Van Jones說美國不是種族歧視的國家（Van Jones reacts after Scott says US is ‘not a racist country’）

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>> ANDERSON, BACK TO YOU.
>> ANDERSON, BACK TO YOU.
>> ANDERSON, BACK TO YOU. VAN, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF TIM
VAN, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF TIM
SCOTT?
SCOTT?
SCOTT? >> HE'S SORT OF THE BIDEN OF HIS
>> HE'S SORT OF THE BIDEN OF HIS
>> HE'S SORT OF THE BIDEN OF HIS PARTY AND THAT HE COMES ACROSS
PARTY AND THAT HE COMES ACROSS
PARTY AND THAT HE COMES ACROSS WARM AND AUTHENTIC AND HE TELLS
WARM AND AUTHENTIC AND HE TELLS
WARM AND AUTHENTIC AND HE TELLS A STORY AND THAT KIND OF IS IT
A STORY AND THAT KIND OF IS IT
A STORY AND THAT KIND OF IS IT TRUE.
TRUE.
TRUE. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE MESSENGER.
MESSENGER.
MESSENGER. THE MESSAGE IS NONSENSE.
THE MESSAGE IS NONSENSE.
THE MESSAGE IS NONSENSE. HE ACTS LIKE ALL THE DIVISIONS
HE ACTS LIKE ALL THE DIVISIONS
HE ACTS LIKE ALL THE DIVISIONS IN THE COUNTRY IS COMING FROM
IN THE COUNTRY IS COMING FROM
IN THE COUNTRY IS COMING FROM ONE SIDE.
ONE SIDE.
ONE SIDE. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. HE LOST A LOT OF
HE LOST A LOT OF
HE LOST A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS BY THE TENS OF
AFRICAN-AMERICANS BY THE TENS OF
AFRICAN-AMERICANS BY THE TENS OF MILLIONS WHEN YOU SAY MEASURING
MILLIONS WHEN YOU SAY MEASURING
MILLIONS WHEN YOU SAY MEASURING IS NOT A RACIST NATION.
IS NOT A RACIST NATION.
IS NOT A RACIST NATION. YOU CAN SAY WE ARE GETTING
YOU CAN SAY WE ARE GETTING
YOU CAN SAY WE ARE GETTING BETTER BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
BETTER BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
BETTER BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND STATISTICS, IT
THESE NUMBERS AND STATISTICS, IT
THESE NUMBERS AND STATISTICS, IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS COUNTRY IS
IS CLEAR THAT THIS COUNTRY IS
IS CLEAR THAT THIS COUNTRY IS STILL STRUGGLING WITH RACISM.
STILL STRUGGLING WITH RACISM.
STILL STRUGGLING WITH RACISM. WE STILL HAVE RACISM SHOWING UP
WE STILL HAVE RACISM SHOWING UP
WE STILL HAVE RACISM SHOWING UP IN EVERY INSTITUTION.
IN EVERY INSTITUTION.
IN EVERY INSTITUTION. I THOUGHT HE DID HIMSELF A
I THOUGHT HE DID HIMSELF A
I THOUGHT HE DID HIMSELF A DISSERVICE BY JUMPING THAT SHARK
DISSERVICE BY JUMPING THAT SHARK
DISSERVICE BY JUMPING THAT SHARK UNNECESSARILY.
UNNECESSARILY.
UNNECESSARILY. WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS A
WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS A
WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS A REASON THEY PUT HIM UP.
REASON THEY PUT HIM UP.
REASON THEY PUT HIM UP. HE'S THE BEST THEY GOT.
HE'S THE BEST THEY GOT.
HE'S THE BEST THEY GOT. HE CAN GIVE THAT MESSAGE, HE CAN
HE CAN GIVE THAT MESSAGE, HE CAN
HE CAN GIVE THAT MESSAGE, HE CAN TALK ABOUT AND POLISH UP ALL THE
TALK ABOUT AND POLISH UP ALL THE
TALK ABOUT AND POLISH UP ALL THE REPUBLICAN NONSENSE WITHOUT THE
REPUBLICAN NONSENSE WITHOUT THE
REPUBLICAN NONSENSE WITHOUT THE SHARP EDGES BETTER THAN THE REST
SHARP EDGES BETTER THAN THE REST
SHARP EDGES BETTER THAN THE REST OF THEM.
OF THEM.
