basis of hope. Then, about I think last two centuries, I think more than two centuries, science develop. With that, technology develop. So many them which previously just pray. Now that actually now produce-- becomes reality with help of technology and science. So, we're very much excited. And now, all our hope put on science and the technology. A lot of sort of-- a lot of change, positive change you see develop. There's also recently one the-- once again partner, this Bihar state in India, Bihar state. It is capital partner, Bihar state, the Bodh Gaya located in Bihar state. So in partner, the state government constructed huge Buddhist temple. So some ceremony, open ceremony, for ceremony he invited me and some delegations from different Buddhist countries. I'm there, so-- >> So, and then chief minister, you see, your open statement, your open, open statement. You see, he mentioned what is the-- at one point, you see he mentioned Buddha's blessing, Bihar state will flourish [inaudible], mentioned economically usually. >> Flourish. >> Flourish. Then my turn to talk. I know this minister very well. So I half joke, half serious. I mentioned if the developmental prosperity of the poor state of Bihar due to Buddha's blessing, then I think the Bihar state must earlier should [inaudible], should develop because Buddha's blessing always there. But till able chief minister come, development not happen. So, therefore, Buddha's blessing may be there but Buddha's blessing must go to human hand, human action. So that I believe. I think last several thousand years we're just praying but not satisfied-- satisfactory as that. Through technology, a lot of benefit has come. Now, later part of 20th century, those people who have all these facilities, material facilities, now begin to feel there is limitation about material value. I think you should, you know much better I think these things, so American, you see, you-- you have all the material facilities, isn't it, generally speaking. Of course America, there are poor people, a lot of poor people also there. One of the [inaudible] because of the-- 'cause of the drawback [inaudible], drawback is this huge gap reaching for human just [inaudible]. Sit there. So in anyway, so in anyway, does it begin-- people begin to feel there is limitation and among the scientists also, before they only, you see, watch or observe or investigate something, external thing. They not much pay attention about scientists themselves. So now, because of the much development about brain science, neuron science, now more [inaudible] more attention about mind, relation between mind and brain. Whether there is separate entity on mind or not. Now these now gradually [inaudible]. There's economy level. Then practical level, those medical scientists now realize our emotion is so important for good health. So recently a few occasion, they are meeting, they call healthy body, healthy mind. There's no point to neglect about a healthy mind. So, scientists in the medical field, now they begin to see the importance of mental state for good health. So, later part of 20th century, now something changing now. Not only material sort of development, but internal development is equally important. And also in a social sort of-- 'cause of the social scientist way. They also now found some unhealthy sort of situation in society, particularly on the youth. Like in Japan, materially, highly developed. But there's a lot of suicide, a lot of depression among young people. And some other countries also, some senselessly killing in classroom, these things happen. So, some social scientist, they begin to feel in the society, in the family we are lacking affection. So these children, I'll say not adequate for us today [inaudible]. Equip sort of the affection or like that. And then also world peace, now more and more people realize, real peace must come through inner peace. So now question is how to develop calm mind, inner peace. Tranquilizer? No. Drug? No. Alcohol? No. [Laughter] So the inner peace is a kind of mind, mental state. So, inner peace must develop through mental-- through mental way, through mental [inaudible] process. So here in this university, this institution, now also is a last few years, now carrying some more serious research work and as well as Wisconsin University and Emory University. So these are I think very good start. I think in early part of 20th century, I cannot but to think of this thing, these things. Now among the scientists, among the educationist, now begin to feel importance of inner science. So this I think a very healthy sign. This should be-- we have this body and mind. The material facility simply provide body 'cause-- body comfort, not mental comfort. So, my friend, billionaire, very rich and quite famous but as the individual human being, very unhappy person. But they are not lacking money, not lacking a good name, not lacking friend, but lack of inner sort of strength. As a result, very unhappy. So, 'cause of the-- 'cause of the-- [ Inaudible Remark ] >> So the theme, centrality of compassion in human life and the society now fulfill. Thank you. [ Applause ] [ Laughter ] >> So now-- [ Applause ] >> [Inaudible] well, question. Question now. Yes. >> Before we start question and answer, I just want to personally thank you for being a supporter of our work at CCARE and for being our founding benefactor. And I also want tH thank you for being an inspiration to hundreds of millions of people throughout the world. [ Applause ] >> CCARE uses the tools of neuroscience to understand those complex human behaviors we call compassion and altruism. In and of itself, that would be an interesting exploration. But unless we use these tools to cultivate that and potentiate those feelings within our self, it is my feeling that that work would not be useful otherwise. I want to tell a brief story about when I met HJis Holiness which began with this exploration of my own into these-- examination of these feelings. We had an audience with His Holiness and at the audience, my real intent was really simply to get him to come to Stanford and talk about the importance of the cultivation of compassion. >> It was during this meeting that I explained to him some of our initial explorations and he became very excited and in fact I asked him, "Your Holiness what though is it what you want you want us to do in this type of work?" And he said, "The most important part of this is our children and education." And the center with his support is called the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education. After the-- towards the end of the audience with His Holiness and after I have asked him about these issues he added, but you must measure, measure, measure and he said, "You must use rigorous science and the work must be secular." And we have honored that wish. Near the end of our discussion His Holiness became quite animated and he began talking to Jinpa and to that in which of course I thought maybe I had offended him [laughter] and at the end of that discussion, Jinpa said to me, His Holiness so much believes in this work that you have begun that he wants to make a personal donation. And it is from that donation which has resulted in others being inspired to support this work and for us to be here today, so I thank you again for that. [ Applause ] >> I must say though that when I got my first wish which was that he come and talk here at Stanford I was quite elated and I said, wow, that wasn't that hard. [Laughter] And then-- and then when His Holiness spontaneously made this donation which ends being up one of the largest donations he's ever given to a non-Tibetan cause, I was in awe, I was humbled and it came into my mind that who am I to take money from the Dalai Lama? [ Laughter ] >> But that passed very quickly. [ Laughter ] >> We are going to begin the question and answer session, which are questions that you have given us and which I hope will stimulate discussion by His Holiness. [ Pause ] >> Scientific research on human qualities like compassion and altruism creates concern by many that science is reducing our morality and our humanity to mere chemical reactions in the brain, could this undermine our appreciation of human values? [ Foreign Language ] >> As I can before the answer-- but will [inaudible] is I want to tell you one, my own story. I think about 40 years ago, I begin to feel-- it should be useful or interesting dialogue or discuss with scientist and Buddhism-- mentioned particles and also of course I think some of you knows as far as geography is concerned-- >> Cosmology. >> Ah, cosmology is concerned and Mount Meru on these things mentioned. Then more important as I mentioned earlier, Buddhism, no concept of creator but something like self-creation, when we talk about creation they ultimately mind emotion. So therefore, in Buddhism comparatively, I think very rich information about mind, emotion, these things and how to tackle these different emotions and after there are some experience there. So I eager dialogue with modern scientists, then some of my friends they respond to me of science is killer of religion, be dangerous, be careful. And I thought and thought as far as Buddhism is concerned particularly the Nalanda tradition is concerned, Buddha himself made clear all my follower should not follow my teaching out of devotion or faith rather thorough investigation and experiment, this one. So that give us kind of freedom to investigate what texts say. So in-- historically, last more than 2000 years many Buddhist masters in India take this liberty to examine Buddha's own word. Those, Buddha's word, Buddha's teaching which goes contradiction with investigation then they say they did not accept it literally. Those texts which further investigation analyze still solid, that-- that sound then accept. So that is Nalanda tradition. So therefore, science also some kind of, sort of method to investigate what is reality. The Nalanda tradition also, the method to investigation about the reality so as it is-- then I start dialogue, talk with scientist. Now, as I mentioned earlier, the last 20 years more sort of discussion, it became very clear, that modern science they found useful information from Buddhist explanation about mind and for Buddhist the scientific finding about these quarks-- like