it felt very similar to like when I am at dinner with a bunch of my friends and I will always make the point that you know well this is actually an experience that we go through every single day 100% of the time and Paul being one of my very dear friends I've had conversations like that with him before and he completely gets that and completely understands that and but I think the fact that there was a moment like that that happened on a show like Brian Norton which is something that the entire nation tunes in to watch and even overseas it's something that people tune into it seems to have had an accessibility which seems to have really gained traction which I think is amazing you know it's opening a conversation and again hopefully it's allowing more and more women to just be like well yeah actually let's talk about our experience