OF THEM. >> WHAT'S AMAZING IS HOW
>> WHAT'S AMAZING IS HOW
>> WHAT'S AMAZING IS HOW DIFFERENT HE SOUNDS FROM ALL THE
DIFFERENT HE SOUNDS FROM ALL THE
DIFFERENT HE SOUNDS FROM ALL THE OTHER REPUBLICANS.
OTHER REPUBLICANS.
OTHER REPUBLICANS. AGAIN, IT IS ALMOST A TALE THAT
AGAIN, IT IS ALMOST A TALE THAT
AGAIN, IT IS ALMOST A TALE THAT THE REST OF THE PARTY IS IN SUCH
THE REST OF THE PARTY IS IN SUCH
THE REST OF THE PARTY IS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE THAT YOU GOT TO PUT
BAD SHAPE THAT YOU GOT TO PUT
BAD SHAPE THAT YOU GOT TO PUT HIM UP THERE.
HIM UP THERE.
HIM UP THERE. >> HE DID TOUCH A LOT OF THOSE
>> HE DID TOUCH A LOT OF THOSE
>> HE DID TOUCH A LOT OF THOSE BIG TOUCH STONE FOR
BIG TOUCH STONE FOR
BIG TOUCH STONE FOR CONSERVATIVES.
CONSERVATIVES.
CONSERVATIVES. I THOUGHT HE PROBABLY SCORED
I THOUGHT HE PROBABLY SCORED
I THOUGHT HE PROBABLY SCORED SOME POINTS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
SOME POINTS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
SOME POINTS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE SCHOOL ISSUES.
ON THE SCHOOL ISSUES.
ON THE SCHOOL ISSUES. THERE ARE A LOT OF PARENTS WERE
THERE ARE A LOT OF PARENTS WERE
THERE ARE A LOT OF PARENTS WERE FRUSTRATED THAT SCHOOLS DID NOT
FRUSTRATED THAT SCHOOLS DID NOT
FRUSTRATED THAT SCHOOLS DID NOT OPEN QUICKLY.
OPEN QUICKLY.
OPEN QUICKLY. HE DID SAY AT THE END, ORIGINAL
HE DID SAY AT THE END, ORIGINAL
HE DID SAY AT THE END, ORIGINAL SIN IS NOT THE END OF OUR STORY.
SIN IS NOT THE END OF OUR STORY.
SIN IS NOT THE END OF OUR STORY. HE'S ACKNOWLEDGING HISTORY EVEN
HE'S ACKNOWLEDGING HISTORY EVEN
HE'S ACKNOWLEDGING HISTORY EVEN AS HE'S MAKING THIS PROCLAMATION
AS HE'S MAKING THIS PROCLAMATION
AS HE'S MAKING THIS PROCLAMATION THAT RACISM IS NOT AMERICA.
THAT RACISM IS NOT AMERICA.
THAT RACISM IS NOT AMERICA. THIS IS PART OF OUR STORY AND
THIS IS PART OF OUR STORY AND
THIS IS PART OF OUR STORY AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE NEED
WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE NEED
WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE NEED TO CONFRONT IT AND WE NEED TO
TO CONFRONT IT AND WE NEED TO
TO CONFRONT IT AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT.
UNDERSTAND IT.
UNDERSTAND IT. HE CONFLICTED WITH --
HE CONFLICTED WITH --
HE CONFLICTED WITH -- >> WHAT STRUCK ME WAS THIS WAS
>> WHAT STRUCK ME WAS THIS WAS
>> WHAT STRUCK ME WAS THIS WAS NOT A MESSAGE THAT WAS A DONALD
NOT A MESSAGE THAT WAS A DONALD
NOT A MESSAGE THAT WAS A DONALD TRUMP MESSAGE AT ALL.
TRUMP MESSAGE AT ALL.
TRUMP MESSAGE AT ALL. HE WAS NOT SPEAKING TO THE BASE
HE WAS NOT SPEAKING TO THE BASE
HE WAS NOT SPEAKING TO THE BASE OF THE PARTY EXCEPT ONE AREA
OF THE PARTY EXCEPT ONE AREA
OF THE PARTY EXCEPT ONE AREA WHERE HE WAS REFUSING TO GIVE
WHERE HE WAS REFUSING TO GIVE
WHERE HE WAS REFUSING TO GIVE JOE BIDEN ANY CREDIT ON
JOE BIDEN ANY CREDIT ON
JOE BIDEN ANY CREDIT ON COVID-19.
COVID-19.
