Plus, you know, more than a game manager is a guy.

As you said earlier, what Roethlisberger used to be, he could make off schedule, place down the field, all that stuff.

So this is what I'll say.

If Roethlisberger regains arm strength and his line play improves, he'll have a chance to prove these more than a game manager.

But he didn't prove it this last season.

And let me tell you something.

Hold on a sec.

Stephen X.

I'd love to hear your definition of game manager because you seem to turn it into a lifetime achievement award.

I'm going out right now.

Let me tell you something about what the average American public you seem to be.

Let me let me tell you something.

I just came across.

I just came across a quote today from Harry Truman, former U.

S.

President.

He said I don't give him hell.

He said, I don't give him hell.

I just tell him the truth and they think it's hell.

Now, Now, let me tell you something about scouting reports and Louis, You know this Scouting reports don't show respect as though the public's gonna read them scouting reports.

Just tell you the truth, Joe DiMaggio retired once upon a time because he got his hands on a scouting report about him, and he read it about him was so embarrassing because they can tell the truth that he retired.

Now, this is you.

Be quiet.

So we know you're saying you do.

We get everybody.

Just hold on a second.

You're throwing out in the middle of the night.

I mean, damn you like to respect your younger We Really?

Why would you say that?

Respect your younger.

You tell me.

Respect your elders.

Respect your younger Stephen.

A I'll say this.

What we're doing on this show, Steven a and you go to is we're giving public scouting reports.

We're not.

We don't have any sacred cows, right?

We're not thinking like, Well, I can't call on this because this is the great Ben Roethlisberger, and he has a resume.

We're being honest about what we see right now.

First defined game manager.

I already defined it for you.

And second, maybe he's more than that, Louis, But he didn't show it this last season.

I'll give you credit where credit is because Because it took me a while, but I realized one of the strategies.

First of all, one of Louis Riddick.

One of his strategies to never lose the debate is to take time is to take nine different sides.

That way, you can always say you were right about one of the second thing that he does is go on so damn long that you actually need the point that he makes.

And so you can't even remember what you're gonna I'm gonna try.

And this is what I'm going to say to you when you go talking again.

He goes talking again.

Here's what I'm gonna say to you when you talk about a game manager for the average person out there.

I mean, not for the intellectuals such as yourself, Max.

Not to live up here.

Just a regular dudes down to earth like the rest of us.

Okay, this is what we usually proceeds.

But this is what we usually think when we hear game manager, we're hearing about an individual.

Just don't lose it for us.

We got all of this around you will depend on you.

Don't mess it up.

Could you do that for us?

That's what a game manager is to most people.

Max Kellerman.

That's not been Roethlisberger.

He's different now.

I'm saying he's the guy that's handed the ball with the responsibility to take us there.

We believe in you, big fella is what we need from you.

We ain't got much of a running game.

Offensive line is suspect, but guess what?

We got these receivers.

If you fling that football 40 times plus a game, you can take us there.

That's not a game manager that's a franchise player now.

He might not be playing well enough to deserve the quote unquote franchise player stature, but he ain't no damn game manager.

That's disrespectful to Ben Roethlisberger.

To most regular folks.

Not to the fucks up here, Max.

Not to the fucks up here.

Just regular folks.

Max Lewis.

Go ahead.

You know what?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what?

See, that's a good point.

You just made their Stephen.

That's a good point.

And you know what?

You're right.

Because, Max, you know, you know when you say game manager in the regular in the scouting world.

If we were to go sit into a pro personnel department meeting room right now and listen to a free agency, meeting a game manager is exactly that.

Just don't mess it up.

Run the ball, take what they give you.

If we have to punt, that's okay.

Let the defense get on.

The field will eventually get good field position.

As a matter of fact, we may not throw it at all.

As a matter of fact, we may do with San Francisco.

Didn't NFC championship game two years ago when they just took the ball completely.

Added Jimmy Garoppolo hands.

Ben, isn't that you see what I'm doing with you?

See what I'm doing?

The maximum putting up?

I'm putting out five Max.

Just don't mess it up.

Five words.

Not a soliloquy.

Max.

Not a dissertation.

Just five words.

Just don't every word in the English language.

That's all language that's already statement.

I mean, you know what?

You know who's better?

Garoppolo or Roethlisberger?

Right now, Lewis.

Who's better?

Mm.

You know what's interesting question, Max, That's you know, that's that's a good question.

As a matter of fact, that's OK.

all you guys think Game problem?

No, I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo is just the game manager.

I don't I don't I think he's better than that.

I do.

I think he's better than that to actually, I think the problem is a little better than the game.

Do I just?

No, I just said that He's the fifth option.

In other words, you got the defense of secondary to Coach Shanahan.

George Kittle.

And then you think about Jimmy Garoppolo.

I'm not calling him a game manager.

I'm just saying he ain't that dude.

That's all you define game manager and Garoppolo is in the example.

Yeah, but you know what I think?

I think this look, I I think Look, we know we know that with gay manager comes a negative connotation, and we know how people think about that.

So you know what?

I see what you're trying to say, Max, But to say that Ben Roethlisberger is just a game manager, it is disrespectful.

There it is.

There it is.

Is you want the scouting report to stay private.

That's all that is.

You'll want the scouting report, but what we're doing here is making the scouting report.

You want to write your own to see what that is, making up your definition.

That's what you're trying to do.

That's not a gay manager.

What you describe five.

No, he's not a game manager.

Don't mess better.

I just spent.

I just spent the past couple minutes looking up definitions of gay managers, and I have to say, Personally, I have a negative connotation when it comes to the word game.

Manager I said Even in the eighties, I was shade and, in fact, one of the definitions that came up with.

I'm sorry, Max, it says a quarterback in the NFL who is the best of the worst.

Really, you're just looking for them to do anything.

Besides, what?

The bedroom team.

They didn't use the word.

What?

Charlie Charlie, do not contaminate your Charlie.

Do not contaminate yourself with the Kellerman syndrome.

Just simply say, Stephen A.

You're right, that's all.

It's very simple.

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