quarks, subatomic sort of particles very, very, helpful, very helpful. One casualty is concept of Mount Meru at least for me, I now no longer believe Mount Meru. That is one casualty there, no problem [laughter] so therefore this kind of sort of further research, no problem. Now here, according sort of today this-- the brain specialist, the place where sudden-- [ Foreign Language ] >> One of the meetings with scientists, one of the scientist made the observation that at the brain level, it was a neuroscientist, it seems that brain centers that become more active when you experience pain for yourself seems to be also the same centers that get activated more prominently when you feel empathy and, you know, experience someone else's pain. >> So after I heard that at the conference [laughter] I just want of course have joke. Oh, in that case the brain is very foolish. [ Laughter ] >> No ability of distinction, what the real cause is. >> One, you see empathy, sense of concern of other's well being there are mental element determine the sort of self confidence voluntarily taking care of what other's-- sort of well being. So there is strength, the other, pain in oneself and all well in that feeling and some kind of helplessness completely discouraged. So in a mental level, big differences but just found on the brain, same area, so that means, you see, the brain no ability to distinction the real causes of mental level. Then with that I also was jokingly telling people like dear, I say when we very happy, all joy sometimes tear come and sometimes without much of a feeling but some kind of-- because of the laughing, joy is laughing also sometimes tear come. And very painful experience also use-- >> Sadness. >>Sadness also brings tear. So now, mental level, emotional level big differences, but the physical response is same. So if the-- the physical level quite sort of clever, then tear which causing by all joys, tear must come through right eye. [ Laughter ] >> And the cause of tear, too much sadness, then tear must come out of the left eye. Then brain has some ability to make a distinction. [ Laughter ] [ Applause ] >> So therefore-- so therefore, I think maybe too early to say, but still I feel mind or consciousness is much more subtler than physical thing. Of course, the mind has so many sort of different level, grosser level of mind, more subtle level mind, very, very subtle level of mind, for example, at the time of awakening state, mental state using the sense of organs then dream state, sense of organs no longer function. >> Active. >> Ah, active the system of mind or the mental state. Then further, deep sleep without dream, even further, sort of deeper mental state, then feigned then at the time of death the mental state deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper like that. So those grosser level of mind very much would need to do with our physical process. Now the latest of scientific finding through the experiment, now they found through sheer mental training, some change, some new development in brain-- [ Foreign Language ] >> This is made more understandable the fact that through mental processes they can affect and change the level of brain and this has been-- become more acceptable scientists tell me that because of the discovery of the plasticity of the brain. >> So these are now, as a sort of more serious sort of investigation about the brain or about mind. So I feel no harm, very important. >> Your Holiness, some people feel that by being compassionate or altruistic this can make a person actually less successful or able to survive in the real world. This seems to be a feeling that is not unusual in the West. What is your response to this type of thinking and do you think this also is the basis for the epidemic of depression in the West? [ Foreign Language ] >> Now firstly compassion, there are two levels. One-- one level as I mentioned earlier biological factor, that kind of compassion is very much mixed with attachment, very biased, very limited and oriented towards attitude. So that kind of compassion only towards your friend or person or anyone who is nice to you, that kind of compassion can develop. That compassion never extend to your enemy. Now, another level of compassion, now in this kind of compassion, of course, common with animal as I mentioned before. Now, another level of compassion which I think only 'cause of the-- only human being can develop because that combination with human intelligence as I mentioned earlier, analyze through reasons, some peace of mind is so important for my own well being. So the real destroyer of peace of mind is anger, hatred, suspicion, jealousy. The opposite-- counter force these things are compassion so, develop some kind of conviction, compassion is really good for my own well being. So then deliberately trying to strengthening that and try to reduce these negative sort of forces and destructive sort of emotions. So now, intelligence now involved there. So now, the second level of compassion not focusing others attitude but simply other, as a sort of being, as a certain being. Now for example, each individual, some kind of self-cherishing-- self-cherishing