COVID-19. HE SAID THE TIDE HAD ALREADY
HE SAID THE TIDE HAD ALREADY
HE SAID THE TIDE HAD ALREADY TURNED ON COVID-19 WHEN BIDEN
TURNED ON COVID-19 WHEN BIDEN
TURNED ON COVID-19 WHEN BIDEN BECAME PRESIDENT AND OF COURSE
BECAME PRESIDENT AND OF COURSE
BECAME PRESIDENT AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT OPERATION WARP SPEED HAPPENS
OPERATION WARP SPEED HAPPENS
OPERATION WARP SPEED HAPPENS UNDER JOE BIDEN BUT GETTING
UNDER JOE BIDEN BUT GETTING
UNDER JOE BIDEN BUT GETTING VACCINES INTO ARMS WAS A BIDEN
VACCINES INTO ARMS WAS A BIDEN
VACCINES INTO ARMS WAS A BIDEN OPERATION.
OPERATION.
OPERATION. >> AS YOU SEE HIS EVOLUTION AS
>> AS YOU SEE HIS EVOLUTION AS
>> AS YOU SEE HIS EVOLUTION AS POLITICIAN, DID IT SURPRISE YOU
POLITICIAN, DID IT SURPRISE YOU
POLITICIAN, DID IT SURPRISE YOU OF HIS ABILITY BEING A BIG
OF HIS ABILITY BEING A BIG
OF HIS ABILITY BEING A BIG TARGET?
TARGET?
TARGET? >> THERE WAS A THREE-LINE HERE.
>> THERE WAS A THREE-LINE HERE.
>> THERE WAS A THREE-LINE HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATIC
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATIC
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE THAT JOE BIDEN GAVE IN
RESPONSE THAT JOE BIDEN GAVE IN
RESPONSE THAT JOE BIDEN GAVE IN 1983, HE TALKED ABOUT TWO CORNER
1983, HE TALKED ABOUT TWO CORNER
1983, HE TALKED ABOUT TWO CORNER STONES AMERICAN RIGHTS, FAIRNESS
STONES AMERICAN RIGHTS, FAIRNESS
STONES AMERICAN RIGHTS, FAIRNESS AND OPPORTUNITY.
AND OPPORTUNITY.
AND OPPORTUNITY. WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT IN THE JOE
WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT IN THE JOE
WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT IN THE JOE BIDEN'S SPEECH WAS A LOT OF TALK
BIDEN'S SPEECH WAS A LOT OF TALK
BIDEN'S SPEECH WAS A LOT OF TALK OF FAIRNESS AND SOME TALK OF
OF FAIRNESS AND SOME TALK OF
OF FAIRNESS AND SOME TALK OF OPPORTUNITY.
OPPORTUNITY.
OPPORTUNITY. THERE IS A LOT OF TALK OF
THERE IS A LOT OF TALK OF
THERE IS A LOT OF TALK OF OPPORTUNITY AND NOT A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY AND NOT A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY AND NOT A LOT OF TALK OF FAIRNESS.
TALK OF FAIRNESS.
TALK OF FAIRNESS. IN SOME WAYS IT MISSES SOMETHING
IN SOME WAYS IT MISSES SOMETHING
IN SOME WAYS IT MISSES SOMETHING THAT IT IS CHANGING IN THE
THAT IT IS CHANGING IN THE
THAT IT IS CHANGING IN THE AMERICAN ELECTRIC PARTICULARLY
AMERICAN ELECTRIC PARTICULARLY
AMERICAN ELECTRIC PARTICULARLY AMONG THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
AMONG THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
AMONG THE YOUNG PEOPLE. >> YOU WENT BACK AND LISTEN TO A
>> YOU WENT BACK AND LISTEN TO A
>> YOU WENT BACK AND LISTEN TO A BIDEN RESPOND TO A SPEECH IN
BIDEN RESPOND TO A SPEECH IN
BIDEN RESPOND TO A SPEECH IN 1983.
1983.
1983. >> GOOD SATURDAY NIGHT.
>> GOOD SATURDAY NIGHT.
>> GOOD SATURDAY NIGHT. >> ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT
>> ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT
>> ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT HAVING A TIM SCOTT IN THE MIX IS
HAVING A TIM SCOTT IN THE MIX IS
HAVING A TIM SCOTT IN THE MIX IS THAT HE'S REACHING OUT AND HE'S
THAT HE'S REACHING OUT AND HE'S
THAT HE'S REACHING OUT AND HE'S WORKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON
WORKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON
WORKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON THE POLICING STUFF.
