understand each other.

And by the way, I put myself in that

category, too, you know, try to

understand these people that I make fun

of or castigate or whatever.

We if we all did it a little more, it

would help us because what a horrible

place we're in now.

You know, we can't agree on anything.

What you just.

Did is what I'm talking about.

Like, that's that's what I mean.

I witnessed you do on your show.

It's not that the things that you're

saying are so profound.

You're simplifying a feeling and you're

trying to just simply paint a picture

to your audience to make your audience

see. Different perspectives and

different sides. To me, it has come off

heartfelt, it's come off courageous,

and I think it's dope as hell that you

used that platform to do so, knowing

that the consequences could be, you

know, divisive, ratings, etcetera.

And by the way, I do feel like I should

say, like I do feel like a lot of my

colleagues in late night are do the

same thing and do it really well.

And, you know, I do feel like one of

the things that helps keep me sane when

you see all these terrible things

happening is knowing that I can then go

on TV and say, Hey, this is not right

and maybe we should do this.

And I do think that for me and for my

wife says the same thing, you know,

it's like it's it's it's an outlet to

be able to speak about this stuff.

You just got finished talking about your

colleagues, the relationships between

the guys of late night today.

How are they? Are you guys is there an

amazing synergy that you guys had?

Is there a relationship between you?

I despise them all, No, Um I know it's

boring, but I really like every one of

those guys. Why do you think it's

boring?

It's not. I think people to hear.

Fun when people fight, but I think

there's also a really different reason

why we. We aren't, as at each other's

throats as Jay and Dave were.

And I think it's because everything is

splintered now. And so and because also

people watch our shows on YouTube

mostly. It's not like you have to

choose, you know, in the old days, you

just like, all right, I have to watch

either David Letterman or Jay Leno.

And, you know, they're both on at 11:30

and I'm going to have to pick one of

them. And it's not like that now.

Like, in fact, a lot of people will sit

there and they watch our show, the

monologue and Colbert and Seth Meyers

and Jimmy Fallon and James Gordon, you

know, and they watch all this stuff

because they just like late night

television.

I like that. I mean, more importantly, I

just like that you can say that people

need to hear it because it's not the

times of old.

And also, I love talking to those guys

because there were only like eight

people that have our job.

You know, like I went to dinner one

night with Seth Meyers and we just we

talked for like four hours straight.

And one of the best conversations I've

ever had because we just motored

through all of it.

Seth is a good dude, though.

Yeah, I like Seth a lot.

Do you guys share guests?

Hey, man, you don't want to get X, Y

and Z? Oh, pulling teeth.

Oh, God. Hey, have you had that happen?

Don't do it. Don't do it.

It's not the best.

I'm telling you now.

It's less of a warning usually, and more

of a commiseration.

You know, like we've already both

experienced it.

There are definitely.

There's definitely that for sure.