there, that does not mean I myself nice to me, no. I have right to be happy, just that reason, that factor you see, brings self cherishing. So similarly, other restrictive whether their attitude towards yourself, right or wrong or negative or positive doesn't matter. But these also, like me by nature want happy-- happiness, do not want suffering. So on that understanding, now not oriented to other's attitude but rather the person or being themselves. So develop sense of concern on that level, now that compassion can extend towards your enemy, enemy as far as their attitude is concerned towards you, negative, so we call enemy, but as far as just human being or certain being is concerned, same, same right. Since, that kind of sort of compassion very much combine with wisdom, now your-- the answer for your question. >> The genuine practitioner of compassion with help of wisdom, always holistic view. Now someone who take advantage on you and unjustly dream something, think, if you let their unjust dream continuously, ultimately they will suffer. Even within this lifetime, they-- many neutral people feel "Oh sure, she take advantage on such a wonderful person," so more and more people criticize them. So therefore, taking the holistic view and in order to stop their unjust dream, out of sense of concern of their well being for long term confirmation must take. So, compassion which combine with wisdom, always have brought us-- brought a perspective, a holistic. So here, the-- you know, the violence and nonviolence, actually very much little with motivation. Out of hatred, out of sort of, I said the desire to cheat using smile, using some nice word and with some gift, looks nonviolent action, but because of the motivation, wants to cheat, wants to harm. So that is essentially violence. Good parent or good teacher, [inaudible] is a good teacher. Purely out of concern of other's well being, children or student. Sometimes, you see-- use harsh words, some disciplinary action. Looks a little bit rough, but because out of sense of concern, sort of compassionate, sort of attitude, therefore, it is essentially nonviolence. So now your neighbor who take advantage on you unjustly, take a confirmation is nonviolence clear. So therefore, the discretion, I think-- if may I say so discretion comes out of ignorance, one's compassion. [ Laughter] [ Applause] >> I didn't write these questions. [ Laughter ] >> Protecting yourself? >> Yeah, yeah. [ Laughter ] >> Exactly. >> Another question I did not write. [Laughter] I know that oftentimes, if I see a homeless person or a person in need, I feel that I want to do something at that moment but I don't. What is it that makes a person who feels compassion actually act? Is it merely increasing a stronger sense of compassion that motivates action or there're some other factors? [Foreign Language] >> This time, I say-- my plane I took from Bombay to Tokyo and because it's near Bombay, one sort of big function, they invented me so I went there so my flight from Bombay-- so I spent one night at Bombay. On the street of city-- I saw the shanty town very poor people, hundreds and with their children, looks as nobody care. [ Pause ] >> Then also sometimes I saw some dogs, street dog, very poor physical condition, very weak, nobody taking care. Or last year-- I think last year or 2 years ago, I saw one picture, one dog because of economy sort of difficulties one family abandoned dog. One picture, I saw in a one Indian newspaper. I looked at that dog, are usually feeding by the owner so no need runaway-- running to seek something, so no such experience. So that dog's face looks very sad. Sort of nearly tear come but nothing can be done. [ Pause ] >> And something like those of the poor people in the street, if I spent my whole time serving them, that's also limited. So then [inaudible]. >> So now you have to wait. >> Some other way to help fundamental level, long run, maybe more cause of the more-- more benefit. So sometimes when I saw these things, only pray, nothing can be done. So I think you should be realistic. If you can do something on the spot, do it. If there's limitation, you cannot do, then think these things then try to strengthen our own sort of compassionate of the feeling, compassionate of experience. Sometimes when we saw these people or animal who are really facing painful experience, it's very, very helpful to further strengthening empathy in these things. >> You said the compassion is one of the most important human values, but how do we educate our children on how to be compassionate human beings. >> Now, that's very, very important. Now, in recent years, I see some institution and some-- what is it-- scientist, also the educationist. Now, really take seriously the-- about the sort of how to educate through education, how to bring. That's very, very important. Education system-- existing education system as I mentioned it before, last around-- about 200 years is the sort of interest, only the external are the matters. So education also is in mainly related with that. Some of the economy lessons, engineer, all these things, even medical just as it look human body, not