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I'm James A. Janisse, and am I having deja vu, or am I about to talk about Carrie?
Oh, it's just another remake, this one from 2013. Yes, we've made it to the final Carrie,
after a TV remake and a sequel that occasionally felt like a remake. Here we have another remake,
set in the 2010s, ooooh, featuring more talented actors in all the main roles. The mainest role,
Carietta White, is played by Chloe Grace Moretz, and while Moretz is obviously a talented
actor, it's hard for me to buy into her as Carrie White. Yeah, I know, that's not
a unique criticism, but it's how I really feel. She doesn't have the offputting fragility
of Sissy Spacek or the acerbic weirdness of Angela Bettis, she just seems like a normal
girl acting like an outcast - y'know, the stereotypical "nerdy girl" in rom coms who takes off her
glasses and is all of a sudden beautiful.
Aside from that casting, I'm also annoyed that this iteration of Carrie doesn't try
to do anything new - despite what director Kimberly Peirce, of Boys Don't Cry fame, says here.
"There was just a chance to do it differently."
The 2002 TV movie, for all its faults, incorporated
that after-the-fact framing device and a bunch of scenes from the novel that weren't in the
original movie. But 2013 Carrie mostly just takes everything from the de Palma film and
re-does it all with new actors and smart phones. It never experiments with the material enough
to justify existing, so to me, it feels like an entirely unnecessary remake that doesn't
offer any reason for me to watch it over the original.
Except MAYBE the fact that some of its kills are a bit more graphic. So, might as
well show you those, right?
The movie begins at the White House. Well, this blue house. Not like the WHITE hou- you know
what I mean. It's a house of wet bibles and painful pregnancies - so painful that
Margaret White thinks it's cancer! But unless this is June or July, it's not a cancer at
all - it's just a wittle babyyy. Dammit Margaret, no scissors around the wittle baby. Especially
not the FACE, come on! And it's probably meant to be at least a little ambiguous,
but I don't THINK baby Carrie stopped those scissors with her mind. I think Margaret had
a last minute change of heart - and good thing she did, cause now that baby can grow up to
be a TITLE CARDDDD.
She actually grows up to be Chloe Grace-Moretz, this movie's Carrie White, who's scorned and
/or ignored by the popular kids in school like Chris Hargensen, Sue Snell and Tommy Ross.
The gym class volleyball game becomes a water sport this time around, but that doesn't
improve Carrie's skills at all - nor, of course, her social standing.
"You eat shit!"
The infamous locker room scene is not as skintastic as de Palma's, which makes sense given that
Moretz was an actual teenager here.
"I am a 15 year old girl."
Yeah, way younger in the role than Sissy Spacek, who was 24, and Angela Bettis, who was 29.
Carrie White finds some red on her soap - and her hands - and that freaks her out something
special. But the other kids in the locker room only respond by throwing tampons at her
and recording their bullying on their phones
"PLUG IT UP! PLUG IT UP!"
Sounds like some interference is needed by Coach Desjardin, played here by Judy Greer,
Kill Count alumnus thanks to Jurassic World and Halloween 2018. With one vintage slap
to the face, she calms the situation down - just not enough to avoid an overhead light
poppin off. They go to the principal's office, where Desjardin tries to comfort Carrie,
but the girl is still in a glass-shattering mood. Wait was that glass?
*glass smashing noises*)
Yeah that sounded like glass. Who has a glass water tank? That'd be so heavy!
Margaret comes to pick Carrie up from school, pausing only to cast scorn upon the horny
teenagers around her - namely, Chris Hargensen and her boyfriend Billy Nolan, whose actor
Alex Russell gives us the most threatening variation of the character. The Whites get
home and Margaret goes inside first so Carrie can be alone in the car when that bike kid comes around.
"Crazy Carrie, Crazy Carrie! *pig noise*
Wouldn't be Carrie without a doucher on a bike! Or off a bike, I guess.
