Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles >>> NOW WE GO TO HONG KONG THOUSANDS OF PRO-DEMOCRACY THOUSANDS OF PRO-DEMOCRACY PROTESTERS ARE BEING ENGAGED IN PROTESTERS ARE BEING ENGAGED IN WHAT IS CALLED THE UMBRELLA WHAT IS CALLED THE UMBRELLA REVOLUTION. REVOLUTION. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. THESE ARE LIFE PICTURES FROM THE THESE ARE LIFE PICTURES FROM THE STREETS OF HONG KONG. STREETS OF HONG KONG. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GATHER TO PROTEST BEGIN'S PEOPLE GATHER TO PROTEST BEGIN'S PLAN TO SCREEN CANDIDATES FOR PLAN TO SCREEN CANDIDATES FOR THE LEADER, THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE. THE LEADER, THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE. THIS WAS THE SCENE YESTERDAY AS THIS WAS THE SCENE YESTERDAY AS POLICE FIRED CANISTERS OF TEAR POLICE FIRED CANISTERS OF TEAR GAS AND USED PEPPER SPRAY GAS AND USED PEPPER SPRAY AGAINST PROTEST TRYING TO JOIN AGAINST PROTEST TRYING TO JOIN COLLEGE STUDENTS. COLLEGE STUDENTS. THE REASON FOR THE TERM UMBRELLA THE REASON FOR THE TERM UMBRELLA REVOLUTION. REVOLUTION. PEOPLE ARE USING THEM AS PEOPLE ARE USING THEM AS PROTECTION AGAINST TEAR GAS. PROTECTION AGAINST TEAR GAS. THIS MORNING REPORTS THAT SOCIAL THIS MORNING REPORTS THAT SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITES INCLUDING MEDIA WEBSITES INCLUDING INSTAGRAM ARE BEING BLOCKED BY INSTAGRAM ARE BEING BLOCKED BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT. THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT. JOINING ME NOW BY PHONE CHINA JOINING ME NOW BY PHONE CHINA CORRESPONDENT. CORRESPONDENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME, FELI CIA. FELI CIA. >> HI, JOSE. >> HI, JOSE. IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE SCENE IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE SCENE OF DEFIANCE HERE AGAINST OF DEFIANCE HERE AGAINST BEIJING. BEIJING. IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE RULING COMMUNIST PARTY HERE THE RULING COMMUNIST PARTY HERE IS USED TO. IS USED TO. AS A RESULT, IT'S QUITE HARD TO AS A RESULT, IT'S QUITE HARD TO PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. NEXT. WHAT STARTED OUT AS STUDENT LED WHAT STARTED OUT AS STUDENT LED PROTESTS IN THE STREET OF HONG PROTESTS IN THE STREET OF HONG KONG'S CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT KONG'S CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT HAS REALLY JUST MORPH INTO HAS REALLY JUST MORPH INTO SOMETHING BIGGER THAN I THINK SOMETHING BIGGER THAN I THINK ANY OF THOSE STUDENTS HAD ANY OF THOSE STUDENTS HAD IMAGINED IT WOULD BE. IMAGINED IT WOULD BE. MEMBERS OF THE SO CALLED OCCUPY MEMBERS OF THE SO CALLED OCCUPY CENTRAL MOVEMENT ORIGINALLY CENTRAL MOVEMENT ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO GONE 0 THE STREET, PLANNED TO GONE 0 THE STREET, OCTOBER 1st. OCTOBER 1st. THEY MOVED UP THE DATE SINCE THE THEY MOVED UP THE DATE SINCE THE STUDENTS SEEMED TO TAKE CHARGE. STUDENTS SEEMED TO TAKE CHARGE. NOW IT SEEMS THAT IT CAUGHT THE NOW IT SEEMS THAT IT CAUGHT THE LEADERS OF BEIJING BY SURPRISE. LEADERS OF BEIJING BY SURPRISE. THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN A HARD LINE ON THIS, AND IT A HARD LINE ON THIS, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WILL DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WILL BUDGE BUT NEITHER WILL THE BUDGE BUT NEITHER WILL THE STUDENTS. STUDENTS. AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST RIGHT AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST RIGHT NOW A MATTER OF WAITING AND NOW A MATTER OF WAITING AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. SEEING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. >> AND I'M WONDERING HOW WHAT IS >> AND I'M WONDERING HOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN HONG KONG IS BEING GOING ON IN HONG KONG IS BEING PORTRAYED IN THE CHINESE MEDIA. PORTRAYED IN THE CHINESE MEDIA. IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S LIFE AS USUAL IN BEIJING IT'S LIFE AS USUAL IN BEIJING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE REPORTS ON CHINESE THERE ARE REPORTS ON CHINESE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. THE CHINESE EQUIVALENT OF THE CHINESE EQUIVALENT OF TWITTER THEY'VE BEEN DELETING TWITTER THEY'VE BEEN DELETING POSTS AT A RATE HIGHER THAN POSTS AT A RATE HIGHER THAN WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR. WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR. THE STATE RUN MEDIA, THE TV AND THE STATE RUN MEDIA, THE TV AND NEWSPAPERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE NEWSPAPERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE COMMUNIST PARTY. COMMUNIST PARTY. YOU ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT YOU YOU ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO SEE. TO SEE. THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW ANYTHING. ANYTHING. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTING FROM BEIJING THIS REPORTING FROM BEIJING THIS MORNING. MORNING. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO BRING IN SOPHIA I WANT TO BRING IN SOPHIA RICHARDSON. RICHARDSON. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME. YOU CALLED IT THE TECH TONIC YOU CALLED IT THE TECH TONIC PLATES ARE MOVING IN HONG KONG. PLATES ARE MOVING IN HONG KONG. WHAT IS GOING ON? WHAT IS GOING ON? >> WELL, AS JUST MENTIONED, THE >> WELL, AS JUST MENTIONED, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT ACCUSTOMED TO PEOPLE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO PEOPLE NOT FOLLOWING ITS INSTRUCTIONS. FOLLOWING ITS INSTRUCTIONS. IT'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR. IT'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR. THE PRESIDENTS THE THE PRESIDENTS THE DEMONSTRATIONS TO END AND FOR DEMONSTRATIONS TO END AND FOR PEOPLE TO GO HOME. PEOPLE TO GO HOME. BUT PEOPLE IN HONG KONG HAVE BUT PEOPLE IN HONG KONG HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS. VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A TERRITORY WHERE YOU KNOW, IT'S A TERRITORY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF PEOPLE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BEING ABLE TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST BEING ABLE TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST AND TO GET SOME DEGREE OF AND TO GET SOME DEGREE OF NEGOTIATION GOING WITH LOCAL NEGOTIATION GOING WITH LOCAL OFFICIALS. OFFICIALS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FIRST REAL CLASH WE'VE SEEN FIRST REAL CLASH WE'VE SEEN BETWEEN THAT INTRANSIGENCE IN BETWEEN THAT INTRANSIGENCE IN BEIJING BUT PRETTY BROAD CONCERN BEIJING BUT PRETTY BROAD CONCERN ACROSS THE POPULATION OF HONG ACROSS THE POPULATION OF HONG KONG THEY GET THE RIGHT TO KONG THEY GET THE RIGHT TO DECIDE HOW HONG KONG AFFAIRS ARE DECIDE HOW HONG KONG AFFAIRS ARE GOVERNED. GOVERNED. >> TELL ME WHAT SPARKED THIS. >> TELL ME WHAT SPARKED THIS. THIS IS NOT NEW. THIS IS NOT NEW. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR YEARS. YEARS. WHAT IS IT THAT SPARKED THIS WHAT IS IT THAT SPARKED THIS UMBRELLA REVOLUTION? UMBRELLA REVOLUTION? >> THE MOST IMMEDIATE PROBLEM >> THE MOST IMMEDIATE PROBLEM WAS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT'S WAS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT'S DECISION THAT IT AND IT ALONE DECISION THAT IT AND IT ALONE WOULD VET CANDIDATES IT WOULD WOULD VET CANDIDATES IT WOULD DECIDE WHO GETS TO RUN FOR THE DECIDE WHO GETS TO RUN FOR THE TOP POLITICAL OFFICE IN HONG TOP POLITICAL OFFICE IN HONG KONG. KONG. THAT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE CAUSE. THAT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE CAUSE. BUT THERE ARE OTHER TENSIONS BUT THERE ARE OTHER TENSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SIMMERING BELOW THAT HAVE BEEN SIMMERING BELOW THE SURFACE. THE SURFACE. ESSENTIALLY ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE IN HONG KONG BELIEVE OR LOSING IN HONG KONG BELIEVE OR LOSING CONFIDENCE THEIR LOCAL OFFICIALS CONFIDENCE THEIR LOCAL OFFICIALS REPRESENT THEM OR WHETHER REPRESENT THEM OR WHETHER INCREASINGLY DECISIONS ARE BEING INCREASINGLY DECISIONS ARE BEING REFERRED TO BEIJING. REFERRED TO BEIJING. AND, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO, AND, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO, THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WERE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING AND THE TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING AND THE ISSUES THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING OVER WERE PRETTY PROTESTING OVER WERE PRETTY NARROWLY DEFINED. NARROWLY DEFINED. