You've given us a green light to call you Rosie.

你給我們開了綠燈，讓我們叫你羅西。

Yes, you may.

可以。

Very generous.

非常慷慨。

Have you listened to the album?

您聽過這張專輯嗎？

Come on.

來吧

Then you may.

那麼你可以

Thank you for flying in.

謝謝你飛過來。

Thank you for doing this.

感謝你們這樣做。

I know it's hectic right now.

我知道現在很忙。

You've got a lot going on.

你有很多事情要做。

You asked for this, but it doesn't change the fact that you've still got a lot going on and you've made time for us.

這是你自找的，但這並不能改變一個事實，那就是你還有很多事情要做，你已經為我們騰出了時間。

So we appreciate it.

我們對此表示感謝。

Thank you so much.

非常感謝。

Oh my gosh.

我的天啊

No, I'm super grateful that you guys have invited me to talk about my album and I'm like pinching myself.

不，我非常感謝你們邀請我談談我的專輯，我都快掐死自己了。

I feel like this is a dream.

我覺得這就像一場夢。

Yeah, I mean, I think that's what happens when you put a lot of your heart and soul into something and then all of a sudden it arrives.

是的，我的意思是，我認為這就是當你對某件事情投入了大量心血，然後它突然到來時發生的事情。

And we all assume it arrives for us, but it also arrives for you because in a way, I guess it doesn't feel real until people listen to it in some respects.

我們都認為它是為我們而生的，但它也是為你而生的，因為在某種程度上，我想只有當人們聆聽它時，才會覺得它是真實的。

No, literally when I walked in, you guys were playing the song.

不，當我走進來時，你們正在演奏這首歌。

I've never had somebody play it for me.

我從來沒有讓別人為我演奏過。

I would always play it for somebody.

我總是為別人演奏。

I don't think I noticed how much I've been waiting for this moment until I hear you guys play it.

直到聽到你們的演奏，我才發現自己有多期待這一刻。

And in New York, I had my first promotion week.

在紐約，我度過了我的第一個晉升周。

And can I tell you the craziest story?

我能告訴你一個最瘋狂的故事嗎？

Tell me all the crazy stories.

告訴我所有瘋狂的故事

It was just so funny because I was doing the first interview and it was like one of those pre-interviews.

這太有趣了，因為我第一次接受採訪，就像那些預採訪一樣。

So I guess production asks for like a pre-interview.

所以我猜製作方會要求進行預面試。

Oh, like tell us some stories you're going to tell us before we do the thing.

哦，比如在我們做那件事之前，告訴我們一些你要講的故事。

Yes.

是的。

Tell us the stories.

給我們講講這些故事。

Yes.

是的。

And so that's what we're doing.

這就是我們正在做的。

That was the first thing I did as soon as I landed in New York.

這是我一到紐約就做的第一件事。

And I woke up and I was like, okay, first thing.

一覺醒來，我就想，好吧，第一件事。

And then we get on the Zoom and then they're like, how do you feel about promoting the album and about your album coming out?

然後我們上了 Zoom，他們就會問，你對宣傳專輯和專輯發行有何感想？

And I was just like, um, and I ended up crying.

我就想，嗯，最後我哭了。

I was going to say, did you burst into tears?

我本來想說，你是不是哭了？

I ended up crying for the whole 30 minutes.

最後，我哭了整整 30 分鐘。

I was like, I was actually like, it's the most embarrassing thing I've ever experienced.

我當時就想，這是我經歷過的最尷尬的事情。

Oh, not because I'm not surprised.

哦，不是因為我不驚訝。

It's such a big question for someone who spent a year or two years making something.

對於一個花了一年或兩年時間製作東西的人來說，這是一個很大的問題。

It's such a simple observation, but it's like, I really wasn't ready for the simplest question.

這是個很簡單的問題，但我真的還沒準備好回答這個最簡單的問題。

Yeah.

是啊

No, that's when I noticed I was like, okay, I can give credit for myself because I think obviously it was not a smooth ride and it just showed how much, you know, time and effort and blood, sweat and tears I actually did put into it.

