Name: 喬爾-彼得-維特金客觀之眼》（官方 30 分鐘免費預覽） (Joel-Peter Witkin: An Objective Eye (OFFICIAL 30 MINUTE FREE PREVIEW))
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In Mexico once, there was this Mexico City and this forensic hospital I was working in several times.

有一次，我在墨西哥城的一家法醫醫院工作了好幾次。

情態副詞

There was this magnificently beautiful woman, and she was on a slab, stripped of her clothes, ready for an autopsy.

有一位美麗動人的女人，她被放在一塊石板上，身上的衣服被剝光，準備接受屍檢。

I could smell her hair, the shampoo and the hair and whatever.

我能聞到她頭髮的味道，洗髮水的味道，頭髮的味道什麼的。

我的意思是，家人在外面哭泣。

是以，我的意思是，這將是一種犯罪。

There's two times in life where you're totally innocent, before birth and at death.

人的一生有兩次是完全無辜的，一次是出生前，一次是死亡時。

Once upon a time, Judeo-Christian faith and lifestyle were at the heart of Western art and culture.

曾經，猶太基督教信仰和生活方式是西方藝術和文化的核心。

It has been said that the passion and reverence of the Renaissance painters, for example, was so strong that their work had the power to convert those who viewed it.

例如，有人說文藝復興時期畫家的激情和崇敬之情是如此強烈，以至於他們的作品具有讓觀賞者皈依的力量。

Today, artists in America are insisting they have the right to show obscenity and even blasphemy in art, and even use tax dollars to pay for it.

如今，美國的藝術家們堅持認為他們有權在藝術作品中表現淫穢甚至褻瀆神靈的內容，甚至用稅款來支付。

But when it comes to perversion and blasphemy, artists Robert Mapplethorpe and Andre Serrano have nothing on photographer Joel Peter Wittgen.

但說到變態和褻瀆，藝術家羅伯特-梅普爾索普（Robert Mapplethorpe）和安德烈-塞拉諾（Andre Serrano）都比不上攝影師喬爾-彼得-維特根（Joel Peter Wittgen）。

Wittgen's critically acclaimed photographs have appeared in the best galleries and museums.

維特根的攝影作品曾在最好的畫廊和博物館展出，廣受好評。

Obsessed with religious symbols and specializing in portraits of human freaks, Wittgen's book, called Gods of Heaven and Earth, includes a written appeal for models who might fit his so-called artistic requirements.

維特根痴迷於宗教符號，擅長拍攝怪人肖像，在這本名為《天地諸神》的書中，他以書面形式呼籲模特符合他所謂的藝術要求。

He calls for erotic contortionists, boot, corset, and bondage fetishists, all manner of extreme visual perversions, anyone bearing the wounds of Christ, anyone claiming to be

他呼籲色情扭曲者、靴子、緊身胸衣和捆綁癖者、各種極端的視覺變態者、任何帶著基督傷痕的人、任何聲稱自己是

He's a photographer, born in Brooklyn, an identical twin, an artist, a visionary, a theatrical inventor, someone with an enormous compassion for human weakness.

他是一位攝影師，出生於布魯克林，是一對同卵雙胞胎，一位藝術家，一位有遠見的人，一位戲劇發明家，對人類的弱點有著極大的同情心。

This is someone who's a spiritual reformer, and who's trying to, when you look at a picture of his, get you to look deeply inside yourself, and you don't escape.

他是一位精神改革者，當你看到他的照片時，他試圖讓你深入審視自己的內心，而你卻無法逃脫。

And the ones who do escape, escape by sort of brushing off their clothes and say, get me out of here.

而那些逃跑的人，則是拂袖而去，然後說，帶我離開這裡。

我不知道，這傢伙是個食屍鬼。

The hard part is to stay with the pictures.

而這樣做的人也會得到豐厚的回報。

I make photographs worthy of the human spirit.

我拍攝的照片無愧於人類精神。

To understand my work, the viewer agrees to enter a world of belief and wonder, of time and timelessness, of hope and fear, in order to confront the heights and depths which form our lives.

要理解我的作品，觀眾必須同意進入一個充滿信念與驚奇、時間與永恆、希望與恐懼的世界，以面對構成我們生命的高度和深度。

My life is basically the way I live it, the way I work it.

我的生活基本上就是我的生活方式和工作方式。

In my work, I create the best solution, the best circumstances, out of things, situations that may be very strange or unsavory.

在我的作品中，我從一些可能非常奇怪或不光彩的事情、情況中創造出最佳的解決方案、最佳的環境。

But I really want to bring light into that kind of darkness and confusion.

但我真的想為那種黑暗和困惑帶來光明。

I think the fact that Joel has described death or a used corpse, for people it can be, they don't understand his work, because in fact, for Joel, death is part of life.

我認為，喬爾描述死亡或一具用過的屍體，對人們來說可能是不理解他的作品，因為事實上，對喬爾來說，死亡是生命的一部分。

It's true that in our society, death has been more or less forgotten by a human being, and we want to avoid it.

誠然，在我們的社會中，死亡已或多或少地被人類遺忘，我們希望避免死亡。

When you see his picture, there's lots of humor, but also a very dark side of life, which is death.

當你看到他的照片時，你會發現其中有很多幽默，但也有生命中非常陰暗的一面，那就是死亡。

And when you see him, he's very generous in everything he shows.

當你看到他時，他所表現出的一切都非常慷慨。

The way he dresses, the way he smiles, the way he looks at life, it's very positive.

他的穿著打扮，他的笑容，他看待生活的方式，都非常積極向上。

He wants to find the images that touch that discovery of the truth that isn't always a pleasant one.

