And I'm Beth.

Can I ask you something, Beth? Beth? Hello, Beth. Are you listening?

Oh, sorry, Neil. I was checking my Instagram and Facebook and just sending this email.

Done. OK, what did you want?

Well, I wanted to ask if you're getting addicted to your smartphone, but clearly the answer is yes.

Actually, Neil, I am worried about my smartphone use. And it's not just me. Concerns are growing about the negative effect smartphones are having on adults and even more on children.

Studies show that girls who spend more time on social media are more likely to be anxious or depressed. And smartphones have also been linked to delayed brain development and poor sleep.

Even so, around 60% of British 8 to 11-year-olds have a smartphone. So in this programme, we'll be asking, are kids better off without a phone? And of course, we'll be learning some useful new vocabulary too.

But first, put your phone away, Beth, because I have a question for you. The US has one of the highest levels of smartphone use, but according to a recent survey, how long does the average American 11 to 14-year-old spend looking at a screen every day? Is it… a – 5 hours, b – 7 hours, or c – 9 hours?

I'll guess American teens spend 5 hours a day on screens.

OK, Beth, I'll reveal the answer later in the programme. BBC journalist Myra Anubi has a 9-year-old daughter who desperately wants her own phone. But Myra isn't convinced.

So she explained to BBC World Service programme, People Fixing the World.

I'm worried about how much time she'll spend on her own device and what she might even see there. I mean, she's only 9 at the end of the day. But at the same time,

I don't want her to feel left out because some of her friends already have smartphones and there's a chance that she'll miss out on playdates or kids' trends, cat videos or online chats with her besties. So I'm torn between wanting her to be in our world and also letting her be in her own mini-world with her friends.

Myra is worried about her daughter and says at the end of the day she's only 9. Myra uses the phrase at the end of the day to mean after everything is considered.

Myra's daughter wants to chat with her besties, her best friends. But Myra worries she'll get hooked on social media, see harmful content or spend too long online. Myra is torn between letting her daughter get a phone and not. If you're torn between two things, you can't decide between two possibilities, leaving you feeling anxious.

Parents like Myra are having to make an impossible choice – either give their children potentially harmful devices or risk alienating them from their friends who do have smartphones.

In February 2024, mums Daisy Greenwell and Claire Furniho started a WhatsApp group encouraging parents to not give their child a smartphone until the age of 14, with no social media access until 16. Soon the phone-free group of families grew into a movement – Smartphone

Free Childhood. Here mum Daisy Greenwell explains more to BBC World Service's People Fixing the World…

Everyone I spoke to said, yes, it's a nightmare getting your child a phone, but you've got no choice, you have to, because everyone else is doing it, you can't leave them on their own. So Claire and I decided to start a WhatsApp group to support each other and I posted about it on social media and it went viral. The group was full, so we encouraged people, start one in your region, in your county, and they sprung up all over the country, right in front of our eyes. It was amazing. And now there's over 100,000 people in the UK who are in our community.

At the start, Daisy says it was a nightmare – a very unpleasant situation. Everyone else's kids had a phone and Daisy didn't want her children to feel left out. But soon more families got involved and the group went viral. It spread quickly and widely on the internet and social media.

Within months, new groups started up across Britain, right in front of Daisy's eyes.

If you say something happens right in front of your eyes, you're emphasising that something surprising or unusual happened directly before you.

The Smartphone Free Childhood campaign has grown rapidly in schools and there are now groups in 18 countries around the world, offering kids a circle of friends to play and chat with in the old-fashioned way – face-to-face. OK, why don't you reveal the answer to your question, Neil?

Yes, I asked how long the average American teenager spends looking at a screen and you guessed five hours a day, which was the wrong answer, I'm afraid, Beth. It's actually even longer – around nine hours a day spent on screens.

OK, let's recap the vocabulary we've learned in this programme, starting with the phrase – at the end of the day – meaning after all the relevant facts have been considered.

Your bestie is slang for your best friend.

Someone who's torn between two things finds it difficult to choose between them, making them feel anxious.

A nightmare is a very unpleasant experience or event.

If a video or story goes viral, it spreads quickly on the internet through social media and email.

And finally, if you say something happened right in front of your eyes, you're emphasising that something surprising or unusual happened directly before you.

Once again, our six minutes are up. Goodbye for now!

Bye.