不，就在那時，我發現自己好像，好吧，我可以為自己點贊，因為我覺得這顯然不是一帆風順的，這恰恰說明了，你知道，我在其中投入了多少時間、精力、血汗和淚水。

And that was a moment where I allowed myself to acknowledge the fact that I am really proud that I'm at the point of promoting it.

那一刻，我允許自己承認這樣一個事實：我真的為自己能夠推廣它而感到自豪。

So it really means a lot to me, apparently.

顯然，這對我來說意義重大。

Internally, your voice is telling you it means a lot to you and we're experiencing that too.

從內心來說，你的聲音在告訴你，這對你意義重大，我們也在經歷著這一點。

I mean, it makes me think about like the observation that some artists have, which is when I make something, I'm going through it.

我的意思是，這讓我想到了一些藝術家的觀點，即我在創作的時候，我正在經歷它。

When I'm ready to release it, I'm through it.

當我準備好釋放它時，我就完成了它。

And then we sort of get to listen to it for the first time and we assume you're still going through it.

然後我們第一次聽到它，我們假設你還在經歷它。

Are you a different person today now the album is coming out than you were when you started making it?

這張專輯面世後，你和開始製作專輯時的你相比，有什麼不同嗎？

Oh, completely.

哦，完全正確。

I literally think this album is just like a little capsule.

我真的覺得這張專輯就像一個小膠囊。

It's like a little, like it's like when I listen to my songs, I remember every minute of it and I like went through everything.

這就像一個小，就像當我聽我的歌時，我記得它的每一分鐘，我就像經歷了一切。

And without this album, I think I would have carried a lot of the past version of myself through till today, because to be honest, like I'm not really I'm not doing it was like a therapy session.

如果沒有這張專輯，我想我會把很多過去的自己帶到今天，因為老實說，就像我不是真的在做治療一樣。

And I never so I've bottled it up into this thing called Rosie.

我從來沒有，所以我把它裝進了一個叫 "羅西 "的東西里。

And so I've walked out of every single studio with a story and walked out feeling like I left it in that song.

是以，我帶著一個故事走出每一間錄音室，走出去時感覺就像我把故事留在了那首歌裡。

There are some days where it's like, OK, I don't like that song and the emotion bounce back back into me.

有些時候，我會想，好吧，我不喜歡這首歌，情緒又會反彈回來。

And I felt like that didn't really get the story out.

我覺得這樣並沒有把故事講清楚。

So in that case, those songs actually didn't make it to the album.

是以，在這種情況下，這些歌曲實際上並沒有被收錄到專輯中。

But every single song that has made it to the album serves a purpose.

但專輯中的每一首歌都是有目的的。

Yeah.

是啊

Yeah.

是啊

Served a purpose in my life, actually, and literally.

實際上，它在我的生活中發揮了作用。

And there are days where I'm like, wow, I don't talk about that anymore.

有些時候，我會想，哇，我再也不談這個了。

Like ever since that session, I don't talk about it any until today.

就像自從那次會議之後，我就再也不提這件事了，直到今天。

We're going to go through song by song, taking her back through every single painful trauma.

我們將一首歌接一首歌地唱，帶她回顧每一次痛苦的創傷。

That's my job.

這是我的工作。

Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up.

女士們，先生們，繫好安全帶。

Here we go.

開始了

It's Rosie, the revised experience.

這是羅西，修訂後的體驗。

No, I'm just kidding.

不，我只是在開玩笑。

I mean, some things will definitely maybe come up in conversation because the music is very real.

我的意思是，有些事情肯定會在談話中出現，因為音樂是非常真實的。

And I said that to you when I met you before the cameras.

當我在攝影機前見到你時，我也是這麼說的。

I said in the performance of these songs, which I'm really attuned to, is how someone sounds when they're singing them.

我說過，在演唱這些歌曲時，我真正關注的是一個人演唱時的聲音。

There are times I feel like you've caught yourself by surprise with the emotion of performing that particular song.

有時候，我覺得你在演唱那首歌時的情緒會讓自己措手不及。

Do you remember those moments where you sang outside of what would be considered a conventional performance and it was like, oh, I'm emoting something I wasn't expecting?

你還記得那些你在常規表演之外演唱的時刻嗎？

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的

I think the more and more I was in the studio, I learned slowly.

