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WHEN HE RULES NEXT WEEK IF ANNA
MORGAN ENTERS THE GUILTY PLEA
SHE IS EXPECTED TO ENTER.
>> A RECOMMENDATION PHO HERFROM
HAIRDRESSER.
IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL.
I WANT TO BRING IN CHUCK HAGEL.
SECRETARY, I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU JOINING ME.
AFTER YOU SAW THAT VIDEO, A
FORMER POLICE OFFICER CHARGING A
CURRENT OFFICER, WAVING A MARINE
CORPS FLAG.
HOW DO REPUBLICANS CALL
THEMSELVES THE PARTY OF LAW AND
ORDER AND NOT SUPPORT AN
INVESTIGATION?
>> WELL, STEPHANIE, IT'S REALLY
ASTOUNDING.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN, ESPECIALLY THE
LAST FOUR YEARS IN THE VIEW OF
MANY REPUBLICANS, ESPECIALLY IN
CONGRESS, FACTS DON'T MATTER.
I GUESS VIDEOS DON'T MATTER.
THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, THE
REALITY IS THE REALITY.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IS REALITY.
AND WHY THEY ARE SO AFRAID OF
THE TRUTH, TO GET TO THE TRUTH,
THE WHOLE POINT OF THE JANUARY
6th INDEPENDENT COMMISSION,
INDEPENDENT OF CONGRESS WAS TO
GET TO THE TRUTH BEHIND ALL
THIS.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS,
THE WORLD WILL SEE THIS PLAY OUT
MORE AND MORE OVER THE NEXT FEW
WEEKS AS MORE CASES COME UP FOR
TRIAL AND MORE VIDEOS COME OUT.
IT'S A DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY.
>> BUT WHAT IS THEIR STRATEGY
HERE?
TO CONTINUE TO DOWNPLAY THIS,
WE'RE HEARING FROM REPUBLICANS,
PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT WING MEDIA,
AND TO YOUR POINT, AMERICA HAS
SEEN IT, WE WATCHED THE VIDEO.
WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS?
I JUST DON'T GET IT.
>> WELL, I DON'T, EITHER, QUITE
FRANKLY.
I'M A REPUBLICAN.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS
ANYMORE, BUT THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY AND ITS LEADERS --
>> THEN WHY FIGHT IT?
>> THAT'S ANOTHER STORY, BUT I
THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND
ITS LEADERS HAVE LOST THEIR WAY.
YOUR QUESTION REALLY CON FRONTS
THAT.
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?
WHY ARE THEY ACTING LIKE THIS
DIDN'T HAPPEN OR IT WAS JUST
ANOTHER REGULAR DAY AT THE
CAPITOL OR JUST REGULAR
PROTESTING?
THIS WAS UNPRECEDENTED, AS WE
KNOW.
SO WHAT'S BEHIND ALL THIS, I
GUESS PRESIDENT TRUMP, I GUESS
WHAT HE'S BEEN SAYING FOR A
NUMBER OF MONTHS, THAT THE
ELECTION WAS FRAUDULENT, SO
LET'S TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK AND
RERUN THE ELECTION AND ALL THAT
GOES WITH THAT, AND ALL THAT HE
HAS BEEN SAYING AND HIS
FOLLOWERS, I GUESS IT'S TO
BOLSTER THAT ARGUMENT.
I DON'T KNOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP
CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT THESE
THINGS, TO SAY THESE THINGS THAT
JUST AREN'T TRUE.
AND THEY'RE HURTING THE COUNTRY.
YES, THEY'RE HURTING THEIR
PARTY, THEY'RE DIVIDING THEIR
PARTY, THEY'RE POLARIZING THE
COUNTRY IN DANGEROUS WAYS, BUT I
GUESS THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT
THAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE IS ONE THING
THAT SHOULD BE THE GUIDING POINT
AND THE COMPASS OF THE NORTH
STAR FOR EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THAT'S AN OATH OF OFFICE YOU
TAKE.
YOU TAKE AN OATH OF OFFICE TO
THE CONSTITUTION.
THAT'S NOT TO THE PRESIDENT, NOT
TO POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY.
WEAVER
WE'VE LOST THAT IN MANY WAYS.
WHAT THE STRATEGY IS, STEPHANIE,
I DON'T KNOW.
>> I'M REALLY SURPRISED BY
POLITICIANS BEING POLITICAL.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
VETERANS.
YOU'RE THE FORMER DEFENSE
SECRETARY.
YOU YOURSELF ARE A VETERAN.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE LARGE
NUMBER OF ACTIVE OR FORMER
POLICE OFFICERS AND MILITARY
VETERANS WHO WERE PERSONALLY
INVOLVED, WHO WERE
INSURRECTIONISTS THEMSELVES, AND
THE LIST SEEMS TO KEEP GROWING?
>> WELL, IT'S DISGRACEFUL, TO
START WITH.