sure interested about emotion or mind. >> Whereas I think in Indian medical system, in Tibetan medical system, more holistic, mind also you see, included. So the whole-- sort of-- as the existing education system very much based on material values. I think about thousand years ago-- 1000 year ago, one separate education institution started in Europe. At that time, about moral ethics is concerned church takes responsibility and also family as well. In modern society, influence of the church also decline and the family value also a little bit decline. Now, education institution alone should take care of both, brain development, and one part it's because of the development. Again, here as I mentioned earlier-- [Applause] I think all these possible ways is secular way, not rely on religious faith. If you rely on religious faith like India, then complication. There are so many different tradition, so difficult. So without [inaudible] religion as I mentioned, three reasons, common experience, common sense and the scientific findings through this sort of material-- using this material, we can educate our younger generation. That's key factor, transformation of [inaudible] being human being. Not to prayer but through education. That's the only way, so-- I think our work-- research work, now these are-- eventually is a very, very helpful resources to sort of-- to develop sort of the new curriculum in education field in secular basis, scientific basis and introduce children the importance of warmheartedness. And then also, I often telling people, 20th century become century of violence. 'Cause in some history in that century, through violence, over 200 millions of people killed. Still the beginning of this 21st century-- still some problems there. These due to lack or negligence or mistake policy in 20th century. So therefore, you too, using force, you can solve problems. Only through force, you can control or you can eliminate body but not mind. Changing mind only through compassion or education, not by force. So therefore, now this century, now this century-- [Applause], whenever we face problem, we have to find ways and means to solve that to dialogue. So I usually telling, now 21st century should be century of dialogue. Now, here in order to carry meaningful dialogue, first it is necessary, respect the other who have different view, consider part of we-- part of humanity. My future also depend on them, so respect and listen their interest and tell them our interest and try to find measurable equitable solution. That's the only way. Like in Palestine problem, both sides you stand firm then confrontation. So only way is through dialogue. So therefore, here, in order to bring century of dialogue. Now 21st century-- no, 10 years past, 90 years yet to come, now these young people, you are the people who belongs to 21st century. My generation belongs to 20th century already gone, now ready to say goodbye. So these young people, now, you should think how to bring this century more peaceful century, more compassionate century. So peace, compassionate does not mean no longer any problem, problem there so long human being there, human interest is there. Different interest, different views always there. There's a source of conflict, conflict [inaudible]. So now we have to-- that reality how to face that reality to talk, to dialogue, not using weapon. So therefore, now you should develop this strong conviction. Any problem - family level, community level, or national or international level [inaudible]-- all these sort of [inaudible] solution through dialogue. So for that reason also, the central compassion brings your will. And with the wisdom, there's no other objective, only through talk. That's the wisdom side. Then respect other's interest. Genuine sense of concern of other's well being, that's the basis. So combine these two things, genuine spiritual dialogue can develop. What do you think? [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Do you agree? [ Applause ] [ Laughter ] >> Thank you. [ Applause ] [ Inaudible Remark ] >> We have one now. Your Holiness, I would like to close with the parable that was told to me by another Nobel Prize winner Wangari Maathai. >> Oh, what a [inaudible]. [ Inaudible Remark ] >> Well, I just [inaudible]. >> So, she is the founder of the Green Belt Movement in Africa and she tells a story of a large forest fire and all the animals flee the forest and stand on the periphery and watched the fire burn their homes. One of the animals looks up though and sees a hummingbird flying to the lake getting a beak full of water and dropping it on the fire. The animal says to the hummingbird, "Why are you doing this? There is no way you were going to put out the fire." And what the hummingbird says is, "I know, but I am doing what I can do." Oftentimes when we see immeasurable suffering, we feel powerless or discouraged, but I tell you that each and every one of us has the capacity to make at least one person suffer less everyday. So go forth and just do what you can do and thank you. [ Applause ] >> For more, please visit us at standford.edu.
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