Same thing with your grandmother and grandfather, my parents, they couldn't reach me, the cell phones were really sporadic, every once in a while, like, you wouldn't get anything, and then all of a sudden a call would come through, so I think I reached around 8 o'clock at night, I think we had some form of service, and then we were told, you know, I spoke to your mother, said, yeah, I'm okay, you know, I'm glad that you're okay, one of the, of my whole life, one of the moments I'll never forget, and there's not a day that goes by that I look at the skyline because of where I live, I have to see it every day, that you don't think about the people that perished in that, and having known, my count was about 12 people that perished, but every one of them was just a tragic loss, and, uh...