THEY VIOLATED EVERY PREMISE AND
EVERY COMMITMENT THEY MADE TO
THIS COUNTRY --
>> WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?
>> -- AND THEIR SERVICE TO THIS
COUNTRY.
I SUSPECT IT'S BECAUSE -- AND
WE'VE SEEN POLLING ON THIS OVER
THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THEY'VE LOST CONFIDENCE AND
TRUST IN OUR INSTITUTIONS AND
OUR LEADERS.
THEY HAVE FALLEN PREY TO THE
CRAZIES WHO ARE OUT THERE
SPREADING LIES ABOUT OUR
GOVERNMENT, ABOUT OUR COUNTRY,
ABOUT OUR LEADERS.
I MEAN, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S WHOLE
FOUR YEARS IN OFFICE WAS ABOUT
THAT, WAS ABOUT MISDIRECTION.
I'M GOING TO DRAIN THE SWAMP,
I'M GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE
PLACE, EVERYBODY IS A LIAR.
THE NEWS MEDIA IS THE ENEMY OF
THE PEOPLE, THE NEWS MEDIA.
I SUSPECT THAT THEY HAVE FALLEN
VICTIM TO BELIEVING THAT KIND OF
THING, AND THEY THINK THAT THIS
IS THE WAY TO CHANGE IT, TO
RESURRECT WHATEVER THEY
BELIEVED.
I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS, BECAUSE WE
ALL SUFFER FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT
INFECTS ALL INSTITUTIONS.
LLOYD AUSTIN HAS GOT AN ISSUE
OVER AT D.O.D. AS HE IS DEALING
WITH THIS ISSUE, EXTREMEISMEXTRE
EVERY INSTITUTION IN OUR COUNTRY
IS DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.
HOW DEEP IS EXTREMISM IN THE
BODY OF AN INSTITUTION?
IT'S A SERIOUS CHALLENGE TO THIS
COUNTRY.
>> IT'S JUST STUNNING BECAUSE
YOU WOULD THINK THAT VETERANS,
LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, SORT
OF THE MOST GROUNDED PEOPLE WE
HAVE ARE OUT THERE FOLLOWING A
TOTALLY DISTORTED REALITY FROM A
FORMER REALITY TV STAR WHO LOST
THE PRESIDENCY.
I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
POLITICS AND MINORITY LEADER
MITCH McCONNELL'S STRATEGY.
IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S GOING WITH
HIS FORMER PLAYBOOK THAT HE USED
WHEN OBAMA WAS IN OFFICE, BLOCK,
BLOCK, BLOCK.
CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW
LOCAL POLITICS WORKS, ESPECIALLY AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE?
AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE?
I'M NOT A KENTUCKIAN, BUT I
WOULD GUESS THEY COULD USE
BETTER ROADS AND BETTER
BROADBAND.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD
STRATEGY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
WHO IS OPPOSED TO
INFRASTRUCTURE?
REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS,
INDEPENDENTS, COMMUNISTS?
EVERYBODY LIKES INFRASTRUCTURE
BECAUSE IT BRINGS JOBS, IT
BRINGS ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO A
COMMUNITY, IT IMPROVES A
COMMUNITY, IT IMPROVES IT IN
EVERY WAY.
I THINK WHAT MR. McCONNELL'S
STRATEGY IS, YOU'VE GOT A 50-50
SENATE AND EVERYTHING IS ABOUT
NEXT NOVEMBER TO BREAK THAT
50-50 LOCK.
I SUSPECT THAT HE IS MANEUVERING
AND STRATEGIZING EVERYTHING
GOING ON NOW TO GET TO THAT
50-50 DEADLOCK ISSUE NEXT
NOVEMBER SO REPUBLICANS CAN
RETAKE THE SENATE.
THE HOUSE HAS GOT A DEMOCRATIC
MAJORITY BY A NARROW SIX OR
SEVEN VOTES, SAME THING WITH
McCARTHY IN THE HOUSE.
I THINK THAT'S TERRIBLY
IRRESPONSIBLE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
I DON'T THINK ANY LEADERSHIP
SHOULD PUT THAT FIRST OVER THE
INTERESTS OF A COUNTRY, THEIR
POLITICAL INTERESTS OF THEIR
PARTY.
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE AT
THAT POINT, I THINK, IN THIS
COUNTRY.
LEADERS WHO DO THAT FAIL THE
COUNTRY.
>> I GUESS I'M JUST NAIVE.
I WOULD THINK THAT IF I LIVED
SOMEWHERE THAT NEEDED NEW ROADS
AND BRIDGES AND BETTER WI-FI
THAT PEOPLE FROM MY STATE WOULD
LOOK AND SEE HOW I VOTED ON
APPROVING THAT.
AND IF I VOTED AGAINST IT, THEY
WOULDN'T LIKE IT VERY MUCH.