THE POLICING STUFF.
THE POLICING STUFF. IT DOES TAKE SOME COURAGE.
IT DOES TAKE SOME COURAGE.
IT DOES TAKE SOME COURAGE. I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS CREDIT.
I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS CREDIT.
I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS CREDIT. HE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION
HE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION
HE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION SOON.
SOON.
SOON. HE CAN GET PRIMARY IF HE GOES
HE CAN GET PRIMARY IF HE GOES
HE CAN GET PRIMARY IF HE GOES TOO FAR IN A LIBERAL ELECTION.
TOO FAR IN A LIBERAL ELECTION.
TOO FAR IN A LIBERAL ELECTION. HE DOES HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO
HE DOES HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO
HE DOES HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO SAY THAT I KNOW POLICING IS A
SAY THAT I KNOW POLICING IS A
SAY THAT I KNOW POLICING IS A PROBLEM, I DEALT WITH IT AND I
PROBLEM, I DEALT WITH IT AND I
PROBLEM, I DEALT WITH IT AND I WANT TO WORK ON IT.
WANT TO WORK ON IT.
WANT TO WORK ON IT. DEMOCRATS SHOULD APPLAUD THAT.
DEMOCRATS SHOULD APPLAUD THAT.
DEMOCRATS SHOULD APPLAUD THAT. I JUST THINK THAT SOME OF THE
I JUST THINK THAT SOME OF THE
I JUST THINK THAT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HE'S TRYING TO
OTHER THINGS HE'S TRYING TO
OTHER THINGS HE'S TRYING TO POLISH UP IS CLEAR REPUBLICANS
POLISH UP IS CLEAR REPUBLICANS
POLISH UP IS CLEAR REPUBLICANS ARE ATTACKING VOTING RIGHTS.
ARE ATTACKING VOTING RIGHTS.
ARE ATTACKING VOTING RIGHTS. THEY'RE NOT PASSING A BUNCH OF
THEY'RE NOT PASSING A BUNCH OF
THEY'RE NOT PASSING A BUNCH OF BILLS TO TRY TO MAKE VOTING
BILLS TO TRY TO MAKE VOTING
BILLS TO TRY TO MAKE VOTING EASIER.
EASIER.
EASIER. HIS GENIUS IS WORTHY OF A BETTER
HIS GENIUS IS WORTHY OF A BETTER
HIS GENIUS IS WORTHY OF A BETTER CAUSE AND TRYING TO DEFEND SOME
CAUSE AND TRYING TO DEFEND SOME
CAUSE AND TRYING TO DEFEND SOME OF THE STUFF HE'S DOING.
OF THE STUFF HE'S DOING.
OF THE STUFF HE'S DOING. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT BORDERS AND IMMIGRATIONS AND DID
BORDERS AND IMMIGRATIONS AND DID
BORDERS AND IMMIGRATIONS AND DID NOT TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF
NOT TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF
NOT TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN CRITICIZING HIM TONIGHT FOR NOT
CRITICIZING HIM TONIGHT FOR NOT
CRITICIZING HIM TONIGHT FOR NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BORDER CRISIS
TALKING ABOUT THE BORDER CRISIS
TALKING ABOUT THE BORDER CRISIS AND SO MANY PEOPLE COMING ACHRIS
AND SO MANY PEOPLE COMING ACHRIS
AND SO MANY PEOPLE COMING ACHRIS
ACROSS THE PAST FEW MONTHS. FES
ACROSS THE PAST FEW MONTHS. FES
ACROSS THE PAST FEW MONTHS. FES HIM.
HIM.
HIM. HE HOPES THE DISCUSSION WOULD
HE HOPES THE DISCUSSION WOULD
HE HOPES THE DISCUSSION WOULD SIGNIFY -- HE DID TALK ABOUT
SIGNIFY -- HE DID TALK ABOUT
SIGNIFY -- HE DID TALK ABOUT ASSIGNING THE VICE PRESIDENT TO
ASSIGNING THE VICE PRESIDENT TO
ASSIGNING THE VICE PRESIDENT TO TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE
TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE
TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE LEADING TO THE
ISSUES THAT ARE LEADING TO THE
ISSUES THAT ARE LEADING TO THE CRISIS.
CRISIS.
