Like, he didn't need much space.

And so with him, I had to play him extra tight.

You know what I mean?

There wasn't, that era, there wasn't no sweep through.

Guys wasn't, you know what I mean, trying to draw fouls.

It was about a bucket.

Go get a bucket.

And Melo, I just knew, body to body, stay tight as possible.

I had Roy, you know, guarding me behind me.

So it was just about like, I knew my, my, my, my, the way my feet, I could move my feet so quick that I wasn't worried about getting blown by.

And so it was always just staying tight with Melo, contest everything.

He was so good at, you know, creating contact and being physical that like, you know, I was just going to be in for a long game, but the plan was just stay tight as possible on Melo.

One thing that I remember about Melo was just that jab step with both feet too.

Not only could he jab step going right, but he had the same jab going left.

What was that like?

Oh, it was crazy.

That's what I'm saying.

You couldn't give him like, he could get his shot off like this.

And I added that to my game, that quick jab and he'll put that bounce and then step back.

You could not guard it.

It was an unguardable.

So that's why you could never give him space because you're going to play on your heels.

When you're guarding Melo, you're, he was the fastest first step I've ever seen for a guy that size, he had the quickest first step.

So you had to play tight defense on Melo.

You know what I mean?

Like you had to try to force him to play with his back to you just so, because, you know, at that point you're looking for a second move.

If you let him face you up, oh, it's over.

It's over.

You couldn't allow Melo to face you up.

Yeah.

I always think about those videos of like Kobe and Melo going at it where they're swimming and they're trying to get position, but other than Melo, who would you say was your toughest matchup?

Because you take pride in defense.

Who's the most difficult player that you've ever had to guard?

A hundred percent Melo.

Oh, just Melo all well.

A hundred percent Melo, bro.

Melo was in, in New York.

I actually got my, like when the first time guarding Melo was when he was in Denver and I was in Indy.

Funny story.

Uh, Danny was ahead of me, right?

So Danny was originally supposed to play.

We get a call that Danny slips in his bathtub.

What?

Sprains his ankle.

And so he's out the game.

He's out for the game.

So like now I got to guard him and I'm like.

But he slipped in the shower.

He slipped in the shower.

I'm still on that right now.

He slipped and fell in the shower.

Who don't know how to shower and you get off slip and you missed the game?

Bathtub or shower?

Shower.

He slipped in the shower.

Oh, that, that, he didn't want to play that night.

He didn't.

And that was the story.

He didn't want to play.

Danny is my guy.

Love Danny to death.

But that was the story.

Like, like guys will say like, oh, you got mellitis today, huh?

He didn't want to play.

Danny was not trying to play that night.

Right.

So we get the call, Danny falls.

And it was like a game where I'm not expecting to play.

I'm not playing at this point.

Like I'm playing very spot minutes.

Like, so my preparation going into the game, I'm like playing video games, not locked in.

Like, and I get the call, like literally like 30 minutes to an hour before my bus time.

Like, yo, Danny's out tonight.

You're going to start.

You got mellow.

I'm like.

Why you didn't slip out the shower?

Wait, what?

What shower?

What you do?

I should have called Danny.

What you do?

How you slip?

So I got mellow, bro.

Mellow went for 40.

First time playing him.

He hit me with everything. 40, three ball, deep three ball, mid range, post game.

So I'm like, yo, this dude is serious.

So now, and I'm happy for that moment because fast forward, that was in my mind.

Like, this dude busted my ass.

Like I got get back.

So we play him in the playoffs.

And he was my toughest.

He was by far the toughest from an individual standpoint, just because like how physical he played.

And after games, literally, bro, I would have ice bag here, ice bag here, like ice bag on my knees, sitting in a cold tub, like just how sore I was, like how tired I was, like, cause he'll shoot, miss, go get it, shoot again, miss, go get like, he had that quick jump, he'll move you out the way, push your ass out the way, bully game.

Mellow was, Mellow was a problem.

Mellow was, he was probably the toughest I had to match up with.

Jackie, it's time to check in on our picks.

Come on, man.

We had a little LA battle last night.

You know that.

And my Clippers beat your Lakers, but how'd you do with your entries?

Come on, boy.

You know, I'm always up.

All I do is win, win, win, win, win no matter what.

But anyway, they don't know what I'm talking about.

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Look, I placed a little entry on LeBron to score more than his projected points.

Okay.

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