In this remake, Margaret is played by Julianne Moore, previously on the kill Count in The
Lost World: Jurassic Park. Moore's Margaret is a highlight of the film, mostly because
she's such a different depiction than Piper Laurie's over-the-top fundamentalist. This
Margaret White has issues that lead to self-harm, but her relationship towards Carrie feels
less rooted in hatred.
"It's not our of being abusive, it's not out of being hateful, they love each other."
It's a different, manipulative take on the character, but one that still sees her blame Carrie's
period on her having sinned.
"I'm not Eve, Mama. I didn't sin."
Listen, Carrie, the only book
learning we do here is BIBLE learning! Get it through your head!
When Carrie continues to talk back, she earns a complimentary ticket to the praying closet,
to which she says Let Me Out instead of In
"GOD YOU SUCK!"
Carrietta White!
We do NOT digitally crack open doors in this house. Is that what bleeding bod Jesus have wantedwould
I didn't think so.
That night, Sue Snell is feeling real bad about how she treated Carrie. She tells her
boyfriend Tommy Ross about it and they have a conversation from the book where he tells
her about a time when he, too, was a dick too far. Good material for the character,
especially as delivered by a 19 year old Ansel Elgort in his first ever film role.
With that one scene, Sue and Tommy have established that they're good kids - unlike Chris and
Billy, and Chris's best friend Tina Blake, who go on the old YouTubes and upload their
video of Carrie getting bullied.
"Favorite Movie? Bloodsport."
Wait, what?
"Favorite drink? Bloody Mary."
What the- YouTube's not a dating app. Those aren't fields you have to fill out!
At school, Miss Desjardin lines up the girls in gym class and tells them what she thinks of their recent actions
"You all did a shitty thing yesterday."
She tells them they have a choice between physical detention with her
or a disinvitation to prom, but Chris Hargensen's
not a fan of lateral exercises, so she tells Desjardin to fuck off. Chris is unable to
rally the troops to her side, leaving her as the only one suspended - even though she doesn't understand why.
"We didn't do anything wrong!"
Yep, nothing wrong with this, ya dummy.
Carrie gets upset by her every-day bullying so she goes into a bathroom and cracks apart
a mirror with her mind. Ohhhh and she makes mirror shard soup in the sink, too! Neat!
Intrigued by this capability, she researches miracles and telekinesis so that later on,
in her room, she can practice her newfound talent. Huh, I guess all she needed was an
extended hand and a silly face, and she was ready to be an X-Man! X-Woman? Mutant. Wow,
Carrie, you've already got Luke post-Dagobah skills. This was one scene where Peirce briefly
experimented with practical effects, putting the books on strings and using fishing poles
to make them float. She didn't like the way it looked though so they went with visual effects instead.
In class, Carrie is picked on by a teacher until Tommy comes to her defense
"Asshole."
"Excuse me Mr. Ross, did you say something?"
"I said 'Awesome.'"
That act of chivalry gains Carrie's attention and gets the gears turning
in Sue's old Snell Shell. Meanwhile, Chris Hargensen has her lawyer dad meet with Principal Morton.
He's played by Hart Bochner, probably based off his performance as a slimey yuppie
in Die Hard, but it's worth noting that he, too, is a Kill Count graduate, having played
the head prankster in Terror Train. Mr. Hargensen tries to get Coach Desjardin fired, but he's
unable to do that - or get Chris her prom privileges restored - because there's hard
evidence of Chris's awfulness in the form of that video on YouTube. Idiot kids.
Chris complains to her friends, and when Sue stands up for Carrie, Chris questions her sincerity,
saying she's only being nice so she can still go to Prom.
To prove Chris wrong and comfort her guilty conscience, Sue comes up with a plan and Snells
it out to Tommy.
"I want you to take Carrie White to Prom."
Even though he'd rather
go with Sue, Tommy can tell how much this would mean to her, so he cool guy walks his
way down the hallway, highfiving peers and faculty alike, until he gets to Carrie's lonely
lunch table and graces her with his cool guy presence.
He asks her to prom, a request she can't even understand.
"...What?"
"The Prom."
