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  • .

  • OKAY.

  • THAT'S IT FROM ME.

  • I NOW WITH GREAT PLEASURE YIELD

  • ON AS MUCH OF THIS HISTORY AS HE

  • CARES TO IS NEWT GINGRICH,

  • FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,

  • FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND AUTHOR

  • OF, "DEFEATING BIG GOVERNMENT

  • SOCIALISM," SAVING AMERICA'S

  • FUTURE.

  • I YIELD TO THE GREAT HONORABLE,

  • AND BRILLIANT SPEAKER

  • NEWT GINGRICH.

  • NEWT, WE CAN TALK HISTORY.

  • WE CAN TALK POLITICS.

  • WE CAN DO ANY DARN THING YOU

  • FEEL LIKE DOING.

  • >> WELL, I THINK YOU COVERED A

  • LOT OF THE GROUND PRETTY DARN

  • WELL.

  • THERE WERE 14 MULTIPLE BALLOT

  • SPEAKERSHIPS.

  • THE LONGEST ONE IS ACTUALLY 1855

  • WHEN IT TOOK TWO MONTHS AND 133

  • BALLOTS.

  • NOW I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO

  • GET TO THAT, BUT I HAVE TO TELL

  • YOU, I'VE BEEN WATCHING C-SPAN

  • MORE INTENTLY TODAY THAN ANYTIME

  • IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AND I

  • WAS IMPRESSED THAT EVEN WHEN THE

  • REBEL ABOUTS DECIDED TO

  • CONSOLIDATE AROUND JIM JORDAN,

  • WHO OF COURSE HAD JUST NOMINATED

  • KEVIN McCARTHY, THE NUMBER OF

  • VOTES DIDN'T CHANGE, THEY DIDN'T

  • GET ANY NEW VOTES.

  • I'M LOOKING TO THE THIRD, FOURTH

  • AND FIFTH BALLOTS TO SEE WHAT

  • WILL HAPPEN.

  • MY GUESS IS THAT McCARTHY IN

  • FACT WILL IN THE END BE SPEAKER.

  • I WROTE A NEWSLETTER RECENTLY

  • POINTING IT WAS KEVIN OR CHAOS.

  • IF FOR ANY REASON THE RADICALS

  • WERE TO SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO DRIVE

  • HIM OUT, THEY WOULD HAVE

  • ESTABLISHED A PRECEDENT THAT

  • ANYBODY ELSE CAN DO THE SAME

  • THING.

  • LINCOLN WARNED ABOUT THIS IN HIS

  • FIRST INAUGURAL.

  • SAID THE PROBLEM WITH SECESSION

  • IS, ONCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED

  • THAT RIGHT, EVERYBODY CAN SECEDE

  • FROM EVERYBODY.

  • THE FIVE WHO STARTED THIS FIVE

  • HAVE NOW GIVEN EVERY OTHER

  • MEMBER OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN

  • PARTY THE MORAL RIGHT TO GO OUT

  • AND FIND FOUR FRIENDS AND HAVE

  • THE SAME CHAOS.

  • I THINK THAT'S WHY THE

  • CONFERENCE HAS BEEN

  • OVERWHELMINGLY SOLID.

  • THEY STILL ARE OVERWHELMINGLY

  • SOLID, EVEN WITH JIM JORDAN'S

  • NAME.

  • JORDAN CERTAINLY A VERY SERIOUS

  • PERSON.

  • THE NUMBERS DIDN'T CHANGE AT

  • ALL.

  • THEY HAD 19.

  • KEVIN GOT 202.

  • THAT MEANS HE IS GETTING BETTER

  • THAN 10 VOTES FOR EVERY VOTE THE

  • REBELS CAN PUT TOGETHER.

  • I THINK THEY HAVE NO ENGAME.

  • THESE PEOPLE CAN'T PLAY

  • TIC-TAC-TOE.

  • I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE

  • PROBLEM.

  • THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEMSELVES

  • CAUGHT IN THE BUS.

  • GOT THEMSELVES IN THE POSITION.

  • THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF IT.

  • IF KEVIN IS PREPARED CALMLY,

  • WAIT THEM OUT.

  • THE DISTRICTS ARE CALLING THEM,

  • WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

  • WHY ARE YOU RUINING THE

  • REPUBLICAN PARTY?

  • LARRY: NEWT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST

  • SEEMS TO ME, AND I HAVE BEEN IN

  • TOUCH, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL OVER

  • THIS THING.

  • I'VE BEEN OUT FOR A WEEK OR SO

  • BUT I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH A LOT IN

  • THE LAST 48 HOURS TO FRIENDS OF

  • MINE WHO ARE HOUSE MEMBERS OR

  • SENIOR STAFF.

  • SEEMS TO ME, NEWT THIS IS ABOUT

  • PERSONALITIES, NOT POLICIES.

  • I DON'T LIKE THINGS ABOUT

  • PERSONALITIES.

  • I DON'T LIKE THINGS TO GET

  • PERSONAL.

  • POLITICS SHOULD BE A NOBLE

  • PROFESSION DONE WITH CIVILITY.

  • YOU FOUGHT FOR THAT YOUR WHOLE

  • CAREER.

  • THERE ARE ISSUES.

  • STAY WITH THE GOP.

  • THE GOP HAS COMMITMENT TO

  • AMERICA.

  • I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM GET

  • STARTED ON IT.

  • >> YOU KNOW WHEN JIM JORDAN GOT

  • UP AND KEVIN ON THE SECOND ROUND

  • HE GAVE A VERY ELOQUENT SPEECH.

