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STATION TEN.
>> HI,ARREN, HI, CHARLIE
MY NAME IS ANDERSON FULLER, AND
I'M FROM DAVENPORT, NOVA SCOTIA,
IN CANADA.
BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTION, I NT
TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUE DONE
TO GIVE US INSIGHT INTO YOUR
GUYS' EMASIS AND SUCCESSFUL UR
USE OF PROPERLY ALIGNED
INCENTIVES
IN MY VIEW, OWNING AND LEADING A
BUSINE HAS TWO CENTRAL
BENEFITS
FIT, YOU DIRECTLY BENEFIT AS
THE MPANY GOES THROUGH YOUR
EQUITY IN IT, AND SECOND, YOU
HAVE AUTONOMY.
INCENTIVES FOR EMPLOYEES ARE A
BIT EAER TO UNDERSTAND SUCAS
OFFERING BENEFITS, FAIR PAY, AND
CREATING A STRONG CULTURE.
UNDERSTAND THEM AT THE HIGHEST
LEVEL.
EVENHOUGH YOU SAY BERKSHIRE
GIVES ITS MANAGERS SIGNIFICA
FLEXIBILITY, IT MUST BE LESS
THAN WHAT THEY H WHEN THEY
RE INDEPENDENT
ADDITIONALLY, YOU WOULD THIN
PASSION AND A WILLINGNESS TO
SELL WOU BE INVERSELY
CORRELATED
SO HOW EXACTLY DOES BERKSHIRE
BRIDGE TS GAP AND INCENTIVE
OWNERS OF ITS SUBSIDIARIES TO
GI UP THESE BENEFITS TO
BERKSHIRE?
THANK YOU.
>> WHAT WE REALLY HOPE TO FIND
IS MANAGERS WHO LOVE THEIR
BUSINESS BUT DON'T LIKE A LOT OF
WHAT COMES WITH IT AA PUBLIC
COMPANY.
MEAN, IF THEY HAVE TO END A
LOT OF TIME LISTENING TO PPLE
TELL THEM WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS
OR TT, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD
TO IRRITE THEM OR THEY HAVE TO
GO ALONG WITH THR TRADE
ASSOCIATION, WHATEVER THEY MAY
CALL IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT
TOOOK LIKE A FREE RIDER,
THE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS,
COMPROMISES THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO
MAKE IN ST JOBS.
AND CHARLIE AND I SOLVED THAT
PRLEM.
I HAD FIVE BOSSES INY LIFE
AND I LIKED ALL FIVE OF THEM,
D TWO OF THEM WERE JUST HUGE
FACTORS MAKING MY LIFE
BETTER
BUT I LIKED ALL FIVE OF THEM
A COUPLE OF THEM WERE -- SOME
PEOPLE AT JJCPENNEY, COOPER SMET
SMITH, I LOVED WORKING AT -- I
DIDN'T LE PARKING AT PENNEY'S,
BUT I LOVED WORKFOR COOPER
HOURH AND, YOU KNOW,5 CENTS AN
BUT I HAD -- I HAD TO DO WHAT
THEY TOLD ME TO DO WHICH WAS TO
SELL MEN'S SHIRTS FIRST, THEN
MEN ALLEGES CLOTHING, THEN
CHILDREN'S CLOTHING AND SO ON.
AND I LOVED WORKING FOR THE
NEWSPAPER.
AND I HAD A GREAT MANAGER WHEN I
WAS IN NEBRASK
GOT TO THE WORK FOR BEN GRAHAM
I MEAN, EVERYTHING WORKED OUT,
T -- THERE'S NOTHING LIKE
WORKING FOR YOURSELF
AND IF YOU CAN'TWN A BIG
COMPANY, WORKING AT BERKIRE
HATHAWAY AND RUNNING A COMPANY
IS THE CLOSEST THING YOU WILL
GET.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TIME
COURTING ANALYS WHO YOU'LL
PROBABLY HAVE CONTEMPT FOR IN
MANY CASES
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ME
WITH BANKS, YOU KNOW, GETTING
MONEY AND PARTICULARLY IN
TERRIBLE TIM
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF -- YOU GET
A LOT IN THE WAY OF FREEDOM.
