Okay, say trees, you lose that sense of time and you're suddenly surrounded by all these new smells and these sounds of the birds and the sounds of you know those branches when they creak.

It just is like a whole amazing thing for the senses.

That's kind of what I'm trying, I'm trying to get that feeling of sometimes the mystery of it.

Now I walk into a kind of would always feel that I'm entering into a different pattern of time or something.

It's like the way light is chopped up by the leaves of it feels like the moment itself is kind of chopped up a little bit and lots of different moments are almost held within the envelope of that little forest.

Quite a magical way way.

It's actually quite hard to envisage an environment without trees and their habitats and what they mean and how they how they behave.

It's a rich creative world and I can't think that anybody's life is worse off for having trees in it.

Part of improving it for wildlife is increasing number of trees.

Trees do quite useful things don't get any ideas what trees do.

Well we as Muslims believe we are custodians, caretakers of the earth.

So we're hoping that by planting a tree we will benefit the earth and it will preserve it for future generations.

If a muslim plants, a tree and a bird an animal or a child benefit from it, then it will be classed as a child.

People act and it's an act that doesn't stop.

It can carry on even till the hereafter I suppose I connect trees with memory really and with with time and maybe even learning learning about time, you know, a is for apple a's very corn.

Maybe there's some dim connection in my head between trees and alphabets and books and learning.

I'm particularly interested in the relationship between people and trees.

I mean I I know probably a few 100 of the trees in this plantation personally.

I revisit the same train thing.

How are you today?

I want to know how you're you springtime yet, are you?

I want to know when the tree first produces its its first flowers.

I mean it's like a farmer having lambs.

It's that same thrill of seeing new life, isn't it?

I have to try and get this right cause it's a really good quote by nature.

Still nature is the fountainhead the source from whence almost originally spring.

And should an artist continue his practice without referring to nature, he must soon form a manner.

And that's what I was finding was happening with my work.

I was like actually my work is becoming incredibly mannered and so I went into the middle of the rainforest and did a residency in the jungle and I didn't intend on it becoming the, you know, the whole rest of my practice, well not forever, but up until now.

And just fell in love with these landscapes.

And I came home and after being in this place where my eyes were completely opened to like, you know, the twists of the branches and the curls and the leaves.

And when I was looking at my own landscape and all these woodlands around me, it was like I was looking at them for the first time.

And so it kind of continued this inspiration that, you know, had to had to paint them.

It was monday bank holiday near the end of May rough middle of the day year and of the country if the country is England Oak, Apple or oak and nettle day axis of my year.

Thinly plotted as my tree the far end of our thinning garden in a border shape to waver like a child's drawing of C It's clock handed.

Why?

Where the trunk parted ways?

A first rung that even just turned seven.

I step onto into the above this wobbly earth above earth wordlessly.

I knew then I'd later begun like possibly my tree house from that border and my attention divided thinly as the light or is that time through the green gray space I was sitting in as I reached up for a branch or is it balance or vantage on this tentative level?

A story.

How did it feel to plant something to be proud of?

Yeah.

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