他希望找到那些能觸動人們發現真相的畫面，而真相的發現並不總是令人愉快的。

My life experience in growing has been part of my work and my life, so my life and my work are inseparable.

我在成長中的生活經歷是我工作和生活的一部分，是以我的生活和工作是密不可分的。

It is a privilege and a great responsibility to devote your life to art.

為藝術獻身是一種殊榮，也是一種重大責任。

My vocation is to create totally personal and unique art, which is the transformation of my vision into photographs.

我的天職是創造完全個人化的獨特藝術，也就是將我的構想轉化為照片。

When we get ready, and this should go pretty fast, when your outfit is on, that means that the shirt, the pants, the harness below that, of course, and the coat, we just have to stitch the sideboards on.

當我們準備就緒時，這個過程應該很快，當你的衣服穿好後，這意味著襯衫、褲子、下面的揹帶，當然還有外套，我們只需要把側板縫上就可以了。

And then, we're going to hit the outfit and yourself a little bit with dirt, this theatrical dirt stuff.

然後，我們要給這身行頭和你自己來點泥土，這種戲劇性的泥土。

I'd been visiting the Frankel Gallery for years, and one day, one of the people in the gallery said to me, take a look at these images.

有一天，畫廊裡的一個人對我說，看看這些圖片。

And so he started pulling out images of Joel.

於是，他開始拿出喬爾的照片。

I was somewhat shocked, but I continued looking.

我有些震驚，但還是繼續尋找。

And when I left the gallery, I kept thinking about the images that I'd seen.

當我離開畫廊時，我一直在想我所看到的畫面。

And at that point, I was collecting some artwork, but I started collecting his photography from that point on.

當時，我正在收集一些藝術品，但從那時起，我開始收集他的攝影作品。

I first saw his work in 1985 at the Gray Gallery at NYU.

我第一次看到他的作品是 1985 年在紐約大學的格雷畫廊。

And I walked in there, and I saw The Kiss.

This is probably my most famous photograph, because it was done in 82, and it basically made my reputation.

這可能是我最有名的照片，因為它是在 82 年拍攝的，它基本上讓我聲名鵲起。

He had permission from the University of New Mexico Medical School to photograph this piece of cadaver, and he picked it up, and it fell into two pieces.

他得到了新墨西哥大學醫學院的許可，可以拍攝這塊屍體，他拿起屍體一看，屍體摔成了兩塊。

So he just put the two together in a kiss.

於是，他就把兩個人放在一起親吻。

It was as if they were identical twins that had met again.

他們彷彿是同卵雙胞胎，再次相遇。

What happened is that I waited about a year to get a specimen, and I get a phone call saying that they have something for me, and I didn't know what it is.

事情是這樣的，我等了大約一年才拿到標本，然後我接到一個電話，說他們有東西要給我，但我不知道是什麼。

I can only use it 24 hours, like kind of a XX book.

我只能使用 24 小時，就像一本 XX 書。

I went there, had a very good breakfast before I left, because I knew I was going to work for a long, long time and try to basically resolve an image with whatever was in the box.

我去了那裡，在離開之前吃了一頓非常豐盛的早餐，因為我知道我要工作很久很久，並嘗試用盒子裡的任何東西來解決影像問題。

I took it to my studio at the university, and I worked about 12 hours or so on something called The History of Spain.

我把它帶到我在大學的工作室，花了大約 12 個小時寫了一本叫《西班牙歷史》的書。

I got some sleep, and I got up, and I said, well, it didn't work, so I guess I'll just pack it up.

我睡了一覺，起來後我說，好吧，沒成功，我想我還是收拾一下吧。

But I took the two heads, pieces of the head that was cut in half before I got it.

但我拿走了兩個頭，還有在我拿到它之前被切成兩半的頭的碎片。

I just talked to a person yesterday, a collector, who says that when I photographed the kiss, that supposedly I cut the head in half.

我昨天剛和一個收藏家聊過，他說當我拍下這個吻時，據說我把頭切成了兩半。

People who do that are in the medical profession, and ethically, I can't do that.

這樣做的人從事的是醫療行業，從道德上講，我不能這樣做。

They were wrapped in this gauze permeated with formalin.

他們被包裹在這種滲透了福爾馬林的紗布中。

And when I did that, put them together to wrap it up, the lips kissed, and I said, that is the elegant solution to this problem.

當我這樣做時，把它們放在一起包起來，嘴脣親了一下，我說，這就是解決這個問題的優雅辦法。

And of course, as soon as the medical school saw what he had done, they ruled him out.

當然，醫學院一看到他的所作所為，就把他排除在外了。

I was on food stamps, and I worked in a restaurant.

我拿著食品券，在一家餐館打工。

I mean, there's some architectural photographers, and commercial photographers are so terrible.

我是說，有些建築攝影師和商業攝影師都很糟糕。

I could pass by their studios, and there would be a stench, an aesthetic stench, I could feel.

我路過他們的工作室時，會感覺到一股惡臭，一種美學上的惡臭。

And I got this job as a busboy, but I loved restaurant work.

我找到了一份打雜的工作，但我喜歡餐館的工作。

And I eventually became a waiter, then the head waiter.

我最終成了一名服務員，後來又成了領班。

Then I would hire and fire people and train them.

然後，我會僱用和解僱員工，並對他們進行培訓。

And all along, I would do my work in the daytime at the university, had a dog room.

一直以來，我都是白天在大學裡工作，有一個狗房間。

And so I'd work, make photographs, and print, and then go to work at night in the restaurant.

我就這樣工作、拍照、印刷，然後晚上去餐廳上班。

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