我覺得我在錄音室裡待的時間越長，就學得越慢。

So at first it started with a lot of anxiety because there's this thing I say to myself, I was like, I always think confidence equals like, I can only think of a Korean word right now, which is talent.

所以一開始我很焦慮，因為我對自己說，我總是覺得自信等於，我現在只能想到一個韓語詞，那就是天賦。

I honestly think the more confidence I have, the more space I get to show talent.

老實說，我覺得自己越有自信，就越有施展才華的空間。

I don't think talent is such a, it's a bit of an interesting word because the more confidence somebody has, you can play around with it and stuff.

我不認為 "天賦 "是個有趣的詞，因為一個人越自信，你就越能玩轉它。

But at the very beginning, I didn't have much of it because I had so much anxiety in the studio and obviously was not comfortable in the studio yet about being vulnerable and showing my emotions.

但在最開始的時候，我並沒有太多的情緒，因為我在錄音室裡有太多的焦慮，而且很明顯，我在錄音室裡還不太習慣脆弱地表現自己的情緒。

The most fun part about this whole process of creating this album is that I think near the end of it, I kind of mastered that, you know, the pushing through the anxiety and you knew you could go there.

在創作這張專輯的整個過程中，最有趣的部分是，我覺得在接近尾聲的時候，我掌握了那種，你知道的，克服焦慮的方法，你知道你可以做到這一點。

I started creating things like and my producer, when I went back to Korea, I hadn't recorded with him for like over a year.

我開始創作一些東西，比如我的製作人，當我回到韓國時，我已經有一年多沒有和他一起錄音了。

He was shocked.

他很震驚。

He was like, Rosie, you're like, you really you're nailing this like instantly.

他說："羅西，你就像，你真的就像馬上就能駕馭它一樣。

You don't even take you take that like one to two takes and you're already there.

你甚至不需要拍一到兩遍，就已經完成了。

And like the tone is like you've kind of mastered this new texture and tone to your voice.

就像音調一樣，你已經掌握了這種新的聲音質感和音調。

And so I was like, really?

於是我想，真的嗎？

I felt really happy about it.

我為此感到非常高興。

But I had started to like have fun in the studio, like near the end, right now, even still, I'm supposed to wrap up the album.

但我已經開始喜歡在錄音室裡找樂子了，就像接近尾聲的時候，現在，即便如此，我也應該結束這張專輯了。

You want to keep going, huh?

你還想繼續嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

I literally kind of had to stop myself.

我真的有點忍不住了。

I added these like last two and I think one for the deluxe.

我加了這些，就像上兩個一樣，我想還有一個是豪華版的。

Somebody was like, let's just put that for the deluxe then because it's like we loved it so much.

有人說，那就把它放在豪華版吧，因為我們太喜歡它了。

And I was like, oh, my gosh, I think I know the two songs you're referring to.

我當時想，哦，天哪，我想我知道你說的那兩首歌。

And I really like both of them. Yeah.

我真的很喜歡他們兩個。 是啊

And I can tell, actually, that, you know, those two songs feel it's funny because it feels a bit different, right?

實際上，我能感覺到，你知道，這兩首歌感覺很有趣，因為感覺有點不同，對嗎？

It does in a weird way.

它確實以一種奇怪的方式存在。

Certainly the last song on the record, which is the uptempo one, the additional one, the uptempo, the deluxe.

當然，這張唱片的最後一首歌，也就是快節奏的那首歌、附加的那首歌、快節奏的那首歌、豪華版的那首歌。

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊，是啊。

It is just a sense of, I suppose, like you say, freedom in the way you're approaching it that I think is in the middle of the record when I can really feel and everyone will hear that you're going through something.

我想，就像你說的那樣，這只是一種自由的感覺，我認為在這張唱片的中間部分，我能真切地感受到，每個人都能聽出你正在經歷一些事情。

You capture it really well.

你捕捉得非常好。

It's nice to get to the end and feel like you got through.

能走到最後，感覺自己走完了，真好。

Yes.

是的。

No, I think that's like the best feeling.

不，我覺得那是最棒的感覺。

And that's when I was like, do I have to jump on the next one now because I want to capture these moments?