...and her skepticism
leads her to flee - she's not lookin to be the butt of another joke. She tells Desjardin
about Tommy's proposal, leading to some great multifaceted face acting from Judy Greer,
"Wow... Tommy Ross?"
and the gym teacher encourages optimism in the girl - after all, with some
make up and posture adjustment, Carrie could make a fine date for the T-Man. Just to be
sure, though, Desjardin warns Tommy and Sue that they'd better not be setting up Carrie
to get pranked - or there'll be Snell to pay. Gotta love Elgort as a well-meaning but kinda
dense Tommy Ross.
"Famous athlete's, like Tim Tebow? He takes kids to Prom all the time and everyone loves him for it."
Aside from the lead role, this movie's shortcomings are
no fault of its stars.
To make sure Sue's satisfied, Tommy goes to Carrie's house and secures her as a date by
saying the poem she read in class was cool. Carrie tells her mom about her prom plans
later, saying she's gonna go cause she doesn't want to be the weird kid anymore.
"I have to try and be a whole person. Before it's too late."
Mama White don't trust Tommy's intentions though,
and tells Carrie she needs to get back in the closet. But Carrie's out and proud now,
brazenly showing off her superhero powers in a way that Grace-Moretz compared to "conducting
a symphony." I'm not a huge fan of how it looks, but at least they didn't go with the
version of this scene where Carrie moves her mom around like she's playing a fuckin' crane game.
Billy Nolan and his bros take Chris out to a pig farm so they can collect a bunch of
blood to epically prank Carrie White. His pal Jackie Talbot's unable to do the deed,
so Billy takes over and starts things off with a kiss that allegedly got actor Alex
Russell sick because there were pig droppings present on the sledgehammer. I couldn't
verify that info but I had to mention it anyway. Chris finishes the job with a psychopathic
swine stab, cause Portia Doubleday's Chris Hargensen is kind of cartoonishly evil sometimes.
They take that pig's blood into the school and string it up using a pulley system, all
while an unsuspecting Carrie White works on her dress with no risk of sore calves. Y'know
even with Margaret praying in the background, I'd much rather be Carrie, getting ready for
the dance at home, than stuck in this cliche cool kid montage backed by Vampire Weekend.
Nothing against Vampire Weekend, I actually like them quite a bit, but I just can't stand
manufactured coolness like this. The screenplay for this remake was co-written by two dudes.
First, the original film's screenwriter, Lawrence Cohen, which explains why it's so similar
to the de Palma film. And secondly, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa - which explains why it feels
so CW a lot of the time, seeing as Aguirre-Sacasa is the man who brought us Riverdale and the
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
Margaret tries to manipulate Carrie into staying home, but ain't no one bout to turn down a
free limo ride, so Carrietta heads downstairs to leave. When Mags tries to stop her some
more, Carrie uses her powers to silence her mum and slide her on backwards into the prayer
closet. "And stay in there!" She tells her mom she loves her - just not enough to let
her leave - then steps out onto the porch to get baby driven to prom.
They get to the school, and after a last minute wardrobe adjustment, head inside the gym,
where The Naked and Famous is waiting to score their entrance. Desjardin fuckin LOVES INDIETRONICA.
Carrie has a friendly chat with the gym teacher and a romantic slow dance with Tommy
so all in all you could call this prom a twirly whirly success. Carrie, you're a Hit, Girl!
If only we could roll credits now.
But we can't, so we've gotta watch things fall apart - at home, Margaret White bloodilly
claws her way out of the closet, and at school, Tina Blake lets Chris and Billy in so they
can climb into the rafters and get ready to pull dat rope. The voting for prom royalty
begins and Tommy convinces Carrie that they should vote for themselves.
"To the Devil with false modesty."
"To the Devil..."
To Satan!
The votes are tallied up while Passion Pit plays - god dammit, you made me buy
this soundtrack, too! - and, knowing the eventual results, Chris sends Sue an ominous
text, which sends the Snell speeding towards the high school. She gets there just in time
to hear Tommy and Carrie announced Prom King and Queen, and as they step up onto the stage,
Sue notices the bucket hanging over their heads - like so many swords of Damacles.