  • I TWEETED HOW GOOD I THOUGHT IT

  • WAS.

  • HE MADE THE POINT THAT THE

  • AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED THIS

  • REPUBLICAN MAJORITY TO DO VERY

  • SERIOUS THINGS THAT ARE VERY

  • IMPORTANT TO AMERICA'S FUTURE

  • AND THAT THESE GUYS ARE FRANKLY

  • REALLY VIOLATING THE ENTIRE

  • REASON THE CONSERVATIVES AND

  • REPUBLICANS WORKED SO HARD.

  • REMEMBER, ON THE HOUSE HARD WE

  • GOT 3 1/2 MILLION MORE VOTES

  • THAN THE DEMOCRATS.

  • KEVIN LEGITIMATETY CAN CLAIM TO

  • SPEAK FOR A MAJORITY.

  • I THINK IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO

  • RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A

  • GAME.

  • I AM TOLD BY PRETTY GOOD SOURCE

  • THAT LAST NIGHT SEVERAL OF THESE

  • FOLKS WENT IN TO SEE KEVIN AND

  • THEY HAD A WHOLE NEW LIST OF 30

  • ITEMS, SOME OF WHICH WERE

  • FRANKLY PRETTY EMBARRASSINGLY

  • VENAL WHO OUGHT TO BE PUT ON

  • APPROPRIATIONS, WHO OUGHT TO BE

  • PUT ON RULES, WHO OUGHT TO GET

  • TO CHAIR SOMETHING.

  • TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BASICALLY

  • TRYING TO BLACKMAIL.

  • THEY'RE NOT BLACKMAILING KEVIN

  • McCARTHY.

  • THEY'RE BLACKMAILING A

  • REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE IN WHICH

  • 85% OF THE CONFERENCE VOTED FOR

  • McCARTHY OVER HIS COMPETITOR.

  • NORMALLY IN EVERY SOCIETY I KNOW

  • OF, 85% IS A PRETTY BIG

  • MAJORITY.

  • NORMALLY YOU WOULD FIND PEOPLE

  • COMING TOGETHER.

  • SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS

  • WILL TAKE.

  • I DO THINK IN THE END McCARTHY

  • WILL BECOME SPEAKER.

  • FOR ONE THING HE WILL HAVE A LOT

  • HIGHER NAME I.D. THAN HE WOULD

  • HAVE HAD WITHOUT THIS FIGHT.

  • IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH.

  • VERY SERIOUS PLAN AS YOU KNOW TO

  • REALLY CHANGE THINGS.

  • LARRY: NO, I DON'T MEAN TO INTER

  • RESULT.

  • I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN SOME

  • WAYS THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THIS

  • BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD IS NOW

  • WATCHING AND KEVIN McCARTHY

  • HAS BECOME A HOUSEHOLD WORD.

  • AS LONG AS THEY SPELL THE NAME

  • RIGHT IT IS GOING TO WORK OUT

  • OKAY.

  • I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO WORK

  • OUT OKAY.

  • WHEREAS BEFORE THIS IT WAS A

  • SMALL THING.

  • NOW IT IS A GIGANTIC THING.

  • I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYBODY

  • TELL ME IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO,

  • WHETHER THE REPUBLICANS TOOK THE

  • HOUSE.

  • I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT

  • ANYMORE.

  • THIS TAKES ALL THAT STUFF AWAY,

  • PUTS IT ON THE FRONT PAGE AND,

  • WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO MAKE

  • CHANGES AND BLUNT THE BIDEN

  • RADICAL AGENDA ALSO BECOMES PART

  • OF THAT FRONT PAGE STORY.

  • >> THAT'S RIGHT.

  • ALL I WOULD SAY IS, I WOULD

  • APPEAL TO EVERYBODY WATCHING, IF

  • YOU'RE IN THE DISTRICT OF ONE OF

  • THESE SO-CALLED REBELS, PICK UP

  • THE PHONE AND CALL THEIR OFFICE.

  • I MEAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SO

  • DESTRUCTIVE AND CANDIDLY SO

  • STUPID.

  • THEY HAVE NO END GAME.

  • THEY HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH

  • WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

  • THEY'RE THROWING THE EQUIVALENT

  • OF A TEMPER TANTRUM.

  • THE MORE THEY HEAR FROM BACK

  • HOME, THE MORE PEOPLE SAY TO

  • THEM, LET'S GET ON WITH DOING

  • AMERICA'S BUSINESS, NOT

  • GRANDSTANDING, THE SOONER THIS

  • WILL END.

  • LARRY: 100%.

  • NEWT GINGRICH, TERRIFIC STUFF AS

  • ALWAYS.

  • AMERICA'S -- BY THE WAY, NEWT, I

  • DON'T THINK YOU WERE AROUND

  • EITHER BUT I THOUGHT THOMAS JEFF

  • SON WAS WAY TOO LIBERAL GIVING

  • FIVE VOTES TO VACATE THE CHAIR

  • THAT REALLY IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW

  • YOU RUN THE PLACE ON THAT BASIS.

  • >> LOOK.

  • I COUNSELED HIM AGAINST IT.

  • I SAID, TOM, THIS IS NOT THE WAY

  • YOU OUGHT TO GO.

  • HE SAID, NEWT, I'M DISCUSS NOT

  • GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU.

  • LARRY: THAT'S FABULOUS.

  • NEWT GINGRICH, YOU ARE THE BEST.

  • HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY NEW YEAR

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