這時候我就想，我現在一定要跳上下一場嗎，因為我想捕捉這些瞬間？

And well, that's my question, actually, is when the last Blackpink tour came to its natural conclusion, did you feel any pressure from outside of yourself to make a solo album?

其實，這也是我想問的問題，上一次 Blackpink 巡演自然結束後，你是否感受到了來自外界的壓力，要求你製作一張個人專輯？

Was there even a reality where you wouldn't dive into the studio and make your proper full length debut?

你們有沒有想過不進入錄音室製作正式的首張全長專輯？

First, I felt pressured, to be honest.

首先，說實話，我感到了壓力。

Yeah.

是啊

We were kind of coming off of the year long tour and, you know, us as Blackpink, as mature as we are, we got together and decided, well, let's promise ourselves a good year to be inspired.

我們剛剛結束了長達一年的巡演，你知道，作為成熟的 Blackpink，我們聚在一起決定，好吧，讓我們向自己承諾，在這美好的一年裡激發靈感。

You know, we've worked so hard for the past eight years and we've done, I honestly believe we've done so well and I'm so proud.

你知道，過去八年我們一直在努力工作，我們做得很好，我真的相信我們做得很好，我很自豪。

But, you know, we all, you know, got together and just promised ourselves a good year to work on our solo stuff.

但是，你知道的，我們都聚在一起，向自己許諾有一年的時間好好創作個人作品。

And the first thing that happened was anxiety because, you know, I was privileged to have this one year in my hands to do whatever I wanted with it, but I wanted it to be the right decision and it had to feel right.

首先出現的是焦慮，因為我很榮幸能擁有這一年的時間，可以做任何我想做的事，但我希望這是一個正確的決定，必須讓我感覺是正確的。

And I was getting anxiety like from the get go.

我從一開始就很焦慮。

I think I had anxiety all through.

我想我一直都很焦慮。

Now I'm kind of excited, but and so, yeah, at the beginning it started like that.

現在我有點興奮，但是，是的，一開始就是這樣。

Self-imposed pressure though, a sense of like, what if I don't find it?

不過，這也是一種自我壓力，一種 "如果我找不到怎麼辦 "的感覺。

Yes.

是的。

And what if I don't believe in it?

如果我不相信呢？

And I don't feel it.

我卻感覺不到。

Yes.

是的。

That's the biggest fear I think I had.

這是我最大的恐懼。

I think doing it, like there were so many opportunities.

我覺得這樣做有很多機會。

I'm so grateful for that.

我對此非常感激。

But what if I don't believe in my thing?

但如果我不相信自己的事情呢？

And what if I'm in a place where I'm having to do things that I don't feel like it's me?

如果我在一個地方不得不做一些事情，而我又覺得這不是我該做的事情，那該怎麼辦？

Yeah, because everyone says it's good enough and you know it's not.

是啊，因為每個人都說已經夠好了，但你知道還不夠。

Yeah.

是啊

And I wanted to be truthful, right?

我想說實話，對吧？

And so, but I just went, okay, I'm just going to start it.

於是，我就想，好吧，我就開始吧。

Like I have not really ever been in like the building process of an album before.

就像我以前從未真正經歷過一張專輯的製作過程一樣。

But, you know, a start is everything, as they say.

但是，你知道，俗話說，萬事開頭難。

So let's start it.

那就開始吧。

Starting and ending.

開始和結束。

Starting and ending.

開始和結束。

Everything in the middle is a joy and you can do it in front of nobody if you really want to.

中間的一切都是快樂的，如果你真的願意，你可以在無人面前做。

But you've got to start it.

但你必須啟動它。

You've got to make a commitment to yourself and then you've got to be able to finish it.

你必須對自己做出承諾，然後才能完成它。

So I threw myself in and I remember telling my co-writers and producers, I was like, I am so anxious.

所以我全身心投入，我記得我告訴我的合作編劇和製片人，我當時想，我太焦慮了。

They're like, why are you so anxious?

他們會問，你為什麼這麼焦慮？

And they were, they have guided me through this process so much and I'm so grateful.

在這個過程中，他們給了我很多指導，我非常感激。

But I remember walking out of like the first few sessions being like, like, I'm actually surprised.