Sue tries to Snell out that something's going on, but she's tossed out of the gym by Desjardin,
right as Billy and Chris finally get their faulty pulley system going. The bucket of
blood empties out all over Carrie, covering her so nice they have to show us thrice. And
no wonder they wanted to replay it a bunch in the film - they spent a TON of time testing
about 50 different ways to get the perfect blood dump.
"It was like, 5 feet above her, 3 feet above her. It was like thick blood, it was thin blood.
A pretty striking contrast to de Palma, by the way, who just had Jack
Fisk pour out a bucket of blood from a ladder.
That was back when studios were a lot more
hands-off and directors could get away with just winging stuff like that.
The mean girls then project the locker room incident onto the walls, bringing that cell
phone video back, but only in a superfluous way. This is actually an example of why
this movie misses the mark for me. They had an opportunity to update the story and
explore the contemporary issue of cyberbullying, but it's only used as window dressing - they
never do anything interesting with it. Like, they add it to the movie, but it doesn't add
anything TO the movie, you know?
They had other opportunities to be different, too
- for instance, they could've explored the class divide between Carrie and her peers,
which is a topic Kimberly Peirce dealt with in Boys Don't Cry, but it's only barely hinted
at in this movie. I dunno man, I just like to see things that are different, not
clones with new technology.
With the whole gym laughing at Carrie, just like Margaret warned of, Chris and Billy get
the hell out of there, leaving their pulley system behind which falls apart and sends
the bucket down into Tommy's head. As we all know by now, this kills the poor boy dead,
but I will say that this version is the most convincingly fatal of them all.
Desjardin goes to help only to get force pushed away, and after Carrie realizes that Tommy's
no longer among the living, it's time for her to get wild and wacky with her powers.
"Are you seeing this?"
Yeah, I'm seeing it! Carrie looks like an alien Clown who just
got stabbed in the head. And her pupils have a heartbeat! That's weird.
Carrie delivers a psyionic blast that knocks everyone down in an effect that combined 6
different shots of various practical and digital things being blown around. Cool use of tech,
but it still looks kinda cartoony to me. It does give us another kill, though, when
student Heather Shyres is sent headfirst into a glass window.
And yes, her name was
Heather Shyres here, not Helen Shyres like the character from the book and other two
movies. More modern name, I guess?
Carrie locks everyone inside the gym and stops an
attempted escape via bleachers while crushing Jackie Talbot to death within them.
She then kills nerdy prom videographer Freddy Holt by sending a table into his face.
Fred Holt!
Carrie revels in her powers and activates the fire sprinklers, before turning her attention
to mean girl twins Nikki and Lizzy Watson. She knocks them to the ground and they get
trampled to death by their peers, dying on the floor right beside each other. Aw, that's
almost nice. Carrie knocks down the lights next and triggers a fire. We see another
random dude dead on the gym floor as people run around, and then Carrie goes after
Tina Blake with a flaming decoration. Though she misses with her initial attack, she uses
electrical cables as whips to send Chris's bestie backwards into the flames, giving
us an awesome fire stunt where her she looks like a flaming windmill! I love it.
Carrie lifts Desjardin up by her throat, but turns out it was to save her from the wet
electric floor she's making right thyeah. Let's see, I can count 10 figures zip zap
zoppin around in this mess, so that's how many I'll put on the count. 8 dudes and 2
ladies, from what I can tell. Carrie doesn't risk electrocuting herself, though, cause
she just kinda flies right on over it! Man, but why she gotta have such a weird look on
her face?! Close your mouth up, Care Bear!
At this point, the school is one big flaming pile of fucked, but that's not gonna stop
Carrie from going after who she sees were the architects of her humiliation. Chris and
Billy are planning on leaving town and never coming back, but Carrie's waiting with her
weird face and a heavy foot to crack open the ground and stop their escape.
Their car is nearly swallowed up into the earth but instead they turn around and head
straight towards Carrietta
"Kill her Billy, kill her!"
