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  • What is your strategy to make up the difference and make sure that you win?

  • What is the winning strategy down to the home stretch?

  • The most important thing is that politics is the process of persuasion.

  • So we still need to persuade the Taiwanese public that we'd be the best choice.

  • We have to put our good points out there.

  • We don't have the baggage of other political parties.

  • The Taiwan' People Party has much less corruption issues.

  • Secondly, we represent a fresh political force.

  • If the governing parties had governed efficiently up until now, the public wouldn't be looking for us.

  • It's only because they're unhappy with the two parties that have governed Taiwan for the past 30 to 40 years that we have a chance at all.

  • How would you, on this day, articulate your stance on cross-strait relations?

  • Whether it leans more towards a status quo and de facto independence or more towards the Kuomintang, which would like to see much more engagement with mainland China.

  • For the time being, maintaining the status quo is the only choice we have because the US won't let Taiwan unify with China and China won't let Taiwan become independent.

  • There's no point in even talking about independence or unification right now because you can't achieve either.

  • So there's no reason to engage in unnecessary politics for something we can't achieve at this time.

  • But how would you diffuse the tension across the strait with China as President?

  • To handle the relations between Taiwan and China as things stand, there are two words - deterrence and communication.

  • First, Taiwan needs to have a strong enough national defense.

  • You can't leave a country's future completely in the hands of another country.

  • So Taiwan needs to have the capability to protect itself.

  • If you don't have the capability to protect yourself, you won't be given the opportunity to speak at the negotiating table.

  • We are very clear about this.

  • We can't go up against China with our own military.

  • We need to let China know that attacking Taiwan would have a very high cost.

  • So deterrence is one principle.

  • The other principle is communication.

  • As long as there is communication, it will reduce misunderstandings and constantly rising hostility between the two sides.

  • How would you reform the military then, and defense spending?

  • Tsai Ing-wen's government this last year put forward a budget that will be a record high.

  • Yes, a slower pace, but still a record high in spending.

  • Do you agree with what she is doing or would you agree that there needs to be more of an asymmetric approach?

  • The national defense budget needs to go up because peace comes at a cost.

  • What we don't like about the DPP is that they are opposing China every day, but I can't see them making any preparations.

  • I agree with the move to raise the national defense budget to 3% of GDP, but we disagree on their reckless spending.

  • For the defense of an island nation like Taiwan, the priority should be cybersecurity, Air Force, Navy and then Army, in that order.

  • So the budget should be distributed accordingly.

  • I'm sure you're aware of the Pentagon report that 2027 seems to be a target date, that many military officials in the United States see as the possibility of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

  • Is that something you give credence to and how would you mitigate against that possibility?

  • China's intentions towards Taiwan haven't changed in the past 70 years.

  • The only thing that's changed is that China has become stronger.

  • Whatever preparations the Chinese Communist Party is doing, Taiwan has to prepare accordingly.

  • We have to communicate with our counterparts on the basis of having self-defense capabilities.

  • So we should start with things that are not controversial, such as culture and sports.

  • This wouldn't be a problem - neither will oppose.

  • Then we start to increase economic exchanges, which no one will object to.

  • We must leave the political negotiations to the very end.

  • Do you think China essentially will talk to you if you don't accept the '92 Consensus?

  • When China asks if we accept the 1992 Consensus, the DPP government directly says no.

  • My answer is there doesn't seem to be a market for this in Taiwan.

  • Should we change the name?

  • Let's say you want to reject someone.

  • You still shouldn't directly say no, because that doesn't leave any room for change.

  • So I still believe that with dialog, there's an increase in good will and only with goodwill is there a way to take the next step.

  • Well, Xi Jinping obviously likes one country, two systems for Hong Kong.

  • That would never work for Taiwan, I assume?

  • Firstly, Taiwan has its own troops and elected government.

  • So Taiwan is definitely not Hong Kong.

  • The fundamentals are different.

  • Secondly, if China brings one country, two systems to the DPP, the DPP will answer no.

  • My answer is the Hong Kong way doesn't have a market in Taiwan.

  • Maybe we should think about other possibilities.

  • A real important principle is we have to think of a way to have dialog with China and not just always tell them no.

  • Because after no, there is no other step.

What is your strategy to make up the difference and make sure that you win?

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