但我記得，我走出前幾節課的時候，我真的很驚訝。

I think I might be able, like, I think this proves to myself, no one else, just to myself that I might be able to just work at this.

我想我也許可以，就像，我想這是向我自己證明，不是向其他人，只是向我自己證明，我也許可以就這樣努力。

And then my friends and family started supporting me when I was like, I was still shy about it.

然後，我的朋友和家人開始支持我，那時我還很害羞。

I was like, I wrote this song with a few people and they'd be like, Rosie, you should build this up.

我當時想，我和幾個人一起寫了這首歌，他們會說："羅西，你應該把它寫出來。

And I doubted myself even still.

我甚至仍然懷疑自己。

But they were like, just do it.

但他們說，就這麼做吧。

Just go at it.

就這麼幹吧。

Just go back to LA.

回洛杉磯去吧

Just fly back.

飛回來吧

Book the hotel.

預訂酒店

Get an Airbnb.

找一家 Airbnb。

Just go and do it.

去做就是了。

And I did it and I stuck to it for a few months.

我做到了，而且堅持了幾個月。

And then a few months led to like, like two months, led to three months, four, five.

幾個月後，又過了兩個月、三個月、四個月、五個月。

And then in the middle of it, I found a label and I made sure I made decisions the way I felt like it was right.

然後在這中間，我找到了一個標籤，我確保我做決定的方式我覺得是正確的。

And then here I am today.

然後就有了今天的我。

Congratulations.

祝賀你

Thank you.

謝謝。

I mean, we can't take it for granted that just because you're in a successful collaborative experience with your friends and you have had enormous success.

我的意思是，我們不能想當然地認為，僅僅因為你和你的朋友有成功的合作經歷，你就取得了巨大的成功。

I think we see that and we equate that to confidence, but you're right.

我認為我們看到了這一點，並將其等同於信心，但你說得對。

It's different when you've got to find your own voice and figure out also having a voice that you've got to be collaborative in a band, right?

當你必須找到自己的聲音，並想清楚在樂隊中也要有合作的聲音時，情況就不一樣了，對嗎？

You've got to figure out when do I turn my voice on and when do I turn it off or turn it down or be a part of the group?

你必須搞清楚，我什麼時候該開聲，什麼時候該關聲，什麼時候該小聲，什麼時候該融入集體？

And so did you, at what point in this process did you find a different power or a different feeling in your voice that you hadn't been able to really use for a long time, if at all?

那麼，在這個過程中，你是否發現自己的聲音中蘊含著一種不同的力量或不同的感覺，而這種力量或感覺你已經很久沒有真正使用過了？

I think at the very beginning, it was still a little hard because again, like I said, I was kind of pushing through confidence.

我覺得剛開始的時候，還是有點困難，因為就像我說的，我還是有點自信心不足。

I had people in the room who were like, they probably listen to good music all the time and record amazing musicians all the time.

我房間裡的人都說，他們可能一直在聽好音樂，一直在錄製了不起的音樂家的作品。

So I had a little bit of confidence to push through.

是以，我有一點信心堅持下去。

But then by the time it was like back-to-back sessions and I was building on songs that felt personal to me and when I started expressing these things and creating within that world, I think I started pushing through.

但當我開始表達這些東西，並在那個世界裡進行創作時，我想我開始突破自己了。

And I mean, I can't pinpoint what song because there's also a lot of songs that I've dropped.

我的意思是，我不能確定是哪首歌，因為也有很多歌我都放棄了。

I think of No. 1 Girl as a pretty big turning point vocally, definitely.

我認為 "No. 1 Girl "絕對是聲樂上的一個重要轉捩點。

It's one of those.

這是其中之一。

Emotionally too, though.

但在情感上也是如此。

Emotionally too.

情感上也是如此。

That was the day we wrote that song, the day after I went to this event.

那是我們寫這首歌的第二天，也就是我去參加這個活動的第二天。

I'd been to so many glamorous events and I felt so grateful that I'm at these events, but I didn't feel fulfilled.

我參加過很多華麗的活動，我很感激自己能參加這些活動，但我並沒有感到充實。

I felt like I was chasing after something.

我感覺自己在追趕什麼東西。

What am I chasing after?

我在追逐什麼？