"Shut up, I got this!"
Carrie says Billy DON'T got this, though,
and her superpowers kill Billy Nolan with a slowmotion head slam against
the steering wheel. Sorry, Chris, that boy dead. But hey, at least he won't have to pay
those 2013 gas prices anymore.
It doesn't take long for Carrie to dispatch of Chris as well, after she tries in vain
to run the girl over once more. Carrie opens her mouth and raises that car up, then lets
Chris drive it straight into the gas station for a Mortal Kombat X-Ray kill, holy shit!
The accident leaves Chris's face stuck in the windshield, and she apparently dies right
there. But, uh, just in case? Might as well double tap her with an explosion, right, Carrie?
Cool.
Sue Snell and Desjardin are two of the many survivors we see outside the school - in fact
there are so many, I have to assume that the only people who died are the ones I saw
and counted. No triple digit casualty lists here! Carrie walks back home and is all like
Heeeeere's Carrie - only to find that her mama's no longer where she left her.
Upstairs she bathes, washing off all the pig's blood, and with Tubby Time complete, she finds
and hugs her mom, apologizing for not listening to her about the cruelty of children.
But it's too late for Margaret to reconcile with the sinful fruit of her loins, so she tricks
Carrie into joining her for a prayer and then STABS HER RIGHT IN THE BACK, AW SHIT!
The two of them split apart like they're opposite charges of a magnet and even though Margaret's
heaven-bent on killing this supposed spawn of Satan, Carrie's able to stop the knife
from crashing into her face - this time, DEFINITELY using her powers. She floats her mom upward
and gets all Matrixy to surround her with utensils, and with one last apology, she
sends them all into Margaret White's body. The overzealous mother is pinned against the
prayer closet with her arms outstretched like JC, and she dies quickly and quietly, with
none of Piper Laurie's moans of ecstasy.
*GASP*
Well, I mean, she does give one last gasp.
But then she dies for real. So, you know. Still dead.
Carrie's mourning is interrupted by Sue Snell, who shows up offering her help. But Carrie's
not into the idea.
"Don't hurt me Carrie."
"Why not? I've been hurt my whole life."
Carrie lets Sue go and expresses regret for killing her mother, which is maybe why her emotions are
currently bringing a rock storm down onto and through the house.
Sue tries to help one more time, but Carrie only stretches out her hand and gives a prognosis
"It's a girl!"
"What?!"
"You don't know?"
Ohhhh Thaaatt's why Sue Snell threw up in the school bathroom
in an earlier scene. Why is this random pregnancy addition necessary? It's not,
really, but it gives Carrie a Predator 2-esque reason to save Sue as she stays with her mom's
dead body and accepts her fate - a fate that involves getting crushed by raining rocks
and sucked into the ground inside her house.
Sue Snell feels on her snelly- er, her belly, and, some time later, testifies in front of
the White Commission, a major framing device of the book. The movie ends with Sue laying
a flower at the vandalized gravestone of Carrie White while a kick-ass song from Cults plays.
How many people died in our third adaptation of Carrie? Let's find out and
get to the numbers.
Wait, where'd that bucket g-
22 people died in the 2013 Carrie, which is quite a small number for a Carrie film. The victims
consisted of 13 men and 9 women, giving us this tasty prom pie, and with a runtime of
100 minutes, that left us with a Kill on average every 4.55 minutes.
I'll give the Golden Chainsaw for Coolest Kill to Chris Hargensen, whose face got trapped
in a windshield before she was incinerated in a car explosion. The initial slow-motion
face slam was all done with CG, and I think it looks pretty good, and then that later shot used
practical effects for her face sticking out of the windshield. Great! Dull Machete for lamest
kill, well, we can't break tradition here, folks. It goes to Tommy Ross. You'll always
have my vote, Tommy.
And that's it. The Carrie remake came out in 2013 and with prom season over and summer
officially here, I think it's time we thought about what we did LAST summer. We'll know
all about it next week, but until then I'm James A. Janisse. This has been the Kill Count.
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