CRISIS. HE DIDN'T COMPLETELY -- HE
HE DIDN'T COMPLETELY -- HE
HE DIDN'T COMPLETELY -- HE DIDN'T OFFER A SOLUTION
DIDN'T OFFER A SOLUTION
DIDN'T OFFER A SOLUTION PARTICULARLY TONIGHT BUT YOU
PARTICULARLY TONIGHT BUT YOU
PARTICULARLY TONIGHT BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST GETTING BACK
KNOW, AGAIN, JUST GETTING BACK
KNOW, AGAIN, JUST GETTING BACK TO HIS SPEECH.
TO HIS SPEECH.
TO HIS SPEECH. I REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY
I REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY
I REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY I REGRET THAT HE HAD TO TOUCH
I REGRET THAT HE HAD TO TOUCH
I REGRET THAT HE HAD TO TOUCH ALL THOSE BASES.
ALL THOSE BASES.
ALL THOSE BASES. IF IT HAD JUST BEEN ABOUT
IF IT HAD JUST BEEN ABOUT
IF IT HAD JUST BEEN ABOUT ECONOMIC ISSUES HE'S PUSHING, IT
ECONOMIC ISSUES HE'S PUSHING, IT
ECONOMIC ISSUES HE'S PUSHING, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE POWERFUL,
WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE POWERFUL,
WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE POWERFUL, NOT THAT THOSE ISSUES, THE OTHER
NOT THAT THOSE ISSUES, THE OTHER
NOT THAT THOSE ISSUES, THE OTHER ISSUES ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO
ISSUES ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO
ISSUES ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE BUT THE ESSENCE OF HIS
PEOPLE BUT THE ESSENCE OF HIS
PEOPLE BUT THE ESSENCE OF HIS SPEECH WAS ECONOMIC SPEECH.
SPEECH WAS ECONOMIC SPEECH.
SPEECH WAS ECONOMIC SPEECH. IT WAS STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH
IT WAS STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH
IT WAS STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH ATTACHED TO AN ECONOMIC SPEECH.
ATTACHED TO AN ECONOMIC SPEECH.
ATTACHED TO AN ECONOMIC SPEECH. >> THESE THINGS TEND TO BE
>> THESE THINGS TEND TO BE
>> THESE THINGS TEND TO BE LAUNDRY LIST AND FROM BEING IN
LAUNDRY LIST AND FROM BEING IN
LAUNDRY LIST AND FROM BEING IN THE WHITE HOUSE KINDS OF GETTING
THE WHITE HOUSE KINDS OF GETTING
THE WHITE HOUSE KINDS OF GETTING PASSED AROUND.
PASSED AROUND.
PASSED AROUND. >> IT IS AWFUL.
>> IT IS AWFUL.
>> IT IS AWFUL. >> THE BEGINNING I THINK AND THE
>> THE BEGINNING I THINK AND THE
>> THE BEGINNING I THINK AND THE END WAS WHAT BIDEN WANTED TO
END WAS WHAT BIDEN WANTED TO
END WAS WHAT BIDEN WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHICH IS OUR
TALK ABOUT WHICH IS OUR
TALK ABOUT WHICH IS OUR DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE.
DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE.
DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE. THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH SCOTT AND
THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH SCOTT AND
THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH SCOTT AND REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW IS YES,
REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW IS YES,
REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW IS YES, BIDEN IS PROPOSING ALL THESE
BIDEN IS PROPOSING ALL THESE
BIDEN IS PROPOSING ALL THESE SPENDING AND FIGURING OUT A WAY
SPENDING AND FIGURING OUT A WAY
SPENDING AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR IT.
TO PAY FOR IT.
TO PAY FOR IT. REPUBLICANS HAVE NO CREDIBILITY
REPUBLICANS HAVE NO CREDIBILITY
REPUBLICANS HAVE NO CREDIBILITY PAYING FOR
PAYING FOR
PAYING FOR IF ONLY THEY'D PAY FOR THINGS IN
IF ONLY THEY'D PAY FOR THINGS IN
IF ONLY THEY'D PAY FOR THINGS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THEY SAY BIGGEST TAX INCREASE,
THEY SAY BIGGEST TAX INCREASE,
THEY SAY BIGGEST TAX INCREASE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
ET CETERA, ET CETERA. WELL, THEY HAD ONE.
WELL, THEY HAD ONE.
WELL, THEY HAD ONE. AND IT COST THE GOVERNMENT WHAT,