I WOULD THINK WOULD BE
MEANGFUL TO ME, AND MIGHT BE
BETTER IF YOU OWNED THE WHOLE
PLE YOURSELF
BUT MAYBE YOU'VE GOT SIBLINGS
THAT -- THERE'S A MILLION
REASONS Y YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE
TO ACHIEVEHAT UNLESS YOU SL
THEM TO BERKSHIRE.
THAT'S EASIER PROBABLY IF THEY
HAVE A FAMILY BUSINE WHERE
PEOPLE WANT TO GO IN DIFFERENT
DIRECTIONS THAN IT IS FOR THE
PUBLIC COMPANY
BUT THERE'S STILL POSSIBILITIES
THERE.
SO THAT'S -- THAT'S WHY --
THAT'S WHY I THINK IF I OWNED A
PUBLIC COMPANY AND IT WAS WORTH
GREAT MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
AND BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY WANTED
BUY IT, AND THE SHAREHOLDERS
WERE WILLING TO VOTET, I
WOULD, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER THE
WAY I WOULD FEEL ABOUT LIFE.
FOR ONE THING, I WOULDN'T WANT
TO RETIRE AT 65.
I'D WANT TO KEEP WORKING
AND YOU KNOWWE -- WE JUST --
THERARE REASONS TO SELL TO
BERKSHIRE WHICH CHARLIE AND I IN
CERTAIN POSITIONS IF WE WERE ON
THE OTHER SIDE WOULD TAKE THE
DEAL
BUT IT ISN'T FOR EVERYBODY
CHARLIE?
>> I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD
ONE.
WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY, AND I
THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
GOING TO END UP THE WAY WE DID,
THEY ALMOST ALREADY KNOW HOW TO
DO IT.
>> THE MOST IMPORTANT PUHASE
IN RETROSPECT THAT WE MAY HAVE
MADE WAS NATIONAL ENDEMOCRATITY
IN
NOW BECAUSE SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT
LED TO, AND JACK RINGWALD
CONTROLLED T COMPANY
AND I KNEW HIM AND LIKED HIM,
AND HE KNEW ME
AND ONCE A YEAR HE'D GET
IRRITATED WHEN T NEBRASKA
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE OR
SOMEBODY WOULD COME AROUND AND
ID -- THEY ALWAYS CAME AROUND
WHEN THE RACE TRACK WAS OPEN
HE H ALL THESE THEORIES ABOUT
WHY IT WAS A PAIN IN THE NECK TO
AND I -- AND I TOLD CHARLIE
HYDER NEXT TIME JACK IS IN THAT
MOOD WHERE HE'S READY TO SELL
JUST BECAUSE HE'S TIRED OF
FOOLING AROUND WITH ALL THES
GUYS, BE SURE AND FIND HIM
AND SO CHARLIE CALLED ME ONE
DAY, AND HE SAYS JACK IS I
HEAT, I SAID BRING HEM IM OVER
WE MADE A DEAL
HE WAS HPY AFTER WE MADE THE
DEAL
I WAS HAPPY AFTER WE MADE THE
AL
TO CONTROL THE BUSINESS, THESE
PEOPLE DIDN'T SEEM TO BOTHER
THEM AS MUCH ONCE THEY WERE MY
PROBLEM AND NOT HIS.
AND YOU JUSTAN'T TELL WHEN
LIGHTNING WILL STRIKE.
AND THAT DIDN'T DO MAGNIFICENT
THINGS FOR UINITIALLY, BUT
JUST LOOAT WHAT IT LED TO, YOU
KNOW
AND THEN -- SO YOU NEVER -- YOU
KNOW, IF YOU KNEW HOW YOU WERE
GOING TO -- AGAIN, IF YOU KNEW
HOW YOU WERE GOING TO SHOOT ALL
18 HOLES, IT WLDN'T BE ANY FUN
PLAYING, YOU WOULDN'T GET ON THE
FIRST TEE.
I MEAN, IT'SHE UNCERTAINTY,
THE FUN OF PLAYING THE GAME, THE
OPPONENTS, ALL KIND OF THI