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTH WE'VE SEEN IT BECOME A BROADER WE'VE SEEN IT BECOME A BROADER EFFORT. EFFORT. I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OF ALL SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OF ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS COMING OUT DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS COMING OUT ON TO THE STREETS NOW. ON TO THE STREETS NOW. >> HOW DOES IMPACT AN ON US? >> HOW DOES IMPACT AN ON US? WHY SHOULD WE CARE? WHY SHOULD WE CARE? >> WELL, LOOK, I THINK IF WE'RE >> WELL, LOOK, I THINK IF WE'RE SEEING REGRESSIONS OF DEMOCRACY SEEING REGRESSIONS OF DEMOCRACY AROUND THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REAL CONCERN. THAT'S A REAL CONCERN. YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATIONS WHEN YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATIONS WHEN HONG KONG RETURNED TO CHINESE HONG KONG RETURNED TO CHINESE CONTROL WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE CONTROL WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE POLITICAL SPACE FOR HONG MORE POLITICAL SPACE FOR HONG KONG AND HOPEFULLY SOME PROGRESS KONG AND HOPEFULLY SOME PROGRESS FOR DEMOCRACY INSIDE CHINA, FOR DEMOCRACY INSIDE CHINA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR STEP WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR STEP FORWARD FOR HUMANITY, WE THINK. FORWARD FOR HUMANITY, WE THINK. IT'S A REAL CONCERN THAT HONG IT'S A REAL CONCERN THAT HONG KONG'S POLITICS ARE STARTING TO KONG'S POLITICS ARE STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THE LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THE MAINLAND'S. MAINLAND'S. >> AND SOPHIA, HOW DO YOU SEE IT >> AND SOPHIA, HOW DO YOU SEE IT ENDING? ENDING? ? ? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHINESE >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GREAT AT GOVERNMENT IS NOT GREAT AT BACKING DOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT BACKING DOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS DONE SO IN THE PAST WITH HAS DONE SO IN THE PAST WITH HONG KONG ISSUES AND DEBATES HONG KONG ISSUES AND DEBATES AROUND OTHER PROBLEMATIC PIECES AROUND OTHER PROBLEMATIC PIECES OF LEGISLATION. OF LEGISLATION. THEY CERTAINLY WON'T ADMIT IT THEY CERTAINLY WON'T ADMIT IT PUBLICLY. PUBLICLY. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT THING OR WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO THING OR WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO SEE, FIRST OF ALL, BEING SEE, FIRST OF ALL, BEING PEOPLING APEOPLE PEOPLING APEOPLE ING A ALLOWED TO PROTEST ING A ALLOWED TO PROTEST PEACEFULLY WITHOUT GETTING TEAR PEACEFULLY WITHOUT GETTING TEAR GASSED BUT BEIJING BACKING DOWN GASSED BUT BEIJING BACKING DOWN ON THE RESTRICTIONS ABOUT WHO ON THE RESTRICTIONS ABOUT WHO GETS TO BE A PART OF POLITICS IN GETS TO BE A PART OF POLITICS IN HONG KONG. HONG KONG. >> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS A IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS A CLEAR SOLUTION IN THE NEAR CLEAR SOLUTION IN THE NEAR FUTURE. FUTURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >>> THE UNREST IN HONG KONG IS >>> THE UNREST IN HONG KONG IS AFFECTING THE GLOBAL MARKET. AFFECTING THE GLOBAL MARKET. THAT'S MY QUESTION WHY DO WE THAT'S MY QUESTION WHY DO WE CARE? CARE? THE U.S. STOCKS OPENED LOWER THE U.S. STOCKS OPENED LOWER THIS MORNING. THIS MORNING. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE DEVELOPING STORY OUT OF HONG DEVELOPING STORY OUT OF HONG KONG AND BRING YOU
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